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Celeb News: Dr. Luke breaks silence: "I didn't rape Kesha"
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Originally posted by Hitori
He's right. Let the court be the judge! We don't know all the facts!
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I think Dr Luke will do the polygraph test. There's no reason not too.
Most accused men don't do it because their alleged victims were at some point consenting sexual partners, and there's worry the polygraph won't differentiate consenting sex from rape.
But Dr Luke says he's never had sex with Kesha, consenting or otherwise, so there's no reason not to.
Statistically all men that have passed polygraph tests over rape allegations are cleared of the crime. Worth reading up online.
Of course, fail the test and you're screwed.
Alleged rape victims aren't allowed to be polygraphed in America, just if you wondered.
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Originally posted by velocity
how are both of those things comparable?
and also, it's hardly ever accepted. most women are accused of lying or it being their own fault, that's the whole reason why so many women are scared to speak up in the first place. this is the first time I've seen so many people actually LISTENING to something someone has to say about rape.
and the whole base of your argument is so disgusting and misogynistic that it makes me want to puke. the thing about rape is that it rarely happens with an audience around. so if the victim is threatened and scared and doesn't get a rape kit done immediately, then they must be lying because they has no proof right?
if i meet you in a dark alley and i beat you black and blue, hurt you, steal stuff from you and you wait for your wounds to heal before reporting me, did it actually happen? you must be lying right? either way you have no proof, so who cares right? nvm that i hurt you really badly and that you've suffered.
this would be the same thing. please get a grip.
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Someone who gets it
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Originally posted by Dark Matter
I think Dr Luke will do the polygraph test. There's no reason not too.
Most accused men don't do it because their alleged victims were at some point consenting sexual partners, and there's worry the polygraph won't differentiate consenting sex from rape.
But Dr Luke says he's never had sex with Kesha, consenting or otherwise, so there's no reason not to.
Statistically all men that have passed polygraph tests over rape allegations are cleared of the crime. Worth reading up online.
Of course, fail the test and you're screwed.
Alleged rape victims aren't allowed to be polygraphed in America, just if you wondered.
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Well of course he was gonna say that, it's not like he would've say "I've had sex with Kesha" on Twitter. There's no evidence of course and at the end of the day, only Kesha and Luke know what happened.
Personally, I choose to believe Kesha, because I can't imagine that she would lie on something as serious as this and ruin Luke's reputation just to get out of her contract. I just can't. It doesn't make any sense. Having said that, it's her version and maybe she got it twisted I don't know. Luke surely have another version of the alleged incidents.
Tbh, I thought his initial defense would've been "I didn't rape Kesha because she and I had a consensual sexual relationship" but instead, he denied EVERYTHING. Still, with all those allégations that he says are "lies", he doesn't want to let her go. Something doesn't fit right, don't you think?
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Originally posted by YouBetterPopBitch
Well of course he was gonna say that, it's not like he would've say "I've had sex with Kesha" on Twitter. There's no evidence of course and at the end of the day, only Kesha and Luke know what happened.
Personally, I choose to believe Kesha, because I can't imagine that she would lie on something as serious as this and ruin Luke's reputation just to get out of her contract. I just can't. It doesn't make any sense. Having said that, it's her version and maybe she got it twisted I don't know. Luke surely have another version of the alleged incidents.
Tbh, I thought his initial defense would've been "I didn't rape Kesha because she and I had a consensual sexual relationship" but instead, he denied EVERYTHING. Still, with all those allégations that he says are "lies", he doesn't want to let her go. Something doesn't fit right, don't you think?
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The main reason to lean towards Dr Luke being innocent is the outright denial of any sexual relationship. It means he can ultimately polygraph himself out of it, for the reasons I mentioned.
If Dr Luke was guilty, he would have said it was consensual.
He doesn't want to let her go because she hasn't recouped her development costs, and she can't afford to buy out her agreement either.
If I spent $20M developing you, and you agreed to do 8 albums to recoup those initial costs, and then you ask to leave after only making back $5M, I'd tell you you're not going anywhere as well.
Gotta remember, Kesha had very little talent. Dr Luke paid for every single workshop under the sun to get her a decent level with a particular sound.
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It's so messy how some people are suddenly supporting this clown he can put all the pretty words he wants on Twitter, but I remain unconvinced that he's innocent
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mess, did ke$has lawyer really represent chris brown...
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Originally posted by Dark Matter
The main reason to lean towards Dr Luke being innocent is the outright denial of any sexual relationship. It means he can ultimately polygraph himself out of it, for the reasons I mentioned.
If Dr Luke was guilty, he would have said it was consensual.
He doesn't want to let her go because she hasn't recouped her development costs, and she can't afford to buy out her agreement either.
If I spent $20M developing you, and you agreed to do 8 albums to recoup those initial costs, and then you ask to leave after only making back $5M, I'd tell you you're not going anywhere as well.
Gotta remember, Kesha had very little talent. Dr Luke paid for every single workshop under the sun to get her a decent level with a particular sound.
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You're literally the most delusional on here with a twisted level of hate towards Kesha that you can't even tell the truth when calm.
Luke said that Kesha was the one that introduced him to the sound that Tik Tok had, and Kesha has incredible talent. Her demo's pre 2009 when reconnected with Luke are what based Luke's electropop sound
Go listen to her ealier demo's. All electropop, synth based.
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"A lot of people have asked me, about her first record, 'How did you come up with the new sound? Your sound evolved!' " It was a new approach born out of necessity. "That was Ke$ha. She calls the shots, and she said, 'I don't want any guitars on my record.' I managed to sneak one or two in there . . . But you have to evolve. Music is changing all the time."
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Kesha was ahead of the pack, and Luke didn't use her because Rock Pop was in.
Tracks like Disgusting, C U Next Tuesday, Stephen, Backstabber were all pre-Luke. And that's exactly her sound on Animal.
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Originally posted by Dark Matter
The main reason to lean towards Dr Luke being innocent is the outright denial of any sexual relationship. It means he can ultimately polygraph himself out of it, for the reasons I mentioned.
If Dr Luke was guilty, he would have said it was consensual.
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Also this is grasping on to straws.
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There was no way he would publicly say that he raped/abused her if he did. so of course he's going to flat out deny it.
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I really don't know who to believe tbh.
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I really hope the case is settled before it goes to court. it will be better for both parties, so much confidential material will be leaked. kesha should be freed -- she does not have a strong legal case, but the publicity is working well for her.
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There's so much evidence against her
the fact that people are ignoring that is disturbing tbh
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Originally posted by KliFF
There's so much evidence against her
the fact that people are ignoring that is disturbing tbh
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Sorry, do you mind pointing out the evidence against her? The fact that Dr. Luke and his team are denying it? The fact that there is 'no doctors certificate' proving she was raped? There is just as little evidence that she is lying then he is. The only difference is, other artists/people have come forward and expressed their dislike for Dr. Luke due to their own personal experiences with him. This post is the only thing thats disturbing tbh.
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Originally posted by KliFF
There's so much evidence against her
the fact that people are ignoring that is disturbing tbh
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Shame.
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