I've always thought that Adele is like a perfect human being but perhaps she isn't after all.
Adele cancelled her entire US tour back in 2009 that she could spent time with her boyfriend of that time — the inspiration and the man behind the album 21 — photographer Alex Sturrock. http://www.alexsturrock.com/
All those excuses for her lack of promotion make her look quite selfish and incredibly lazy. The argument she had with Robert Pattison about whether or not she's the best selling female artist of all time shows that perhaps her success has gone up to her head.
The fact that she first arranged a meeting with William Orbit but then ditched him like a piece of shite is very rude from her part. She did something similar with Dan Wilson when she first recorded a SLY demo with him and then ditched him like Orbit. Adele did the same to Rick Rubin as well but on a larger scale. Rick arranged the entire album 21 with huge orchestra but then Adele decided to release all the raw versions of the songs — including the Dan Wilson-made SLY. She got the money but Rick Rubin must have felt abused.
Adele has never thanked her fans when she's received awards. The woman hasn't bothered to keep us updated about her life after she got really famous. She has kept her son's name confidential like its some sort of a government secret. She doesn't let her dying father to see his grandson.
I do understand where you're coming from, but there are a few things to take into perspective.
Adele had been drinking a lot at the time. She was young and foolish. And after the relationship ended badly for her, Adele realized her mistake and she later acknowledged that her cancelling the rest of her tour for a boy was very selfish on her part:
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"I was drinking far too much and that was kind of the basis of my relationship with this boy. I couldn't bear to be without him, so I was like, 'Well, OK, I'll just cancel my stuff then. ... I can't believe I did that. ... It seems so ungrateful." SOURCE: http://www.ibtimes.com/adele-reporte...n-video-704613
Second of all, the comment she made to Robert Pattinson did seem a little conceited. That did disappoint me. I don't think she's that self-centered, though, and I don't think it got to her head. I mean, some of what Robert said didn't even make sense. "Just reach for it"? Reach for what? I don't know. He said he regretted everything he had said and he laughed when he said that she referred to herself as the biggest selling female artist ever. I think that was just a joke. Nothing else would lead me to believe she's that self-centered. Everyone else that has talked to her has raved about how gracious and kind and humble she is. Plus, the fact that it happened at like, 2:00 AM makes me wonder if one of them was drunk or something, 'cause that sounds a bit out-of-character for either one of them.
And a lot of times what happens with collaborations like the William Orbit / Adele thing is that an artist kind of mentions, "Oh, I'd love to work with you" or something like that and someone gets the wrong idea. And for all we know, she could still come back and ask Orbit to be on her album. And I had never heard of that Dan Wilson thing or the Rick Rubin thing. I knew she wanted to release it all raw, but I didn't know Rick Rubin arranged it with an orchestra and stuff. Where did you hear that?
And yeah, she doesn't thank her fans often, but she does get nervous and she likes to keep her acceptance speeches straight and to-the-point. Plus, pretty much everyone in the world is a fan of hers (whether they admit to it or not). I don't think she means anything by it. As for Angelo's name, I don't know.... There has to be a reason for it. Maybe it's somehow linked to her new album title or something? I don't know. I know she doesn't want anyone intruding on her private life. She wants there to be a boundary between her private and public life, which I totally get and respect. And I do agree with you about the thing with her father, but I understand why she finds it so hard to forgive him. I mean... He lied to her and in her eyes, made her believe he still cared when he didn't. He went and sold stories about her to a paper and she despises the paparazzi and rumors and anything along those lines. Plus, considering how close she is to her mother, I'm sure she resents him for leaving her as well. She cares so much about Angelo that I don't think she wants someone like him, who she doesn't trust, in her son's life. That's just my opinion.
I don't foresee Rick Rubin or Dan Wilson being upset with the turn out of 21. They work with a lot of artists and I'm sure it's not the first time an artist didn't chose one of their recordings. (Not saying I have confirmation of her doing this, just following the discussion ). I am pretty sure Rick and Dan received fair compensation for their production rights on 21. These "fees" are pre-set usually and paid by the record label. There may be incorporated bonuses, etc, for sales, but they usually are paid a set percentage of each song, album, etc that they have credits on. And please don't think I'm assuming you don't know this stuff, i am just trying to provide some perception so you aren't stressing about Adele burning bridges. Remember, no one really knows what takes place but her and those around her, so anything we hear in the press is probably not the whole truth.
