[ChapelHooker]

Originally posted by swissman

I respect your opinion but if you're going to come with something at least have your facts straight and know what you're talking about. She says she's making "all these racks". I'm not sure what that means either but if you want to go with your way of thinking, let's assume that means money. She didn't say "more racks than you" or "the most racks" just "all these racks." That's firstly a fact, and secondly any grown woman should be earning her own money. That's what makes you grown. You have the freedom to do whatever you want because you're not relying on other people. It's not exclusive to Beyonce nor is it bragging about how much she makes.

Tell ha.

[Capital B]

Just listened to it with headphones on full volume...and all I have to say is YES YES YES YES. I literally cannot stop myself from dancing. All y'all who hate it have never sounded crazier...

[pbax]

Originally posted by swissman

I respect your opinion but if you're going to come with something at least have your facts straight and know what you're talking about. She says she's making "all these racks". I'm not sure what that means either but if you want to go with your way of thinking, let's assume that means money. She didn't say "more racks than you" or "the most racks" just "all these racks." That's firstly a fact, and secondly any grown woman should be earning her own money. That's what makes you grown. You have the freedom to do whatever you want because you're not relying on other people. It's not exclusive to Beyonce nor is it bragging about how much she makes.

So if I walked up to you in an everyday environment and started to brag about how much money I was making you wouldn't find that arrogant? And I know exactly what I'm talking about and the point I'm trying to make thanks.
I always thought Beyonce was classy but recently with "Bow Down" and now this I'm starting to think differently of her.

[QueenBLadyG]

swissman, you can't make sense out of nonsense. Just ignore the trolls. They are criticizing, just to criticize.

[pbax]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

swissman, you can't make sense out of nonsense. Just ignore the trolls. They are criticizing, just to criticize.

Troll? No..I've already stated clearly that I'm a casual Bey fan but simply don't agree with some of her lyrics. You can't just shrug off all comments that differ from you're opinion as trolling .

[swissman]

Originally posted by pbax

So if I walked up to you in an everyday environment and started to brag about how much money I was making you wouldn't find that arrogant? And I know exactly what I'm talking about and the point I'm trying to make thanks.
I always thought Beyonce was classy but recently with "Bow Down" and now this I'm starting to think differently of her.

I would find it arrogant.

Good thing that's not what Beyonce is doing.

[pbax]

Originally posted by swissman

I would find it arrogant.

Good thing that's not what Beyonce is doing.

No, she's just doing it with a beat behind her.
Of course Beyonce could loop a fart and her stans would claim it was the best most revolutionary song of all time. I've staned for Mariah Carey for more than half my life and I'm not that defensive with her, I can accept when she messes up and releases a song I don't like.

[KingB®]

Who the **** leaked it???
anyways...I ****IN LOVEEEEE IT
Such a bop

[♥CEB♥]

Originally posted by pbax

Sorry but I don't. Most women don't respond well to other women who have a air of arrogance. Independent Women is more like a feminist anthem that promotes female confidence, Grown Woman is basically a song about how amazing the singer is and how we should all love her because "She runs this".
It has a nice beat though I will say that!

Not when Nicki Minaj (Pre-"Starships") and the rap genre has been popular among women for the longest. So is "I'm Legit" also an arrogant, narcissistic song that is not relatable to anyone? Besides, you just mentioned that you are neither grown or a woman so how can you discern that group's response to the song?

The song is not exclusively Beyoncé empowerment, it is self-empowerment for all females (and males too, if they alter the lyrics a bit ). The last thing I get from this narcissism.

[Demiboyx]

Let me clock miss thing too

There are a lot of black girls in America who don't end up doing what they want to do and don't achieve their potential. What she's doing is saying that, look I'm a black woman too, look at what I've achieved, she's making all these racks, she can do whatever she wants... HEY, if I can do it, you can too

[Callisto.]

Originally posted by pbax

So if I walked up to you in an everyday environment and started to brag about how much money I was making you wouldn't find that arrogant? And I know exactly what I'm talking about and the point I'm trying to make thanks.
I always thought Beyonce was classy but recently with "Bow Down" and now this I'm starting to think differently of her.

Have you never heard of Diva or Upgrade U?

[waryofothers]

Do y'all really not understand why there is an audience cheer in the background?

[pbax]

Originally posted by ♥CEB♥

Not when Nicki Minaj (Pre-"Starships") and the rap genre has been popular among women for the longest. So is "I'm Legit" also an arrogant, narcissistic song that is not relatable to anyone? Besides, you just mentioned that you are neither grown or a woman so how can you discern that group's response to the song?

The song is not exclusively Beyoncé empowerment, it is self-empowerment for all females (and males too, if they alter the lyrics a bit ). The last thing I get from this narcissism.

Well yes, thats exactly what I'm saying now that you mention it. Hence the fact that Nicki came across as the most arrogant and immature person on the plant on AI.
How many of Mariah's 18 number 1 singles are about bragging about wealth and self-importance? What about any of MJ's or Whitney's timeless songs? Oh yeah..None.

[Walley]

Originally posted by pbax

So if I walked up to you in an everyday environment and started to brag about how much money I was making you wouldn't find that arrogant? And I know exactly what I'm talking about and the point I'm trying to make thanks.
I always thought Beyonce was classy but recently with "Bow Down" and now this I'm starting to think differently of her.

But Beyoncé isn't walking up to you bragging about her money. You clicked PLAY on HER song. It's not like Beyoncé is walking up and down the street and doing interviews bragging about how much money she makes. She has the creative freedom to do whatever she wants with her art. Try again next time.

[Hustler]

Originally posted by Demiboyx

Let me clock miss thing too

There are a lot of black girls in America who don't end up doing what they want to do and don't achieve their potential. What she's doing is saying that, look I'm a black woman too, look at what I've achieved, she's making all these racks, she can do whatever she wants... HEY, if I can do it, you can too

Tell 'em sis

[pbax]

Originally posted by Callisto.

Have you never heard of Diva or Upgrade U?

Yep, my two least favourite songs from both albums.

[DripDrip]

Hm, its a little bit of a grower, but some parts kind of put me to sleep and feel repetitive so it loses the momentum.

[pbax]

Originally posted by Walley

But Beyoncé isn't walking up to you bragging about her money. You clicked PLAY on HER song. It's not like Beyoncé is walking up and down the street and doing interviews bragging about how much money she makes. She has the creative freedom to do whatever she wants with her art. Try again next time.

You're right, she does have the freedom to say whatever she wants in her songs. Whether people can relate with it enough to replay the song and help it translate into sales though is another issue.

[A-kafi Joke]

i hope she puts this on itunes !!

[swissman]

Originally posted by pbax

You're right, she does have the freedom to say whatever she wants in her songs. Whether people can relate with it enough to replay the song and help it translate into sales though is another issue.

I highly doubt many people will feel alienated because she says she makes "all these racks" in her song. I'm sure that there will be many more grown woman proclaiming their status than there are complaining that Beyonce admits she makes money.