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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Some of you are so foolish
American history is the oscillation between liberal and conservative thought
Always has been, always will be
This period of liberal thought will only end up being flipped the older voters get and the more and more they possess their own life's experiences
Donald may not get the votes, but he has brought up a more interesting issue of growing conservative thought again
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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There's nothing conservative about Donald though...
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by hairofglory
This reads like typical liberal logic to me-- completely incapable of reading trends. You realize Christians are being slaughtered en mass by radical Islamic terrorists worldwide? There is increasing, tangible hatred in many Islamic communities TODAY that aims to destroy America and liberals are cluelessly (or maybe purposefully) aiding their cause by refusing to call out the problem in the name of being PC. And this ******** that "love" will beat the enemy that liberals are spewing today is childish and hypocritical, as if liberals have not an ounce of hate in themselves.
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I'm completely aware of what's happening to Christians in certain countries. Thankfully, I possess enough sound judgment to self-evaluate my own thoughts and not let my disdain for such acts turn me into a bigot that wants to arbitrarily prejudge everyone of the Islamic faith anymore than I judge Christians who commit heinous acts in the name of their faith. I encourage you to do the same.
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
The San Bernardino shooting alone was almost three times as deadly as all of these cases combined. My heart goes out to all the victims from these incidents, obviously, but there is a significant difference in severity here, people...
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There's absolutely nothing stopping a mentally deranged Christian who is also an American citizen and has access to the same weaponry from committing acts of violence on the same scale in the name of their faith. Stop reaching.
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Originally posted by Blues
Is it really bigoted to say islam hates gays?
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No, but it's undeniably bigoted to want to arbitrarily discriminate against potential immigrants of entire religious groups just because a small percentage of them commit acts of violence.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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People actually think Donald Trump is a true conservative..? 
If true conservatism was the popular options than Ted Cruz or Rand Paul would have clinched the nomination.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Banning Muslims from the country is asinine. What about the millions of Muslims already in the country that were born in the country? There is no logical way to argue that Trump's proposal makes any sense, logistically and morally.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Nobody said Donald was a conservative, just that he stirs conservative thought
Hence the post
Why has nobody responded to the civilian bombings Hillary supports though? 
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Listen... I'm the biggest Hillary stan in the world... Truth is, I think Donald Trump has a very strong chance of winning because whether you choose to admit it or not--the majority of Americans do associate these attacks with our permeable borders... He has an easier argument in my opinion..
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Have people lost sight of how liberal America has become in the last 10-20 years? Republicans will struggle to win a GE as it is, they've got literally no chance with Donald.
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Don't underestimate how dumb our country is. His views are more mainstream than we want to believe.
And his popularity has nothing to do with conservatism.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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Originally posted by MrYorkshireFenty
And banning all Muslims from entering America is right? How is it poor logic? It's common sense. Ur in completely and utter denial if you think you're any safer. How ignorant do you have to be to the rest of the nation, to think you'll benefit from banning them? All that time, money and energy, to stop some radical group America helped start in the first place? Republicans think it's safer to arm these terrorists, than let a transgender person use the bathroom, but you're worried you'll get taken out by an Islamic extremist? Nevermind the guy you're supporting being a homophobe.
Frazier Glenn Miller was Neo-Nazi Christian and targeted a Synagogue full of Jews. Killed 3
Charleston Shooter Dylan Roof, raised Christian and followed Neo-Nazi ideology and killed 9 African-Americans.
Wade Michael Page shot up a Sikh Temple killing 7. Was Neo-Nazi of Christian identity.
Gays are being attacked and killed all over the world. Over 600 killed in America in Between 2013-2014. 249 killed in Peru between 2006 - 2010. 1,400 killed in Brazil 2007 - 2012. Where was Islam then?
Remember your chances. Poor you, so afraid.
OH, so it's a competition now? Because less people died, it makes the the psychology of the killers seem less worthy, than the select few "Islamic" ones? I see why you love trump if you're THIS flippant. It's a bigger deal in your head because the paranoia that the fear-mongering republicans have imprinted is causing you to the "Islamic" attacks as a bigger threat, than everything else. That's why you're voting for them. That's why it's the angle they go with. |
I didn't even mention a Muslim ban in my post, although a temporary one may be needed; as a less extreme measure, better screening of immigrants and the children of foreigners is necessary. I don't know why you're even mentioning transgender people using the bathroom. Running out of ideas?
You provided no receipts for the killings of gay all over the world. Regardless of all the other non-Islamic terrorist attacks in the U.S., attackers who claim responsibility for 9/11 and now the largest shooting in American history have been linked to radical Islam, and it has all happened in the past two decades. These are the largest attacks against American citizens.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Listen... I'm the biggest Hillary stan in the world... Truth is, I think Donald Trump has a very strong chance of winning because whether you choose to admit it or not--the majority of Americans do associate these attacks with our permeable borders... He has an easier argument in my opinion..
