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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by King Maxx
The problem is that he probably did not even have an input in that list. His surrogates told him to go for that.
I doubt Trump has any ideology and set stance on issues. That's why he should not be president. Liberal, moderate, conservative, or not.
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And they say Hillary is malleable
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
Posts: 6,399
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Originally posted by Dessy Fenix
He seems like a loudmouth puppet of the GOP at this point. A bit disappointing to me.
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So far he has been campaigning on a mix of Cruz (common core, bomb em all, police muslims), Sanders (free-trade, Iraq, NATO), and the typical GOP playbook (minimum wage, tax plan, abortion, climate change).
Trump will have a hard time in debates if he doesn't square all of this up.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by RatedG²
@Nate_Cohn: Okay, so you don't like closed primaries. Clinton won 12 open primaries for a net-287 delegates. All S wins (closed/open/caucus) = net-226
lol why he dragging?
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That's not even the point
Each state having different rules for the same election is stupid. Blocking independents from voting is stupid. It has nothing to do with the candidates for me; I just want a fair election system.
There really isn't a way to predict the outcome of the closed primaries if they were open though, so those closed primaries he's excluding could've potentially went to Bernie and thus give him more delegates.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
Posts: 28,099
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Independents can change their party to Democrat or Republican if they want to vote for the DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PARTY.
We all know they have a partisan ideology so just get in line and join the party that you obviously support more. A liberal Independent would never vote for a Republican and vice versa. It just makes no sense how different and "cool" y'all want to be for no reason. Just my opinion.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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There's been a lot of Independent shaming on here lately. I really don't see what the problem is, no party really has a monopoly on what's right and wrong, and people shouldn't consistently feel bad for not registering with a partisan party. I think the system of allowing independents to be recognized, catered for and allowed to vote freely is great. Not every country enjoys that, not even all US states fully enjoy that either.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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I don't have a problem with Independents voting. If all states became open/mixed, then great. I'm just saying you can't be mad or call unfair that some Democratic leaders do not want outside people voting and deciding their Democratic candidate.
That's like getting a job as Dominos, but constantly promoting Pizza Hut to customers. What do you expect! (And yes I just made a pizza comparison with politics. )
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
Posts: 8,593
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Originally posted by King Maxx
I don't have a problem with Independents voting. If all states became open/mixed, then great. I'm just saying you can't be mad or call unfair that some Democratic leaders do not want outside people voting and deciding their Democratic candidate.
That's like getting a job as Dominos, but constantly promoting Pizza Hut to customers. What do you expect! (And yes I just made a pizza comparison with politics. )
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Wouldn't that be the equivalent of Republicans/Dominos and Democrats/Hut, though? Being independent really just means you're nonpartisan, bipartisan, or partisan yet may swing on a specific category of issues, etc.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
Posts: 8,593
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Originally posted by Reaper
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Don't Republicans debate on liberal/left-leaning networks all the time? I'm sure Democratic candidates (who actually have quite some substance) can handle a bunch on Fox moderators. They already did a town hall there!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The guy from my state (Missouri) that Trump floated around for the Supreme Court wants to destroy Roe v Wade. When is this supposed pivot going to happen with Trump everyone kept rambling about?
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
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Originally posted by Giselle
No, not "particularly by impersonating Bernie supporters" You guys have GOT to get your news from places other than TYT The purpose of Correct The Record's move was to get people to be more vocal on social media about supporting Hillary and counteract all of the Feel The Bern mess. Not to call people saying horrible things pretending to be Little Bernie's That was a very incorrect statement you just made. And that's kind of... often.
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Why are you so obsessed with TYT? I don't understand how you use it to dismiss people's argument yet you keep up with their every move. You are the only person who ever talks about them
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The groups were targeted by online trolls, who posted ****ographic images and reported the groups to Facebook admins. Some legitimate Bernie supporters even reported seeing images containing pedophilia, according to reporting from Heavy.com.
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http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-f...roups-trolled/
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Trump will never pivot, lol. He doesn't even need to, bc he's not running on any issues (except the wall)
The bar is set so low for him, like a child, all people want for him is to "act presidential"
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
Posts: 7,989
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Originally posted by Reaper
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Who cares? Hillary could have a cardboard cutout of herself sit in for at a debate at this point and she would still secure the nomination. Bernie's just desperate at this point and it's clear as day. I respected him for a long time in this election, but his desperation (along with his listening and taking awful advice from Jeff Weaver) has made me grown to dislike him, quite frankly. He lost. Let's move on to the GE.
Also, I don't care about the Fox News aspect. They had a town hall with Fox News and Hillary did phenomenal. Bernie's portion was, more-or-less, no different from anything he had put out before. I'm fine with there being another debate or no debate at all. It's up to Hillary. Either decision won't change a damn thing.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Member Since: 4/27/2012
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Originally posted by Javan
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I don't need to be coddled so I'm able to watch things with oppossing viewpoints. I watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, TYT, and a variety of other things. I'm not obsessed with them, I actually liked them very much before this election. However, when I see someone saying something stupid regarding the election, it's likely that I'll come to the election thread to post about it
Anyway, that link says a Clinton supporter saw disgusting things on a Bernie page and reported it. Where's the receipts that it was a Clinton supporter posting the horrible things? Come with receipts, not conspiracies.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
Posts: 15,589
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Originally posted by Skywalker
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Lmao i hope the Sanderistas who're counting on Donald for their 'revolution' are reading this.
On a side note, he's literally morphing into the ugly neocons he railed against so much in the primary. Now he's also begging for cash like everyone else, so much for 'self funding'.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
Posts: 71,871
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Originally posted by Marvin
That's not even the point
Each state having different rules for the same election is stupid. Blocking independents from voting is stupid. It has nothing to do with the candidates for me; I just want a fair election system.
There really isn't a way to predict the outcome of the closed primaries if they were open though, so those closed primaries he's excluding could've potentially went to Bernie and thus give him more delegates.
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She would've smoked him there too. No matter what narrative you choose she would've had a lead
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Bloo
Who cares? Hillary could have a cardboard cutout of herself sit in for at a debate at this point and she would still secure the nomination. Bernie's just desperate at this point and it's clear as day. I respected him for a long time in this election, but his desperation (along with his listening and taking awful advice from Jeff Weaver) has made me grown to dislike him, quite frankly. He lost. Let's move on to the GE.
Also, I don't care about the Fox News aspect. They had a town hall with Fox News and Hillary did phenomenal. Bernie's portion was, more-or-less, no different from anything he had put out before. I'm fine with there being another debate or no debate at all. It's up to Hillary. Either decision won't change a damn thing.
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Not a cardboard cutout
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by RatedG²
She would've smoked him there too. No matter what narrative you choose she would've had a lead
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I guess you didn't see me say that wasn't the point?
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by Bloo
Who cares? Hillary could have a cardboard cutout of herself sit in for at a debate at this point and she would still secure the nomination. Bernie's just desperate at this point and it's clear as day. I respected him for a long time in this election, but his desperation (along with his listening and taking awful advice from Jeff Weaver) has made me grown to dislike him, quite frankly. He lost. Let's move on to the GE.
Also, I don't care about the Fox News aspect. They had a town hall with Fox News and Hillary did phenomenal. Bernie's portion was, more-or-less, no different from anything he had put out before. I'm fine with there being another debate or no debate at all. It's up to Hillary. Either decision won't change a damn thing.
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There's nothing desperate about accepting an invitation
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