This says there was no gun powder in his body, meaning he was most likely shot from a distance. Which means he couldn't have fought the officer and/or reached for his gun. The fact that the police keep getting clocked for lie after lie
Do we have an official statement from the police that he was fighting the gun in short distance?
This says there was no gun powder in his body, meaning he was most likely shot from a distance. Which means he couldn't have fought the officer and/or reached for his gun. The fact that the police keep getting clocked for lie after lie
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Have you read even the article?
The police officer said he fought for the gun in the car, it went off, he got out of the car, the kid charged him, he shot, the kid didn't stop and so he took him down. This evidence so far seems to support his side of the story more than it supports anybody else's side, though it's foolish to assume what happened when information like the angle of the entrance points is not shared.
Be prepared, though, because if the evidence does continue to support the officer's story, it is very possible that the officer will be acquitted.
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Originally posted by Chemical X.
Did y'all see the white people (and one black man ) protesting in DEFENSE of Darren Wilson? That **** was crazy.
The fact that they had to specifically point out the one black person They were in downtown St. Louis, too, in front of a news building; which isn't technically the same city as Ferguson
The police officer said he fought for the gun in the car, it went off, he got out of the car, the kid charged him, he shot, the kid didn't stop and so he took him down. This evidence so far seems to support his side of the story more than it supports anybody else's side, though it's foolish to assume what happened when information like the angle of the entrance points is not shared.
Be prepared, though, because if the evidence does continue to support the officer's story, it is very possible that the officer will be acquitted.
The fact that they had to specifically point out the one black person They were in downtown St. Louis, too, in front of a news building; which isn't technically the same city as Ferguson
And that still doesn't make sense. Nobody is gonna charge someone after a gun goes off. Please. The police chief said he was killed after a physical confrontation. AGAIN, there was no gun powder in his body meaning he would have had to been shot from a distance. If they changed their story since then, fine, but that just proves they're still trash.
The police officer said he fought for the gun in the car, it went off, he got out of the car, the kid charged him, he shot, the kid didn't stop and so he took him down. This evidence so far seems to support his side of the story more than it supports anybody else's side, though it's foolish to assume what happened when information like the angle of the entrance points is not shared.
Be prepared, though, because if the evidence does continue to support the officer's story, it is very possible that the officer will be acquitted.
The fact that they had to specifically point out the one black person They were in downtown St. Louis, too, in front of a news building; which isn't technically the same city as Ferguson
None of the evidence agrees with the officer's story.
People were livetweeting AS it happened, saying that the kid was running AWAY.
The shots were fired from over 30 feet away, how does that equate to charging on the police officer after having attempted to grab his gun?
And that still doesn't make sense. Nobody is gonna charge someone after a gun goes off. Please. The police chief said he was killed after a physical confrontation. AGAIN, there was no gun powder in his body meaning he would have had to been shot from a distance. If they changed their story since then, fine, but that just proves they're still trash.
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None of the evidence agrees with the officer's story.
People were livetweeting AS it happened, saying that the kid was running AWAY.
The shots were fired from over 30 feet away, how does that equate to charging on the police officer after having attempted to grab his gun?
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They took down the original video after people started questioning it, but here's an eyewitness also saying that he bumrushed the police. Ignore the creep talking about it; this is only important because of the original video being included.
When someone charges at you, you would shoot at them while they're away from you. I'm not sure if that really needs an explanation.
I'm not saying I believe any side. I believed my friend's aunt and it turned out her story was wrong. I believed Dorian Johnson and it turned out he lies regularly and the autopsy revealed he wasn't correct about Mike getting shot in the back (granted, that could be an honest mistake). The only two accounts that seem to really stand up are the officer's account and Tiffany Mitchell's, imo. Although I'm more inclined to believe Tiffany's account, I refuse to side with anyone else till they confirm the angle of the entrance wounds (which could determine whether his hands were really up, whether the officer really stood over him and shot him in his chest, whether he really rushed the officer, etc).
We'll see if this one turns out to be another lie backed by the SLCPD or the truth.
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Police sources tell me more than a dozen witnesses have corroborated cop's version of events in shooting #Ferguson
At this point I say **** both sides and keep protesting for black lives that are regularly lost due to police brutality but the looting and now shooting **** needs to go.
A 23-year-old African-American man was shot and killed by St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department officers midday on Tuesday, less than four miles from the protests in Ferguson. The man was brandishing a knife, witnesses said.
According to the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Chief Sam Dotson, the man entered a convenience store and stole two energy drinks. The store proprietor told him to stop, but he walked out. He later returned, stole a package of muffins, and walked back out. The store owner walked out and asked him to pay, at which point, he threw the items on the ground. Both the store owner and a local alderman called police.