I've always thought that Adele is like a perfect human being but perhaps she isn't after all.
Adele cancelled her entire US tour back in 2009 that she could spent time with her boyfriend of that time — the inspiration and the man behind the album 21 — photographer Alex Sturrock. http://www.alexsturrock.com/
All those excuses for her lack of promotion make her look quite selfish and incredibly lazy. The argument she had with Robert Pattison about whether or not she's the best selling female artist of all time shows that perhaps her success has gone up to her head.
The fact that she first arranged a meeting with William Orbit but then ditched him like a piece of shite is very rude from her part. She did something similar with Dan Wilson when she first recorded a SLY demo with him and then ditched him like Orbit. Adele did the same to Rick Rubin as well but on a larger scale. Rick arranged the entire album 21 with huge orchestra but then Adele decided to release all the raw versions of the songs — including the Dan Wilson-made SLY. She got the money but Rick Rubin must have felt abused.
Adele has never thanked her fans when she's received awards. The woman hasn't bothered to keep us updated about her life after she got really famous. She has kept her son's name confidential like its some sort of a government secret. She doesn't let her dying father to see his grandson.
Let me take off my stanning cap for ha and stan for someone else
I've always thought that Adele is like a perfect human being but perhaps she isn't after all.
All those excuses for her lack of promotion make her look quite selfish and incredibly lazy. The argument she had with Robert Pattison about whether or not she's the best selling female artist of all time shows that perhaps her success has gone up to her head.
The fact that she first arranged a meeting with William Orbit but then ditched him like a piece of shite is very rude from her part. She did something similar with Dan Wilson when she first recorded a SLY demo with him and then ditched him like Orbit. Adele did the same to Rick Rubin as well but on a larger scale. Rick arranged the entire album 21 with huge orchestra but then Adele decided to release all the raw versions of the songs — including the Dan Wilson-made SLY. She got the money but Rick Rubin must have felt abused.
Adele has never thanked her fans when she's received awards. The woman hasn't bothered to keep us updated about her life after she got really famous. She has kept her son's name confidential like its some sort of a government secret. She doesn't let her dying father to see his grandson.
Ok but in all seriousness I think some things are taken off of perspective.
1) Her argument with Robert Pattinson could have sounded a bit different. All we have heard is Robert's side so his words may have been a bit skewed. We don't really know what they said to each other. And if Adele said that then yeah its a problem.
2)Yeah the Orbit thing is a bit rude, but we also don't know how the music industry works behind the scenes. I would say its sort of rude of her though but then again she may have never met him in the first place, which still isn't cool.
3) Her work with Dan Wilson and Rick Rubin is just part of the process of making music in my opinion. Just because you work with an artist doesn't mean your work with them will be finalized and be put on the album. Rick Rubin and Dan Wilson never seemed to have qualms with her after working with her so I don't think we should too.
4)Yeah Adele has never thanked her fans when accepting awards and I noticed this but I wouldn't let this stop me from liking her . Perhaps she could be more considerate, but I won't go to crazy about this.
5)The thing is Adele DOESN'T have to keep us up to date with her life. It's HER life, and one of the reasons why a lot of us like her is because she is not your all-in-your--face artist unlike some other pop artists. Also I think Adele wanted a break, and afterall you can't demand a celebrity to always update their fans on what they do.
6) She has already said that she will let people know what her son's name is, but she wasn't ready when she first had him. I respect this decision a lot. She doesn't want to put her baby out in the spotlight like that and its her personal decision. We already see how some celebrities push their baby out in the spotlight like that and perhaps the fame will get to them one day if they continue to live like that. We have seen classic scenarios where little kids who grow up in fame become a bit messed up.
