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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
Whitney didn't do anything besides follow Barbra and Aretha's blueprint
N lol at uptempo dance numbers. The 80s are full of them. IWDWS and HWIK are great songs but hardly original or a first.
I'm not even going to bother with Janet. You Janet fans live in your own world.
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You can't be this ignorant in 2016. Mr. Wonder already gave you the receipts that you couldn't even adequately reply to, so I won't even bother explaining Whitney's influence. Barbra and Whitney are not the same. Whitney infused Gospel with pop virtuoso. Barbra's music consisted of pop and Broadway balladry. Clearly not the same. And Whitney did not exactly follow Aretha's blueprint. She was influenced, but she used the template and created her own, similar to Beyoncé. Whitney brought her own style and approached singing in a way that was different from an Aretha. Aretha was much more gospel that Whitney and Whitney combined the two genres in a seamless way Aretha never did. After Whitney debuted, you had artists trying to sound like Whitney and producers writing songs in the similar style of Whitney's for artists. That's a blueprint. And yeah, you need not try to explain Janet, you couldn't even if you wanted to.
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
And Mariah has never rap sung anything in FULL vocal. Her whispering while copying the singing style of bone thugs & harmony over SOFT beats is not rap singing.
I'm still waiting on a link of any song where Mariah was original or innovative.
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Destiny's Child, nor Beyoncé were the first to rap sing over a beat. Janet, Mariah, Mary J. Blige and TLC were all doing that before her. If anything, she popularized it. Beyoncé is not musically innovative. Just accept it. Beyoncé merely takes what already exists within the landscape of music and puts her own into it. And there's nothing wrong with that. But she isn't original in that respect. Stop giving her more than she deserves.
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
Whitney and Janet didn't built anything.
Aretha, Diana and Tina built and paved the way. Stop the madness.
Y'all claim all this impact. Yet neither one can seem to have enough to be inducted into the hall of fame.
The real pioneers don't have that problem. Hell Aretha was the first woman inducted. That's true legacy and undeniable impact.
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The fact that you think a R&RHOF induction is the only indication an artist has had impact is just asinine, but not surprising judging by your senseless posts in this thread. If only pioneers are in the R&RHOF explain to me why Rosetta Tharpe, the pioneer of gospel and R&B music, whose sound not only was a precursor to Rock and Roll, but also a major influence on artists such as Little Richard, Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis hasn't been inducted? If only pioneers are in the Hall, why is neither Diana Ross or Tina Turner in the Hall as solo artists? They did pave the way for everyone right? You do yourself no favors by contradicting your uninformed statements. Next time, read a book on music history before you try come in here spewing ignorant statements.