[Kayzan]

Originally posted by Sinvius

The 3 Katy stans trying for dear life to cover up the damage before the song drops and obliterates Katy's career.

Not when most of people here are team Katy and you're delusional to think that this song will end Katy's carrerr. It will do nothing, just lke the others 30 songs she wrote about her 30 boyfriends.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Artemisia

You can't just FIRE people randomly to avoid a contract.

Girl that isn't what I'm saying. If there was indeed no 30-day clause and if Taylor Swift didn't fire them (both of which you are arguing) you know her team woulda sued their asses for all they're worth. But they didn't. So that means either 1) There was a thirty day clause or 2) Taylor fired them.

It's not that hard to figure out. Either way, the dancers and Katy are innocent. I can go to sleep easy knowing I stan for someone who has basic kindness.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Qwerty1234

It takes like a day to get new dancers. From a business point of view, the consequences of her firing them are minimal. Firing them does benefit Taylor: what if she was so upset thatthey were leaving HER for Katy that she couldnt bare have them around? That might effect her performance with them. So from a businesspoint of view getting rid of them because theyre upsetting the star seems like a reason that her managers would accept. Dancers are replaceable. If you read union contracts, you'll see that a 30 day notice is a pretty good deal. Some dancers work on a monthly or even weekly basis.

Another point: I'm sure Taylor and her team had back ups. In case one of the dancers got sick or something. So again they would've been easy to replace.

I agree that it could take only a day or so to get new dancers, but what about doing rehearsals and teaching them choreo and making sure they are on the same page as the dancers who were there from the start? It all takes time and money that people don't want to spend.

And if it was as simple as using backup dancers, this wouldn't have blown up.

btw, none of this addresses the notion that Taylor fired her dancers for acting in accordance to the contract she agreed with.

[XIAN]

waiT
lemme switch teams since TMZ always got good tea

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Girl that isn't what I'm saying. If there was indeed no 30-day clause and if Taylor Swift didn't fire them (both of which you are arguing) you know her team woulda sued their asses for all they're worth. But they didn't. So that means either 1) There was a thirty day clause or 2) Taylor fired them.

It's not that hard to figure out. Either way, the dancers and Katy are innocent. I can go to sleep easy knowing I stan for someone who has basic kindness.

I'm not saying either one as a fact. I don't know what happened for sure. I'm saying that if there was a 30 day clause, it doesn't make sense for her to fire them. Why would she get angry at them for doing something they said they would do when they were being hired? And if she did fire them, then something else we don't know must have happened.

It just doesn't add up to me that there was a 30 day agreement AND she fired them.

[Glass]

Not the Taylor fans saying the truth will be said when Bad Blood comes out.
When you're mad you will always think the other person is wrong, and Taylor will speak in her convenience.

[Qwerty1234]

Originally posted by Yourfavefan

But, if Taylor truly knew that these dancers were going to stop once Katy Perry starts touring, why would she actually hire them.. it's like telling the McDonalds company that you will work for them until the new Burger King store is open, where you were already promised a job. I call ******** on the dancers actually letting Taylor know. What probably happened is that they tip toed around the issue, and then once they told Taylor about the news, Taylor gave no ****s.. it's a disrespect to Taylor, and her work. The main people at fault here are the dancers. Katy Perry has no fault (unless for some reason she encouraged the dancers to do this :toofunny), and Taylor did have the right to fire them, even of it kinda seems bitchy; but if you look at it as a business perspective, it's logical

If you look at it from a business perspective she would have shrugged it off and used the 30 days to find replacements.. The fact that she fired them on the spot tells me she took it personal.

Plenty of people, if you look at it from a business perspective, take a job while they wait for something better to come along. And when it does come along, like a tour you might prefer, then you give ur employer plenty of notice to find a replacement. Which is the decent thingto do.Like the dancers did.

The only way what the dancers did becomes "wrong" is if you make it all personal and start talking about loyalty instead of looking at it as you should: a typical business contract of employment.

[Kayzan]

Originally posted by Glass

Not the Taylor fans saying the truth will be said when Bad Blood comes out.
When you're mad you will always think the other person is wrong, and Taylor will speak in her convenience.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Artemisia

It just doesn't add up to me that there was a 30 day agreement AND she fired them.

Yes, most people wouldn't do that.

