[Sheena]

Originally posted by hellocory

1D will beat Bieber on the charts in most of those countries he's ahead on iTunes in. If you think he's getting the #1 over 1D in the UK, Germany, etc. you are sadly mistaken. And they're 50%+ ahead of Bieber in overall sales in the US. US? Check. UK? Check. Japan? 1D are huge there, so that's probably a check too. That's the 3 biggest music markets on Earth. Poor Biebs

Maybe if 1D had used huge radio deals for Perfect, it would stabilize in the top 10, but they don't. They don't need big singles and deals to sell albums.

You swear you know everything before it happens, you aren't Miss.cleo. That percentage has mostly likely just gotten smaller day by day if you truly believe they're still leading by that much then you're clearly the only one mistaken here.

Radio is barely the reason for Justin's is positioning. In case you haven't noticed streaming has taken over, and he has also stabilized in sales. The 'deals'' only last for a short amount of time. He's just on top with all fronts hence the longevity.

I applaud your over confidence

[hellocory]

Made in the A.M.
Rolling Stone: 4/5 stars
Billboard: 4/5 stars
Newsday: B+
Digital Spy: 4/5 stars
The Telegraph: 4/5 stars

Purpose
Rolling Stone: 3.5 stars
The Telegraph: 4/5 stars

[hellocory]

Originally posted by Sheena

You swear you know everything before it happens, you aren't Miss.cleo. That percentage has mostly likely just gotten smaller day by day if you truly believe they're still leading by that much then you're clearly the only one mistaken here.

Radio is barely the reason for Justin's is positioning. In case you haven't noticed streaming has taken over, and he has also stabilized in sales. The 'deals'' only last for a short amount of time. He's just on top with all fronts hence the longevity.

The UK is 1D's biggest market and their homeland. Their last 2 albums opened with 237k and 140k. Believe opened with 38k. 1D were ahead all weekend in the States Literally from Friday until today.

Radio deals can last for a long time. Do you not remember that radio DJ exposing Katy and her label for forcing radio stations to play Dark Horse?

[nicole almighty]

Originally posted by Sheena

You're co-signing her posts therefor you are. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how either one of these tracks sound familiar to the next. Give me a good laugh

love yourself is the only one that sounds different, the other two sound similar to me

Originally posted by Penny.

ive never seen u say one delusional thing ever

1D just keeps growing as artists & getting better & better
album 5 is proving to be their best album so far which is very rare with artists to be so consistently amazing & to literally get better with every album
i am so proud of them & so happy i stan for such incredible boys/artists

aww thanks hun

And yeah I totally agree, not only have the boys been serving great music but they're such sweet and humble guys too

[Sheena]

Originally posted by hellocory

The UK is 1D's biggest market and their homeland. Their last 2 albums opened with 237k and 140k. Believe opened with 38k. 1D were ahead all weekend Literally from Friday until today.

Radio deals can last for a long time. Do you not remember that radio DJ exposing Katy and her label for forcing radio stations to play Dark Horse?

Because they released a promo single and as soon as they burnt out they fell right back under. He was also leading for quite awhile from the time period the original article was posted. They were only a couple positions higher also, lol?



And no, I don't? Nor do I care. You stay trying to discredit his success based on radio deals that you have no clue if they are still going on. I clearly stated that he's also high in streaming, and sales, so they all even each other. He isn't charting solely based on AI.

[hellocory]

I see you abandoned the UK argument seeing as FOUR's debut week was almost 4x larger than Believe's

Maybe instead of 50% 1D are only head 45% now

Here you go. Most of the huge radio songs use this payola, especially ones that started out with massive radio deals like What Do You Mean and Sorry. http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=567729

[Harrys Hairflip]

Originally posted by izzy™

I'm rooting for Justin I'm sure his album will be better anyways

Telegraph uk, rolling stone, billboard, digital spy all gave 4/5 for MITAM but im sure purpose will be "better" boo

[1989]

What does SPS stand for?