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Hilary needs to clock his tea live on TV and say that the Orlando killer was AMERICAN. Which means his easy access to war weaponry is the reason why the shooting happened the way it did. She needs to also state that Chump made a mistake saying the Orlando shooter was born in Afghanistan. She should be witty and say "If someone makes such an easy mistake, wait until the hard decisions in presidency come along".
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
Banning Muslims from the country is asinine. What about the millions of Muslims already in the country that were born in the country? There is no logical way to argue that Trump's proposal makes any sense, logistically and morally.
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Apparently he's not doing that anymore, only from certain countries.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Vrx.
Nobody said Donald was a conservative, just that he stirs conservative thought
Hence the post
Why has nobody responded to the civilian bombings Hillary supports though? |
Give me a source and I'll give it a look.
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Listen... I'm the biggest Hillary stan in the world... Truth is, I think Donald Trump has a very strong chance of winning because whether you choose to admit it or not--the majority of Americans do associate these attacks with our permeable borders... He has an easier argument in my opinion..
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I don't think it will be that big of a help, though. Hillary is also in favor of border defense as well. Further, once we get to the general and Donald is confronted with the discussion of foreign policy against a former secretary of state that is defined as "hawkish" almost every day of her life, I think he is going to struggle. It may help him now, but as we get closer to the GE, Hillary's foreign policy background is going to massively pay off. HillaryHens have said from the start (in the old thread) that foreign policy is a lot more important in the GE and Hillary is the most experienced candidate on either side. Hillary is not a pacifist by any means, and that is likely going to help her with this.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Idk if this is appropriate and relevant to ask, but what is that story of Hillary with the 12 year old girl/rape victim? I'm her supporter, but from what I've heard it sounds.... 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Listen... I'm the biggest Hillary stan in the world... Truth is, I think Donald Trump has a very strong chance of winning because whether you choose to admit it or not--the majority of Americans do associate these attacks with our permeable borders... He has an easier argument in my opinion..
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You also said Hil was going to lose Cali.  You're basing the notion that he'll have an easier time winning over ONE area of debate?
That's fine. I want you guys to continue to feed into the propaganda that the majority of women, minority groups, MUSLIMS, and veterans will now decide to vote for Trump because of this act of terror, based off of a hate crime.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Listen... I'm the biggest Hillary stan in the world... Truth is, I think Donald Trump has a very strong chance of winning because whether you choose to admit it or not--the majority of Americans do associate these attacks with our permeable borders... He has an easier argument in my opinion..
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He won't win he's too divisive. Don't worry too much you were worried about California and look how that turned out. 
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Pharaoh
Idk if this is appropriate and relevant to ask, but what is that story of Hillary with the 12 year old girl/rape victim? I'm her supporter, but from what I've heard it sounds.... |
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...ghed-about-it/ 
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Trump's speech was awful. Did we listen to different speeches? He stated so many incorrect facts such as saying Hillary called for a ban of all guns, saying the shooter was born in Afghanistan (not New York), incorrectly represented her and Obama's immigration reform policies, and showed bigotry attempting to instill fear and hatred into the American people. He failed to acknowledge the issue of currently having terrorists already in this country. Banning more form coming in won't stop the ones inside from radicalizing others into enacting other acts of terror. From his speech, it was clear for me that the only path to a solution is to 1) improve screening of immigrants 2) put ones on watch from countries prone to terrorism 3) make it much harder for people to purchase and get their hands on an AR 4) be more cautious in investigations (since we now know there were signs of the shooter in Orlando being up to something).
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS
You also said Hil was going to lose Cali. You're basing the notion that he'll have an easier time winning over ONE area of debate?
That's fine. I want you guys to continue to feed into the propaganda that the majority of women, minority groups, MUSLIMS, and veterans will now decide to vote for Trump because of this act of terror, based off of a hate crime. |
Until we see her pull away from him in the polls, I am extremely convinced that this will be a very tight election.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Amendment No. 4882
Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 4882.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, the pending amendment is
laid aside. The clerk will report the amendment.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from California [Mrs. Feinstein], for herself
and Mr. Leahy, proposes an amendment numbered 4882.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To protect civilian lives from unexploded cluster munitions)
At the end of title VIII, add the following:
Sec. 8109. No funds appropriated or otherwise made
available by this Act may be obligated or expended to
acquire, utilize, sell, or transfer any cluster munition
unless the rules of engagement applicable to the cluster
munition ensure that the cluster munition will not be used in
or near any concentrated population of civilians, whether
permanent or temporary, including inhabited parts of cities
or villages, camps or columns of refugees or evacuees, or
camps or groups of nomads.
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Source: https://www.congress.gov/congression...rticle/S8948-2
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00232
Cluster munition being banned in over 100 countries and yet......
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Apparently he's not doing that anymore, only from certain countries.
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"only from certain countries" until something else happens.
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