[geo]

Honestly I want Australia to leave now they're setting up Asiavision. Them being in both contests would be a bit weird.

I also don't want Eurovision to be reduced to some pre-qualifying round.

Just keep Eurovision for full members of the EBU and other continents can set up their own contests if they want.

[KillingYourCareer]

Originally posted by KylieistBoi

As long as Australia is a part I am open to the idea of other countries participating. If a country outside Europe can participate so should the others.

Not countries that have nothing to do with Europe like the US or China, though. Australia is culturally similar to us, but those two... nah. I can see the US bringing some country song like Slovenia and flopping hard and China presenting an overproduced mess that's gonna stay in the semi anyway.

[ivi]

Sietse Baker the supervisor for ESC gave a interview to wiwibloggs sometimes this year and he said he could imagine the winner from Asiavision participating in ESC for example. So they are def open for other non-Europeans countries joining.

[KillingYourCareer]

Originally posted by ivi

Sietse Baker the supervisor for ESC gave a interview to wiwibloggs sometimes this year and he said he could imagine the winner from Asiavision participating in ESC for example. So they are def open for other non-Europeans countries joining.

They should fire all those money-hungry people and leave the organization of the whole thing to the most unbiased country, Hungary.

[Thomasuxx]

I don't want other countries to join. It's still Eurovision.

Australia's participation was cute but that's enough.

[Thomasuxx]

13 - 12

1. Jamala - 1944 (UKR) VS. Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes (SWE)
2. Dami Im - Sound of Silence (AUS) VS. Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices (RUS)
3. Sergey Lazarev - You are the only one (RUS) VS. Il Volo - Grande Amore (ITA)
4. Poli Genova - If Love was a Crime (BUL) VS. Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside (BLG)
5. Frans - If I were sorry (SWE) VS. Guy Sebastian - Tonight again (AUS)
6. Amir - J'ai cherché (FRA) VS. Aminata - Love injected (LAT)
7. Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave (ARM) VS. Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye to yesterday (EST)
8. Michal Szpak - Color of your life (POL) VS. Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A monster like me (NOR)
9. Donny Montell - I've been waiting for this night (LIT) VS. Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy (ISR)
10. Laura Tesoro - What's the pressure (BLG) VS. Bojana Stamenov - Beauty never lies (SRB)
11. Douwe Bob - Slow Down (NTH) VS. Nina Sublatti - Warrior (GEO)
12. Ira Losco - Walk on Water (MLT) VS. Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf (AZB)
13. ZOË - Loin d'ici (AUT) VS. Knez - Adio (MNG)
14. Hovi Star - Made of Stars (ISR) VS. Maraaya - Here for you (SLO)
15. Justs - Heartbeat (LAT) VS. Voltaj - De la capăt (ROM)
16. Francesca Michielin - No degree of Separation (ITA) VS. Genealogy - Face the Shadow (ARM)
17. Samra - Miracle (AZB) VS. Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive (ALB)
18. ZAA Sanja Vučić - Goodbye (Shelter) (SRB) VS. Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time(LIT)
19. Freddie - Pioneer (HUN) VS. Maria Elena Kyriakou - One last breath (GRE)
20. Nika Ko*scharow & Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold (GEO) VS. Boggie - Wars for nothing (HUN)
21. Minus One - Alter Ego (CYP) VS. Edurne - Amanecer (SPA)
22. Barei - Say Yay! (SPA) VS. John Karayiannis - One thing I should have done (CYP)
23. Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse (CRO) VS. Monika Kuszyńska - In the name of love (POL)
24. Joe & Jake - You're not alone (UK) VS. Electro Velvet - Still in love with you (UK)
(-> They're both horrible)
25. Gabriela Gunčí*ková - I Stand VS. Lisa Angell - N’oubliez pas (FRA)
26. Jamie Lee Kriewitz - Ghost (GER) VS. The Makemakes - I am yours (AUT) / Ann Sophie - Black Smoke (GER)

[getinthezone]

We don't need more countries... there's already 16 countries that didnt even make it to the final this year

[KillingYourCareer]