7) Her dying father thing could have also been made up. What source was it from again? Also we don't know a single thing about their relationship and if Adele doesn't want to let him see her if its true then its her choice. Is it mean? Maybe, but then again if we were to go by the sources, Adele has expressed that she didn't like how her father did an interview they were suppose to do together. They also seemed to have many bumps in their relationship before and perhaps she is sick and tired of it. Also don't you find it funny that he would once again go to the media to try to catch her attention? He's doing the thing she doesn't like which is a bit ironic. Anyways we don't know much of this and this could all be made up.
Okay, I won't comment on most of those things, because most of it are probably just rumours etc. and we don't know much about it.
BUT, why on Earth should she let her father see his grandson (= forgive him)? All we know about their relationship is that he left them when she was young (I'm sorry, but who cares his father died, that's not a reason to start drinking and leave your child), she tried to reunite with him and he went and SOLD HIS STORY to a freaking tabloid, even though he definitely knew she hated tabloids. She said she didn't want to hear from him ever again and that man did what? WENT AND DID THE SAME F*CKING THING THAT MADE HER UPSET. I'm sorry, but from all the facts we know, he seems to actually just care about $$$ and not about her. If I were her, I wouldn't forgive him either.
I thought it would be fun for Adele fans to do a rate thread on our own, in the base!
Anyways rate each song 1-10, 1 being you disliked the song and 10 being you loved the song.
Furthermore all rates should be PMed to me.
Have fun exploring Adele's music for another time!
Lol, the Adele segments starts at 10.10. I mean not a drunken boy can tell Adele how to handle her career. Try that, be drunk and tell your girlfriend what she has to do.
To Rick Rubin, he wanted all songs raw, she decided to put strings on it, besides SLY and Lovesong.
We have the same now with Lorde, seems some can't handle that she decides what to do.
And to Willy, he talked a lot of crap during the Elton/Madonna feud.
Actually everything anti-bitch complained about in their post is everything I love about Adele tbh.
I love that she hasn't given us some dumb name and I'm glad she doesn't use her fans as a marketing ploy. She's obviously very appreciative of her fans and I don't think she should have to devote her life them them to prove that she's thankful.
And I like that she lays low about her life when she's not out promoting. As a stan, it's difficult, but I'd rather someone keep quiet about everything rather than go out and make a fool of themselves publicly or throw all of their personal business out in the public for everyone to see.
And when it comes to who she's worked with, obviously things change at the last minute and at the end of the day, it's her album that she has to release. As a producer, you go into an album knowing you may or may not end up making the final cut or whatever. It's like that with every artist. It's not rude at all. Adele has been nothing but completely complimentary about everyone she's worked with. Several of her producers have mentioned that she's one of the few artists that actually keeps in contact with them well after the album is out. Even Adele had dinner with Ryan Tedder when she was in New York in the Summer.
And the Robert Pattinson comments, she was likely drunk when she said that.
People need to remember that at one point she was the most talked about person on the earth and she was obviously very uncomfortable with it, hence why she's managed to stay out of the public eye and keep quiet about everything. Obviously we'd love to be informed at every minute but if she hypes up her album too much too early, she'll just end up like Gaga. The one thing that hurts an artist the most is when they're overexposed. When she does announce the new album, everything will likely go back to the way it was when 21 was out and she knows that, hence why she's staying extra quiet right now.
People need to remember that at one point she was the most talked about person on the earth and she was obviously very uncomfortable with it, hence why she's managed to stay out of the public eye and keep quiet about everything. Obviously we'd love to be informed at every minute but if she hypes up her album too much too early, she'll just end up like Gaga. The one thing that hurts an artist the most is when they're overexposed. When she does announce the new album, everything will likely go back to the way it was when 21 was out and she knows that, hence why she's staying extra quiet right now.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with that essay about why Adele isn't perfect. I'm one of her biggest fans so I obviously mean no harm.
About her dad, Mark Evans. He might just be the biggest idiot in the world for selling out the life-story and private family photos of Adele to the British tabloids. According to him, it was Adele who was willing to do an interview together with Mark but then pulled out in the last minute. She did, however, give Mark a permission to go on with it on his own. That's exactly what he did and yet Adele got upset about that?
