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					Originally posted by  Vin
					 
				 
				I agree with this, but I think the "shout out" works for some artists sometimes. Sometimes, the "shout out" flows with the song. It depends on how catchy the name of the producer is. I'd rather prefer the simpler approach in which the producer lays an instrument sound within the song. I'm not huge on Red One, but when the artist isn't yelling out his name in an idiotic fashion, I think it's real classy and cool that he always has that horn sound in the tracks that he produces for people. It's a very distinct sound, but not overwhelming.[/CENTER] 
			
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 The producer identifiers don't always bother me. I just wanted to be a little dramatic. 

 Like you, I definitely prefer when a producer chooses to incorporate a signature sound and opts out of the name dropping.
But yeah, I love (for example) Dr. Luke partly because he doesn't seek out excessive credit. Everyone wants a little success, and therefore I suppose it's to be expected that currently popular producers would want the same sort of notoriety of the artists they work with, but I think we have to commend people like Luke for willingly take a role behind the scenes.