1. Jamala - 1944 (UKR) VS. Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes (SWE)
2. Dami Im - Sound of Silence (AUS) VS. Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices (RUS)
3. Sergey Lazarev - You are the only one (RUS) VS. Il Volo - Grande Amore (ITA)
4. Poli Genova - If Love was a Crime (BUL) VS. Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside (BLG)
5. Frans - If I were sorry (SWE) VS. Guy Sebastian - Tonight again (AUS)
6. Amir - J'ai cherché (FRA) VS. Aminata - Love injected (LAT)
7. Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave (ARM) VS. Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye to yesterday (EST)
8. Michal Szpak - Color of your life (POL) VS. Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A monster like me (NOR)
9. Donny Montell - I've been waiting for this night (LIT) VS. Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy (ISR)
10. Laura Tesoro - What's the pressure (BLG) VS. Bojana Stamenov - Beauty never lies (SRB)
11. Douwe Bob - Slow Down (NTH) VS. Nina Sublatti - Warrior (GEO)
12. Ira Losco - Walk on Water (MLT) VS. Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf (AZB)
13. ZOË - Loin d'ici (AUT) VS. Knez - Adio (MNG)
14. Hovi Star - Made of Stars (ISR) VS. Maraaya - Here for you (SLO)
15. Justs - Heartbeat (LAT) VS. Voltaj - De la capăt (ROM)
16. Francesca Michielin - No degree of Separation (ITA) VS. Genealogy - Face the Shadow (ARM)
17. Samra - Miracle (AZB) VS. Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive (ALB)
18. ZAA Sanja Vučić - Goodbye (Shelter) (SRB) VS. Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time(LIT)
19. Freddie - Pioneer (HUN) VS. Maria Elena Kyriakou - One last breath (GRE)
20. Nika Ko*scharow & Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold (GEO) VS. Boggie - Wars for nothing (HUN)
21. Minus One - Alter Ego (CYP) VS. Edurne - Amanecer (SPA)
22. Barei - Say Yay! (SPA) VS. John Karayiannis - One thing I should have done (CYP)
23. Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse (CRO) VS. Monika Kuszyńska - In the name of love (POL)
24. Joe & Jake - You're not alone (UK) VS. Electro Velvet - Still in love with you (UK)
25. Gabriela Gunčí*ková - I Stand VS. Lisa Angell - N’oubliez pas (FRA)
26. Jamie Lee Kriewitz - Ghost (GER) VS. The Makemakes - I am yours (AUT) / Ann Sophie - Black Smoke (GER)

2016 >>>
Even tho no song from this year could even come close to A Million Voices of course.

[ivi]

Originally posted by getinthezone

We don't need more countries... there's already 16 countries that didnt even make it to the final this year

i don't think they want more countries but to have a stable ca. 40 countries. romania is already out, bih seems to be out too and other countries could be in danger.....

[ivi]

1. Jamala - 1944 (UKR) VS. Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes (SWE)
2. Dami Im - Sound of Silence (AUS) VS. Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices (RUS)
3. Sergey Lazarev - You are the only one (RUS) VS. Il Volo - Grande Amore (ITA)
4. Poli Genova - If Love was a Crime (BUL) VS. Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside (BLG)
5. Frans - If I were sorry (SWE)VS. Guy Sebastian - Tonight again (AUS)
6. Amir - J'ai cherché (FRA) VS. Aminata - Love injected (LAT)
7. Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave (ARM) VS. Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye to yesterday (EST)
8. Michal Szpak - Color of your life (POL) VS. Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A monster like me (NOR)
9. Donny Montell - I've been waiting for this night (LIT) VS. Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy (ISR)
10. Laura Tesoro - What's the pressure (BLG) VS. Bojana Stamenov - Beauty never lies (SRB)
11. Douwe Bob - Slow Down (NTH) VS. Nina Sublatti - Warrior (GEO)
12. Ira Losco - Walk on Water (MLT) VS. Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf (AZB)
13. ZOË - Loin d'ici (AUT) VS. Knez - Adio (MNG)
14. Hovi Star - Made of Stars (ISR) VS. Maraaya - Here for you (SLO)
15. Justs - Heartbeat (LAT) VS. Voltaj - De la capăt (ROM)
16. Francesca Michielin - No degree of Separation (ITA) VS. Genealogy - Face the Shadow (ARM)
17. Samra - Miracle (AZB) VS. Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive (ALB)
18. ZAA Sanja Vučić - Goodbye (Shelter) (SRB) VS. Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time(LIT)
19. Freddie - Pioneer (HUN) VS. Maria Elena Kyriakou - One last breath (GRE)
20. Nika Ko*scharow & Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold (GEO) VS. Boggie - Wars for nothing (HUN)
21. Minus One - Alter Ego (CYP) VS. Edurne - Amanecer (SPA)
22. Barei - Say Yay! (SPA) VS. John Karayiannis - One thing I should have done (CYP)
23. Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse (CRO) VS. Monika Kuszyńska - In the name of love (POL)
24. Joe & Jake - You're not alone (UK) VS. Electro Velvet - Still in love with you (UK)
25. Gabriela Gunčí*ková - I Stand VS. Lisa Angell - N’oubliez pas (FRA)
26. Jamie Lee Kriewitz - Ghost (GER) VS. The Makemakes - I am yours (AUT) / Ann Sophie - Black Smoke (GER)

14 2016, 12 2015 hmmm

but no. 2 and 4 were really hard to decide

[KillingYourCareer]

Originally posted by ivi

i don't think they want more countries but to have a stable ca. 40 countries. romania is already out, bih seems to be out too and other countries could be in danger.....