The question is, did Adele purposely set her father a trap in order to get him out of her life? Didn't she have the balls to do it without public humiliation? Why is Adele so fickle and bitter?
Someone mentioned about burning bridges. Well, Adele has admitted giving out false information to her friends to see who leaks things about her to the media. I'm guessing that this caused the rift between Adele and her BFF Laura Dockill. So, let's not pretend that Adele doesn't burn bridges. If it wasn't for Adele's dear pal, Jessie Ware, she wouldn't have reunited with Laura.
Adele obviously has left William Orbit upset due to her actions. He said that it's a bit dangly she left the project like that. She didn't bother to warn him in advance or anything likewise.
I don't think that Rick Rubin was any happier when he heard that Adele basically backtracked on everything the duo had worked on during 2010. That's a lot of time and money wasted from both sides. It's not cheap to hire a massive orchestra to play a booming power ballad version of SLY and then to throw it all in the trash bin.
About the Robert Pattison-gate. As Adele has said herself: "drunk tongue is the honest one". We often dismiss things that drunk and tired people say because we think they don't represent the real thoughts in their heads. Unfortunately, they do. People lie much more when they are sober than drunk. Her friends can keep on gushing about how down-to-earth she is but there are dark secrets hidden in all of us, Adele is no exception. It's easy to pretend nice and lovely yet to think completely differently.
The fact that Adele cancelled her tour is very foolish indeed. Her late apologies won't do any good for the financial damage she caused to different parties involved in the US tour preparations.
I'm not saying that I have an inside scoop into her life but I don't want live in this fricking stan-bubble anymore. Adele is undeniably lazy and having a baby is not an excuse to not to move one's ass. Just look at P!nk and Beyonce. Now those ladies have a high working moral unlike our Miss Adkins MBE.
About her dad, Mark Evans. He might just be the biggest idiot in the world for selling out the life-story and private family photos of Adele to the British tabloids. According to him, it was Adele who was willing to do an interview together with Mark but then pulled out in the last minute. She did, however, give Mark a permission to go on with it on his own. That's exactly what he did and yet Adele got upset about that?
The question is, did Adele purposely set her father a trap in order to get him out of her life? Didn't she have the balls to do it without public humiliation? Why is Adele so fickle and bitter?
This whole dad story is such a gigantic mess. How do you even know any of that is true? How do you know if Adele actually gave him permission to do the interview on his own? We don't. Unless you have some hard core receipts than everything you said about their situation cannot be confirmed. What can be confirmed however is that he left when she was at a very young age. Anyways a lot of this info we got about their relationship is through a tabloid so I wouldn't be ready to assume everything said is true. Also if I'm correct we're only seeing what the dad is saying and lets just say that his perspective is probably very bias just like how it is for most stories told by someone. Anyways all I'm seeing is you trying to pinpoint fault onto Adele when her family business is HER family business. As I said we don't even know if half the things said are true. Also you're speculating and assuming many things so lets just stop there.
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Someone mentioned about burning bridges. Well, Adele has admitted giving out false information to her friends to see who leaks things about her to the media. I'm guessing that this caused the rift between Adele and her BFF Laura Dockill. So, let's not pretend that Adele doesn't burn bridges. If it wasn't for Adele's dear pal, Jessie Ware, she wouldn't have reunited with Laura.
Who mentioned burning bridges? Adele has said she has done that but is it wrong for what she did? Also you're assuming again that this caused a fight between her and her best friend. We DONT KNOW. And is it right for us to know? I think what matters is that they are friends again and that is that. Stop assuming. Also Adele tried to weed out her friends for an obvious reason so are you saying what she did is wrong? If you say yes then perhaps you should be more open minded and consider when you suddenly live a life as a celebrity that you don't want your personal things out there in the open.
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Adele obviously has left William Orbit upset due to her actions. He said that it's a bit dangly she left the project like that. She didn't bother to warn him in advance or anything likewise.
Yes she did, but he has moved on. Again we don't know the full story, and if so then it was unprofessional of Adele to leave him like that. I wouldn't do too much on Adele here though.
