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Originally posted by Javan
I feel like we are talking about 2 different things here. The deadline to register as a democrat to be eligible to vote in the NY primaries was March 2015. Independents dont register their party affiliation, that's why they are independents... Bernie polled extremely well with independents, which is why the deadline affected him the most, and I'd say cost him the primary even. Now I don't know when the deadline was implemented or if it has never changed over the last 100 years, but I do know that having to register a year in advance is quite extreme when some states have same day registration.
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No, we're talking about the same thing. Independents that would have loved to vote in the primary. (Assuming it's young people). It's not voter suppression and the same laws existed in the past and they didn't stop candidates.
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Originally posted by Javan
Reaching. Obama may not have won they way y'all wanted him to, but he was not mudslinging throughout the race like Hillary was. He ran a clean campaign. The conspiracy theory of 2 dead delegates is just that, a "conspiracy theory". Hillary's conspiracy with the DNC has been exposed and proven on several accounts.
And again, Hillary and Bernie are polar opposites, Hillary and Obama are quite similar, hence why she was comfortable name dropping him 600 times throughout the primaries and promises to continue his legacy. So no you can't compare the supporters like that.
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Wrong. Both ran vicious campaigns against each other. Remember when Michelle would get on stage and smear Hillary for Bill's affairs? Remember when Obama would slam her as untrustworthy? It's a campaigning 101. You can brush off the conspiracy theory as just that but we've all seen how Trumpkins and Busters have gotten their life from those theories this election to the point that they were hoping that Hillary would die in 9/11 so that Bernie gets brought back. Please, I don't have amnesia.
And please stop with the lie that Obama and Hillary were the same. Obama was literally what Bernie is now; the outsider honest politician that didn't support the Iraq war and didn't have a history of scandals. Much like Bernie, he had young people on his side (and those laws affected them too). Much like Bernie, he grilled Hillary on her foreign policy. Unlike Bernie, he didn't have the advantage of the bad press Hillary was getting during these primaries to the point that Bernie actually had to address the emails media obsession during the debate. Bernie was even more advantaged than Obama and he still lost the popular vote by 4 million. He was only disadvantaged in the way that the DNC preferred Hillary so she would have gotten the delegates/super delegates had she lost the popular vote (Which she didn't) while it preferred Obama in 2008.
Obama is only seen as an insider now because you'd have to be stupid not to see him as one after seven years in the white house.