[1989]

Originally posted by Sheena

The lack of self-awareness stemming from you is ever so amusing. It must be really getting to you that he is crushing their skulls at the moment. Keep further proving my point that you haven't listened to any of the material released.



4. Sorry (BB Hot 100)
5. What Do U Mean (BB Hot 100)

44 (-15) Perfect

Read ha!

[UnusualBoy]

I think 1D will do great the first weeks but Justin will pull through at the end with longevity.

[Blues]

Originally posted by 1989

What does SPS stand for?

sales plus streaming. It includes on demand streams and single sales

[Sheena]

The UK wasn't the only place you had listed, you are basically arguing with yourself because I never stated they wouldn't but I was pointing out your bull crap about them automatically debuting higher in other markets like ''Germany, etc'' likee.

...Why are you still going on and on about this radio payola as if he's the only one guilty of it? None of his hits are AI driven so your point you're trying to prove is automatically mute.

You try so hard

[sex]

Airplay and radio deals obviously won't guarantee that a song sells (see Pretty Girls, Focus, Tori Kelly, etc.).
You have literally no grounds to claim Justin's team is using payola anyway. All we do know is that all of Justin's singles this era have stabilized at the top of charts and have sold and streamed incredibly well around the world.

And no one cares if a minority consisting of One Direction fans thinks that Justin's songs this era all sound the same. At this point it's evident that you will try your hardest to undermine Justin's success in any way possible anyway.

[UnusualBoy]

Originally posted by Harrys Hairflip

Telegraph uk, rolling stone, billboard, digital spy all gave 4/5 for MITAM but im sure purpose will be "better" boo

What does that mean? It's his opinion, chill.

[1989]

Originally posted by UnusualBoy

I think 1D will do great the first weeks but Justin will pull through at the end with longevity.

Pretty much.

[hellocory]

Originally posted by sex

Airplay and radio deals obviously won't guarantee that a song sells (see Pretty Girls, Focus, Tori Kelly, etc.).
You have literally no grounds to claim Justin's team is using payola anyway. All we do know is that all of Justin's singles this era have stabilized at the top of charts and have sold and streamed incredibly well around the world.

And no one cares if a minority consisting of One Direction fans thinks that Justin's songs this era all sound the same. At this point it's evident that you will try your hardest to undermine Justin's success in any way possible anyway.

WDYM, a single that had 1 month of hype and a huge radio deal, has only sold 200k more than Drag Me Down, a surprise single dropped out of nowhere, in the US.

The songs are using the same formula from WAUN. It's not hard to see. It doesn't make them bad songs (I loved WDYM when it first dropped and really like I'll Show You), but to say they're all different and don't have a lot of similarities is ludicrous.

[1989]

Originally posted by Harrys Hairflip

Telegraph uk, rolling stone, billboard, digital spy all gave 4/5 for MITAM but im sure purpose will be "better" boo

So? Just because it has 4/5 stars doesn't mean that everyone will think that MITAM is a better album. It's called having an opinion boo.

[Sheena]

Originally posted by hellocory

WDYM, a single that had 1 month of hype and a huge radio deal, has only sold 200k more than Drag Me Down, a surprise single dropped out of nowhere, in the US.

The songs are using the same formula from WAUN. It's not hard to see. It doesn't make them bad songs (I loved WDYM when it first dropped and really like I'll Show You), but to say they're all different and don't have a lot of similarities is ludicrous.

There's still no receipts to ''Drag Me Down'' selling 800k outside of the chart thread on ATRL in which the numbers are based on US estimates.

It's no where near those numbers with the tragic run it had on the charts.

[hellocory]

Originally posted by 1989

Pretty much.

Well duh. MITAM probably won't have any other singles, no tour, no promo after the first few weeks etc. while Purpose will have 4-5 singles, multiple videos, a tour, etc.

[1989]

Originally posted by hellocory

Well duh. MITAM probably won't have any other singles, no tour, no promo after the first few weeks etc. while Purpose will have 4-5 singles, multiple videos, a tour, etc.

Ok.