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Chart News: HDD: 375k for 'ARTPOP'
Member Since: 8/27/2012
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Originally posted by Ryan
1 million to 375K?
But I'm sure the monsters will make excuses. Apparently Katy selling more than TD but not breaking 300K is a flop; what does Gaga losing over 60% make her? I'll wait
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MTE, at least we can say Katy's only improved from era to era, not drastically declined
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Pink Friday and ARTPOP are going to open with around the same numbers
Lil Monsters Shall SEETHE
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by Luc
I can't at the hypocrisy on this forum.
Katy Perry, the "biggest star in the world" right now, with an absolute blockbuster of a massive hit (roar) moves 287k = That's pretty damn good for a singles artist!!!
Lady Gaga, the "flop who's career is over" with a mediocre top 10 hit (Applause) is predicted to move 375k = HORRIBLE!!! Karma for the monstas!!!
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Didn't they predict 500k for The 20/20 Experience a week before its official release and after the album went on sale, the predictions quickly escalated to 900k+?
Some of you need to just sit down and WAIT, those are only vague predictions based on the pre-orders (most probably), since the album hasn't even been shipped to stores yet.
Since the album has pretty much sold around 80,000 digital copies on iTunes by now and around some thousands on Amazon (considering it was #1 for several days and its still at #6 Overall, 1 month later), I don't think she won't even sell 300k physical copies. In case she doesn't, that would be kinda disappointing to be honest.
Anything above 400k is really good tough.
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Originally posted by DuckaDucka12
MTE, at least we can say Katy's only improved from era to era, not drastically declined
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We can also say that Gaga in her lowest point still sells a lot more than Katy during her peak. Funny, isn't it?
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Member Since: 12/30/2010
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BTW: 1,108,000
ARTPOP: 375,000
It would be so funny.
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Member Since: 6/7/2010
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Originally posted by Dr.Cake
We can also say that Gaga in her lowest point still sells a lot more than Katy during her peak. Funny, isn't it?
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Katy still can sell 5M with her singles but Gaga can't sell more than 90k than PRISM. Funny isn't it?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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y'all americans had better buy at least 2 copies each
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Oops. Y'all shouldn't have trolled Katheryn.
but this is good. The lower the expectations, the higher the results. I think Gaga can manage a little over 400k. We'll see.
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Originally posted by pabloanxiety
Katy still can sell 5M with her singles but Gaga can't sell more than 90k than PRISM. Funny isn't it?
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Gaga can still gross 120M more with her tours than Katy and I can still go on
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400k is amazing, still better than your fave.
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Member Since: 4/16/2011
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From 1.1 mil to 370k in 2 years.
Sorry but FLOP
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Member Since: 5/16/2012
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Originally posted by ebuc
From 1.1 mil to 370k in 2 years.
Sorry but FLOP
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It's a natural decline though... In general, most artists' opening weeks decline with each new album.
370k is an amazing number... especially when most albums by other stars can't even sell that much in a year...
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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The 'drop' excuse... still more than yo fave..
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Lefsetz take on sales these days
PRISM
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The album is dying in front of our very eyes.
In other words, what kind of crazy ****ed up world do we live in where Katy Perry’s new album “Prism” only sells 287,000 copies in its debut?
One in which everybody’s interested in the single, and no one’s got time to sit and hear your hour plus statement.
This is not emotion, this is statistics. The shelf life of news is shorter than ever. The shelf life of art… You blink and it’s done.
I’m fine with you preaching to the choir, making an album for your fans. You gotta go where you wanna go, do what you wanna do, with whomever…
But if your plan is to increase your audience, spread the word and make money, suddenly the album just isn’t working. The youngsters are streaming singles and the oldsters are staying home. How do I know? Elton’s album isn’t even in the Top Fifty and McCartney’s album barely broke 20,000 this week, and there wasn’t a better oldster hype than for these two projects. People just don’t want ‘em.
So what’s the industry to do?
Have a rethink.
In other words, hype doesn’t work.
No one had more hype than Miley Cyrus, but “Bangerz” didn’t even sell 45,000 copies this week. She can go on SNL, tweet her life away, but it’s not moving the needle. Lorde is selling as much as her without the benefit of scorched earth, proving that quality music is as good as hype, but…she’s not burning up the chart either.
We’ve turned into a nation of grazers. And the artist’s job is to constantly be at the smorgasbord. Not to deliver one big meal that is picked at and thrown away, but a constant presence in the public’s face.
Media cannot be limited to the album release date. It must be a 24/7, 365 day a year effort. Same with creativity. If your track gets traction, more power to you. If it doesn’t, go back in the studio and make more.
In other words, if you’re sitting at home bitching that you’re not making any money because the Internet stole your business you’re RIGHT! There are so many diversions that no one’s got time for mediocre anymore. They just want superior. As for piracy… If you think “Prism”‘s sales are low then you believe people are leaving AT&T Wireless because of Skype.
Yes, AT&T’s subscriber numbers are declining. Oh, they’ve got some new iPad accounts, but contract subscribers are moving on to the cheaper T-Mobile and the better Verizon. Castigate me all you want, but the statistics don’t lie.
Just like these album numbers.
If you’ve got a concept album, go ahead and record it. If you’re only interested in selling a little, be my guest. But if you want to penetrate the consciousness of a large group of people and grow the pie, an album isn’t working. Hell, it’s not even working as a revenue model!
Labels are no longer in the record business, they’re in the star business. How to maximize the revenue of an individual or band in as many media as possible, in as many ways as possible. Yes, while you were bitching about piracy your whole business model disappeared.
If music were the government it’d need a new hit. What I mean is the debt ceiling debate is history, the government needs a new hit single to stay in the public eye. But if it was run by musicians, they’d keep imploring people to read about the debt ceiling debate and the government shutdown. But the public has moved on.
You put out these albums and in almost every case, the public moves on in a matter of WEEKS! A few bought it, they heard it, and they’re satisfied, and left waiting for years until you grace them with a new release. The rest of the public is just waiting for a hit single to burble, and if it does, they’ll tap their toes and snap their fingers and ask WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU GOT?
And what you’ve got had better be just as good as the hit.
No one wants album tracks anymore. Not unless they’re every bit as satisfying as the hit.
So it’s not only classic rock acts who are no longer putting out albums, soon no one will do it. Oh, it won’t be soon, because artists think making albums is part of their DNA, going into the studio and making a ten track “statement.”
But that’s like saying typewriters have to be an office fixture. And you can’t post online unless you write in multiple paragraphs. And texting must be abandoned because it’s not in depth enough.
The goal of a musician is to be AHEAD of the audience.
Right now everybody’s behind.
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Member Since: 12/30/2010
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Originally posted by Aatthew
It's a natural decline though... In general, most artists' opening weeks decline with each new album.
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Not from 1,1M to 370k, sorry.
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Member Since: 1/4/2009
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Originally posted by Squall
Not from 1,1M to 370k, sorry.
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It still is natural.
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