But she did, and its why Taylor is in the wrong. All your assumptions are assuming Taylor acted according to terms. But the overwhelming evidence points to the result that Taylor didn't. She let her emotions take control and she fired them to prove a point.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Yes, most people wouldn't do that.

But she did, and its why Taylor is in the wrong. All your assumptions are assuming Taylor acted according to terms. But the overwhelming evidence points to the result that Taylor didn't. She let her emotions take control and she fired them to prove a point.

There is no solid evidence pointing towards anything. Everyone is making assumptions.

It's not impossible that Taylor did that, but it doesn't make sense for her to do that. And I'm gonna go with what makes sense for now, until we learn more. You could be right, it just doesn't sound like the most convincing narrative considering what we know (as in facts, not gossip).

[Qwerty1234]

Originally posted by Artemisia

I agree that it could take only a day or so to get new dancers, but what about doing rehearsals and teaching them choreo and making sure they are on the same page as the dancers who were there from the start? It all takes time and money that people don't want to spend.

And if it was as simple as using backup dancers, this wouldn't have blown up.

btw, none of this addresses the notion that Taylor fired her dancers for acting in accordance to the contract she agreed with.

according to the tmz article:

We're told the dancers told Taylor up front ... they did not want to sign for the full tour -- they wanted a 30-day out, and we're told it's because they were just waiting for Katy to go back on tour.

They told her to they wanted a 30 days clause. If I understand what written above correctly, they didnt tell her it was because they would want to leave for Katy. I dont blame them. Its not wrong. Ur not going to tell ur current employer u might leave for a competitor. They were profesional enough to give notice.

But when Taylor found out it was to join her enemy Katy's tour, she got upset and fired them. 30 days notice be damned.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Qwerty1234

according to the tmz article:

We're told the dancers told Taylor up front ... they did not want to sign for the full tour -- they wanted a 30-day out, and we're told it's because they were just waiting for Katy to go back on tour.

They told her to they wanted a 30 days clause. If I understand what written above correctly, they didnt tell her it was because they would want to leave for Katy. I dont blame them. Its not wrong. Ur not going to tell ur current employer u might leave for a competitor. They were profesional enough to give notice.

But when Taylor found out it was to join her enemy Katy's tour, she got upset and fired them. 30 days notice be damned.

While the facts don't completely support this (we will never know why Taylor fired them instead of just letting them go according to the contract) this sounds somewhat plausible. Taylor said Katy was "competitive", quoted from the article but from the facts we have been given, Katy wasn't being "competitive" at all really. I think Taylor didn't like Katy.

[uhoh-ohno]

Who's with me in nominating John Mayer for Pimp of the Year?

[Qwerty1234]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

While the facts don't completely support this (we will never know why Taylor fired them instead of just letting them go according to the contract) this sounds somewhat plausible. Taylor said Katy was "competitive", quoted from the article but from the facts we have been given, Katy wasn't being "competitive" at all really. I think Taylor didn't like Katy.

Well yeah, the above is imo of course. But based on circumstancial evidence, thats the most obvious motive. Theres no other logical reason; she took it personal.

[ethan]

This feels a bit like the beginning of the end for Taylor tbh. You can come for anyone you want, but coming for one of America's two sweethearts when you're the other one is not a good idea.

It's obvious that Katy isn't into playing shady games and this song isn't going to expose anything. Taylor sure is doing a great job creating hype by bringing Katy's name into it though. That's what Gaga tried to do too.

[fridayteenage]

TMZ? Bye.

[HASHTAGPOW]

this lame feud

[katheryn]

Originally posted by Qwerty1234

Well yeah, the above is imo of course. But based on circumstancial evidence, thats the most obvious motive. Theres no other logical reason; she took it personal.

I agree. I don't think she knew they were Katy's dancers to begin with, that's why she believed Katy "stole" her dancers and tried to sabotage her tour.

[Grown K]

Originally posted by castle13

Very cool and interesting

Originally posted by Robert

TMZ soooo accurate

Originally posted by holyground

Wait, you mean people on ATRL still fall for TMZ?

Actually, TMZ is one of the most accurate, reliable sources.

[Life Savers]

Seems like Katy spilled the tea with her Regina tweet

In all seriousness though, this is kind of a silly feud, especially if what TMZ is reporting is actually right (and they're seldom wrong).