A pair of officers arrived to see the man acting erratically, grabbing his waistband and holding a knife. The police got out of their car, and gave verbal commands for the man to drop the knife, which he was brandishing with an overhand grip “in an aggressive manner,” Dotson continued. He then approached the officers.
The police repeated their commands to drop the knife. When the suspect did not drop the weapon, both officers drew their guns and shot at him from a distance of three to four feet, killing him, the chief said.
A witness described it as “suicide-by-cop,” Dotson said. Several witnesses said the suspect was saying, “Shoot me now, kill me now.”
Investigators have recovered the knife, and are looking for security footage of the incident.
The suspect has been identified so far only as 23-year-old African American male.
What do you mean they did it again? Police Brutality is wrong and a form of racial oppression imo, but that man had it coming. When the police tell you to drop a WEAPON why would you not? Do you want them to have discussion on whether or not he should put down a potentially lethal weapon? You have to respect authority from the police. Plus the officers knew that he had stolen, and that was the reason of the confrontation it's not like he was a random stranger like in this case. They shouldn't have killed, but maybe shot his legs. Anyway its completely different from this, in no way do i see that as an injustice.
What do you mean they did it again? Police Brutality is wrong and a form of racial oppression imo, but that man had it coming. When the police tell you to drop a WEAPON why would you not? Do you want them to have discussion on whether or not he should put down a potentially lethal weapon? You have to respect authority from the police. Plus the officers knew that he had stolen, and that was the reason of the confrontation it's not like he was a random stranger like in this case. They shouldn't have killed, but maybe shot his legs. Anyway its completely different from this, in no way do i see that as an injustice.
I can see several points in that statement but with the current situation in Ferguson on tenterhooks AS IT IS, the worst thing they could have done is to kill him. Incapacitate him via shooting his legs or a flesh wound yes, but killing him will only incite more unrest and anger.
The fact he stole is totally beside the point for these protestors now. All THEY will see is another black man shot by the (largely) populated white police man.
I'm sure if he suffered an orbital blowout fracture then he wouldn't be mowing his lawn and doing yard work a couple of days later like his neighbors said.
What we are witnessing is the beginnings of an uprising. At the moment its gradual, small skirmishes but it will grow and grow the more people see others joining the cause. In America at least, ethnic minorities (particularly Black folk) have had enough. Segregation was legally abolished x amount of decades ago but in its place, still, Black folk still do not have the same access to the priveleges Whites have.
& in Obama, you have a guy that PHYSICALLY resembles a black man yet does nothing to show any empathy for the black community. has he ever, apart from his first speech, inspired you in any sort of way?
Plus we live in an age where technology is readily at our fingerprints. Protests, rallys etc. can be organised and carried out within a few hours. Twitter was a medium crucial in the Arab Spring and will be pivotal in anything that happens in America. I feel new legislation will be enacted, but at what cost and how long it takes remains to be seen. For the most part, i can totally see it a call for justice spreading to the UK (my place).
Scotland are voting for independence very soon. Catalunya and another place i have forgotten are on the verge. People are frustrated with their situations and looking to change it.
What we are witnessing is the beginnings of an uprising. At the moment its gradual, small skirmishes but it will grow and grow the more people see others joining the cause. In America at least, ethnic minorities (particularly Black folk) have had enough. Segregation was legally abolished x amount of decades ago but in its place, still, Black folk still do not have the same access to the priveleges Whites have.
& in Obama, you have a guy that PHYSICALLY resembles a black man yet does nothing to show any empathy for the black community. has he ever, apart from his first speech, inspired you in any sort of way?
Plus we live in an age where technology is readily at our fingerprints. Protests, rallys etc. can be organised and carried out within a few hours. Twitter was a medium crucial in the Arab Spring and will be pivotal in anything that happens in America. I feel new legislation will be enacted, but at what cost and how long it takes remains to be seen. For the most part, i can totally see it a call for justice spreading to the UK (my place).
Scotland are voting for independence very soon. Catalunya and another place i have forgotten are on the verge. People are frustrated with their situations and looking to change it.
I think it's just a bunch of rowdy black people who need jobs so they can feed their family rather than committing crimes and gang banging. They want to blame police and white people for all of their problems when they are responsible for their behavior. Can't blame white people forever. Gotta take responsibility at some point.
Okay, can we take out the word "war" in the title of this thread?
A war is not a few blocks of less than 500 protestors, media personals, police officers and looters combined. The media has blown this up way too much.
I think it's just a bunch of rowdy black people who need jobs so they can feed their family rather than committing crimes and gang banging. They want to blame police and white people for all of their problems when they are responsible for their behavior. Can't blame white people forever. Gotta take responsibility at some point.
and who was it that put them in that position in the first place?