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I don't think that Rick Rubin was any happier when he heard that Adele basically backtracked on everything the duo had worked on during 2010. That's a lot of time and money wasted from both sides. It's not cheap to hire a massive orchestra to play a booming power ballad version of SLY and then to throw it all in the trash bin.
Once again you're assuming. You know a lot of songs gets denied from being on the album when they are putting an album together so producers should know (they do know) that not all of their work will be put on the album. And seeing the success of 21 I'm sure Rick Rubin isn't mad. Then again he may be but he never has said anything which states otherwise. I say stop pulling things out of thin air.
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About the Robert Pattison-gate. As Adele has said herself: "drunk tongue is the honest one". We often dismiss things that drunk and tired people say because we think they don't represent the real thoughts in their heads. Unfortunately, they do. People lie much more when they are sober than drunk. Her friends can keep on gushing about how down-to-earth she is but there are dark secrets hidden in all of us, Adele is no exception. It's easy to pretend nice and lovely yet to think completely differently.
Ok do you want to know the truth? Adele knows PERFECTLY well on where she is at in the music industry. To believe that Adele is oblivious to how much she has sold in today's music climate is a fantasy and Adele KNOWS that what she has accomplished with 21 is no joke. Also as I said Robert could also have skewed her words a little since we are only getting one side o the story. So, even if Adele did say that while she was drunk does it matter? In fact she is more down to earth by realizing her impact. Now you don't see Adele rubbing it in the face of the media do you?
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The fact that Adele cancelled her tour is very foolish indeed. Her late apologies won't do any good for the financial damage she caused to different parties involved in the US tour preparations.
Have you not heard that Adele acknowledged her mistake? You call her bitter, but to me you're the one being bitter here.
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I'm not saying that I have an inside scoop into her life but I don't want live in this fricking stan-bubble anymore. Adele is undeniably lazy and having a baby is not an excuse to not to move one's ass. Just look at P!nk and Beyonce. Now those ladies have a high working moral unlike our Miss Adkins MBE.
I'm not sure what made you so against Adele all of a sudden, but Adele is the person who she is. A lot of these things you stated are in a way just the way Adele is. Also I find it odd that all you have done is try to break her into pieces but you won't acknowledge the positive aspects of things she has done. Also Adele and her baby is HER LIFE. If she chooses to take a bit more time with her family then I say that is a respectable one. Would you rather her put her career first or her family first? Also yes P!nk and Beyonce do work hard, perhaps you should stan for them instead.
When it comes to Adele's dad, she has every right to treat him the way she does. He did only start trying to get back in contact with her once she became highly successful and then he began selling his story to the press.
It's obviously about money and I don't blame Adele for keeping someone like that out of her life.
edit: And her fight with Laura was before 19 was even made, while they were still in school. She said herself she didn't even remember what it was about.
I think you're doing the most to Adele tbh. She likely decided not to work with William Orbit because the album is farther along than she planned it to be at this point and probably doesn't want to add anymore writers/producers. Obviously he was told about it or else he wouldn't be commenting about not doing it anymore.
And Adele had every right to take the time off to be with her kid. If you think about it, she didn't even spend a full year with her son as she's been working on the album for the past few months.
She's not even been away THAT long either. In the current industry it feels like forever but the time she's taken off is pretty normal.
And why are people having meltdown's anyways? We should be happy that we'll be getting a new album soon.
Adele is how she's always been. I was a fan of hers during the 19 era too and the wait for new material was like this too and she was very quiet. That's just who she is. I don't think she means it in a rude or disrespectful way. Her career is not her life and she owes it to nobody to devote her entire life to her career.
). I am pretty sure Rick and Dan received fair compensation for their production rights on 21. These "fees" are pre-set usually and paid by the record label. There may be incorporated bonuses, etc, for sales, but they usually are paid a set percentage of each song, album, etc that they have credits on. And please don't think I'm assuming you don't know this stuff, i am just trying to provide some perception so you aren't stressing about Adele burning bridges. Remember, no one really knows what takes place but her and those around her, so anything we hear in the press is probably not the whole truth. 
