[T.C]

Originally posted by Timber

I dunno if I can. I'm not familiar with her music and I was months old in 1993.

You're older than me so that's no excuse

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by kingmichael

Janet was at her peak from 1986 to 2001,maybe 2004 but once the hype from her wardrobe malfunction died. Beyond has been at her peak from 1997 to present day. Janet only lasted for about 15 years before she fell off. Beyond been at her peak for 17 years and is still going strong with no sign of slowing down.

But Janet did **** before 1986 - she was born into show business. . That's at least 28 years before the Superbowl.

[T.C]

Janet was popular for 31 years

[MrPiggyMoka]

Originally posted by Ascension

K, I am one of the first to admit that Janet's music is more influential, but this lie right here needs to stop.

Bey is probably one of the only one of her generation to introduce something truly new with her rhythmic approach to vocals. Nobody was delivering mid and uptempos in that manner. Janet was absolutely a trailblazer in introducing new sounds, merging genres and choreo, but Bey's area of innovation was/is in her vocals -- her deliveries and arrangements. No, Bey didn't reinvent the wheel with visuals and image changes, but that's never been her area of concentration, anyhow.

And from a music/sound standpoint, the reason Bey was so successful was because she went completely left of radio and moved away from the radio status quo at the time when she released Crazy in Love and then with subsequent albums doing things singers just didn't do like using percussion only hip hop beats with no chords -- way outside of the comfort zone of virtually any singer. Just "following suit" couldn't be any further from the reality of what she was doing at that time.

For a fan base like Janet's that I KNOW understands how annoying it is to go back and forth with people determined to either play or just remain ignorant and overlook major accomplishments and contributions of your fave, a good number of y'all love to do the same with Bey.

[MrPiggyMoka]

Originally posted by tcweh

Janet was popular for 31 years

Janet was popular before she was even born When Madonna was in her diapers, janet was ******** all over her

[lonnie]

Janet has more cultural impact than Beyonce and it's pretty clear to anyone, I'm surprised this argument got this far

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

I can't tell if this thread has descended into parody yet.

Anyway, the answer is no - but just about. At the moment, she's still got some kind of advantage on the cultural barometer over Beyoncé because: 1. She influenced Beyoncé amongst others, and 2. Her name, longevity and classic records.

However, it's pretty clear to me since the reaction to Beyoncé's album and Superbowl performance last year that her cultural stock is rising rapidly, while Janet's is lessening every year since the Superbowl - though it does look like people are getting over that, from what I gathered of the largely sympathetic and supportive ''10 Years Later...'' articles written earlier this year.

So I don't know, to be honest. Hopefully Janet will do something to change some minds about her - it doesn't particularly have to be mass commercial success again (she's done with that) but some kind of legacy-affirming project that'll get people on her side again and promote her as a ''Legend''.

[beherebynow]

Janet has influenced a lot of current singers
So my answer is no.

[Lucyyyyyyyyy]

Not at all

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Originally posted by PULSE.

Anyone outside of an urban/hood world knows nothing about some damn Poetic Justice. I can't at iconic

Look at you racistly diminishing the opinions and culture of your own people AGAIN.

[Mrs. Aaron Paul]

cultural impact yes
but not musical impact

[Ressti]

Why do y'all downplay Beyoncé's contributions to music? They're so obvious. Just compare 2002 to 2004 in pop and R&B Actually Destiny's Child was influential too.

[dcode78]

Hell no. And she never will.

Some of you are living in the now with no prior history to Janet's cultural relevance. If you put aside non musical relevance, then you would definitely have your answer.

I applaud the objective Bey stans who somewhat understand Janet's cultural relevance and will try to justify why Beyonce is important as well. But she pales in comparison to Janet.

As said before, they should not be compared. They are not peers. They are not on the same level.

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by dcode78

Hell no. And she never will.

Some of you are living in the now with no prior history to Janet's cultural relevance. If you put aside non musical relevance, then you would definitely have your answer.

I applaud the objective Bey stans who somewhat understand Janet's cultural relevance and will try to justify why Beyonce is important as well. But she pales in comparison to Janet.

As said before, they should not be compared. They are not peers. They are not on the same level.

[T-Swizz]

Originally posted by Ascension

K, I am one of the first to admit that Janet's music is more influential, but this lie right here needs to stop.

Bey is probably one of the only one of her generation to introduce something truly new with her rhythmic approach to vocals. Nobody was delivering mid and uptempos in that manner. Janet was absolutely a trailblazer in introducing new sounds, merging genres and choreo, but Bey's area of innovation was/is in her vocals -- her deliveries and arrangements. No, Bey didn't reinvent the wheel with visuals and image changes, but that's never been her area of concentration, anyhow.

And from a music/sound standpoint, the reason Bey was so successful was because she went completely left of radio and moved away from the radio status quo at the time when she released Crazy in Love and then with subsequent albums doing things singers just didn't do like using percussion only hip hop beats with no chords -- way outside of the comfort zone of virtually any singer. Just "following suit" couldn't be any further from the reality of what she was doing at that time.

For a fan base like Janet's that I KNOW understands how annoying it is to go back and forth with people determined to either play or just remain ignorant and overlook major accomplishments and contributions of your fave, a good number of y'all love to do the same with Bey.

[T.C]

Originally posted by Ressti

Why do y'all downplay Beyoncé's contributions to music? They're so obvious. Just compare 2002 to 2004 in pop and R&B Actually Destiny's Child was influential too.

Lets not act like the Hive is innocent, a few pages back someone said Bey was a legend while Janet was only an icon

[dcode78]

Originally posted by Buyonce1814

[dcode78]

Yeah, there were some ignorant stuff that was said earlier back in this thread.

Further proves the delusion of the misinformed.

[Buyonce1814]

Originally posted by dcode78

I cried when bijonse said "janet is the reason youtube (and thus the only receipts some of yall can use exist)"

[T-Swizz]

Originally posted by tcweh

Lets not act like the Hive is innocent, a few pages back someone said Bey was a legend while Janet was only an icon

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