How bout they help the endangered countries rather than inviting random countries from around the world? Those money hungry bishes.

[Komet blu]

14- 2015 >>>> 11-2016

1. Jamala - 1944 (UKR) VS. Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes (SWE)
2. Dami Im - Sound of Silence (AUS) VS. Polina Gagarina - A Million Voices (RUS)
3. Sergey Lazarev - You are the only one (RUS) VS. Il Volo - Grande Amore (ITA)
4. Poli Genova - If Love was a Crime (BUL) VS. Loïc Nottet - Rhythm Inside (BLG)
5. Frans - If I were sorry (SWE) VS. Guy Sebastian - Tonight again (AUS)
6. Amir - J'ai cherché (FRA) VS. Aminata - Love injected (LAT)
7. Iveta Mukuchyan - LoveWave (ARM) VS. Elina Born & Stig Rästa - Goodbye to yesterday (EST)
8. Michal Szpak - Color of your life (POL) VS. [B]Mørland & Debrah Scarlett - A monster like me (NOR) /both trash
9. Donny Montell - I've been waiting for this night (LIT) VS. Nadav Guedj - Golden Boy (ISR)
10. Laura Tesoro - What's the pressure (BLG) VS. Bojana Stamenov - Beauty never lies (SRB)
11. Douwe Bob - Slow Down (NTH) VS. Nina Sublatti - Warrior (GEO) both good
12. Ira Losco - Walk on Water (MLT) VS. Elnur Huseynov - Hour of the Wolf (AZB)
13. ZOË - Loin d'ici (AUT) VS. Knez - Adio (MNG)
14. Hovi Star - Made of Stars (ISR) VS. Maraaya - Here for you (SLO)
15. Justs - Heartbeat (LAT) VS. Voltaj - De la capăt (ROM)
16. Francesca Michielin - No degree of Separation (ITA) VS. Genealogy - Face the Shadow (ARM)
17. Samra - Miracle (AZB) VS. Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive (ALB)
18. ZAA Sanja Vučić - Goodbye (Shelter) (SRB) VS. Monika Linkytė & Vaidas Baumila - This Time(LIT)
19. Freddie - Pioneer (HUN) VS. Maria Elena Kyriakou - One last breath (GRE)
20. Nika Ko*scharow & Young Georgian Lolitaz - Midnight Gold (GEO) VS. Boggie - Wars for nothing (HUN)
21. Minus One - Alter Ego (CYP) VS. Edurne - Amanecer (SPA)
22. Barei - Say Yay! (SPA) VS. John Karayiannis - One thing I should have done (CYP)
23. Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse (CRO) VS. Monika Kuszyńska - In the name of love (POL)
24. Joe & Jake - You're not alone (UK) VS. Electro Velvet - Still in love with you (UK) /both trash
25. Gabriela Gunčí*ková - I Stand VS. Lisa Angell - N’oubliez pas (FRA)
26. Jamie Lee Kriewitz - Ghost (GER) VS. The Makemakes - I am yours (AUT) / Ann Sophie - Black Smoke (GER)

[ivi]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

How bout they help the endangered countries rather than inviting random countries from around the world? Those money hungry bishes.

romania didn't pay for over 10 years, you can't say they didn't try to help them they were very patient.

but yeah their focus should be in lowering the costs and bringing back countries (like turkey for example).

i've also heard that croatia for example barely had to pay anything so they could just return.

[seanoh]

I'm pretty sure NBC bought the rights to AmericaVision years ago in the hopes of doing their own version of Eurovision, but they never did anything with it. I don't want the US to join either

[LuLuDrops]

EBU expanded Bosnia's deadline to repay the debt

[seanoh]

I wonder if Albania will send Era Istrefi

[ivi]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

EBU expanded Bosnia's deadline to repay the debt

yay. i hope they push them out of the contest in late april 2017

i guess they love the drama(s)

[KillingYourCareer]

What kind of masterpieces 1994 gave us. I can't believe that forgettable and boring trash from Ireland won, and just because the real winner Edyta Górniak sang half of her song in English and the juries decided to sabotage her

[Scorpio]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

I really don't want it (and the US) either. The only ones I'd like to see debut are Liechtenstein, Kosovo (they're in for it but EBU won't let them ), Vatican City, Lebanon and Kazakhstan. The rest can just watch.

Not Vatican City dskjhdfgjfd.

[Yomaku]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

What kind of masterpieces 1994 gave us. I can't believe that forgettable and boring trash from Ireland won, and just because the real winner Edyta Górniak sang half of her song in English and the juries decided to sabotage her

Best Russian song (and it's a tough competition).