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Celeb News: TMZ: Taylor fired Katy's dancers
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Originally posted by Squall
But yet she still agreed and hired them.  |
Right? They told her upfront what they were going to do why is she so mad and shocked at something they told her from the get-go. 
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
A Tay stan said there were only five days between the day they left and the next show. And did I see any news articles about Taylor's tour being sabotaged? Anything about bad dancers or a bad production? Nope, it went smoothly. Looks like Taylor's just stirring up **** as always, now that the time is right.  |
??? Because they managed to pull the show off, everything is fine?
Yall are just 
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Why are people doubting TMZ? lol. It's actually a reliable source.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
??? Because they managed to pull the show off, everything is fine?
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Um, yes. It is that simple. If they learned the choreo and did the show smoothly, everything is fine. Taylor doesn't even have anything to keep her up at night. 
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Oh lord, Taylors comments are so childish.
It is sad yet predictable that she would use Katy's name at this time to reinvent past incidents for her promotional gain. 
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The 3 Katy stans trying for dear life to cover up the damage before the song drops and obliterates Katy's career. 
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Because Taylor's team would hire dancers for only half of the tour
Acne Perry and her PR team work fast.
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Originally posted by Sinvius
The 3 Katy stans trying for dear life to cover up the damage before the song drops and obliterates Katy's career. |
The majority of people in this thread are siding with Katy tho
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Originally posted by Sinvius
The 3 Katy stans trying for dear life to cover up the damage before the song drops and obliterates Katy's career. |
Most people in here are siding with Katy though, not just her stans 
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Originally posted by Vine101
Because Taylor's team would hire dancers for only half of the tour
Acne Perry and her PR team work fast. |
People still acting like TMZ isn't reliable 
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Originally posted by Artemisia
1) I'm 90% sure the tour promoter would not let Taylor fire three dancers on a tour that was ongoing, just like that. It just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint.
2) I get they weren't supposed to be fired on the spot, according to the story. My point it that, again from a business standpoint, that it doesn't benefit anyone on Taylor's side by firing the dancers on the spot rather than using the 30 days given to find new dancers.
3) Because of the two points I outlined above, I don't think it makes any sense to believe this story 100%. I don't believe there was a 30 day agreement. If there was, we'd have to believe that Taylor, her management, and the tour promoters all acted against their best interests, which is ridiculous.
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And I don't believe there was any contract breach, or else her team would've sued.
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Originally posted by Sinvius
The 3 Katy stans trying for dear life to cover up the damage before the song drops and obliterates Katy's career. |
ddd @ the fact that you think this song is gon' do any damage to Katy's career bless your delusional soul.
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
what business standpoint? If taylor wants to fire her dancers, she can. Their paycheck is cut off immediately and the new dancers start getting paid. She isn't losing any money, aside from having to run extra rehearsals.
The 30 day agreement sounds very reasonable. Has there ever been a major tour ever without a single casting change throughout the entire run? Of course not. These terms have to be built into contracts so they casting changes are possible, because sometimes circumstances require them.
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??????? Losing 3 dancers during the middle of a tour is not a good thing. You need to make new arrangements for new dancers and all the things that come with it (auditions, advertisement, rehearsals, contracts, etc). All this takes precious time and money, and stops the production from going smoothly.
Yes, they managed to get everything in working order in such short notice, but at an additional cost that no one wants to pay. No one would WILLINGLY put themselves in that kind of situation, especially not a tour promoter with millions of dollars on the line.
Like, I don't understand how you guys think.
You expect me to believe that Taylor hired dancers under a 30 day agreement and fired them because she got angry at them for acting in accordance to a contract she agreed to? Do you really believe this? Honestly?
So stupid. Why don't you think critically and don't assume the story in the OP is 100% true?
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Originally posted by uhoh-ohno
And I don't believe there was any contract breach, or else her team would've sued.
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I agree. Something here does not make sense.
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Originally posted by uhoh-ohno
And I don't believe there was any contract breach, or else her team would've sued.
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Why, I totally forgot about this!
And it's even more proof Taylor fired her dancers. If she fired them she couldn't sue them for breach of contract. See how everything is fitting into place? Katy and her dancers are completely innocent here.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
1) I'm 90% sure the tour promoter would not let Taylor fire three dancers on a tour that was ongoing, just like that. It just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint.
2) I get they weren't supposed to be fired on the spot, according to the story. My point it that, again from a business standpoint, that it doesn't benefit anyone on Taylor's side by firing the dancers on the spot rather than using the 30 days given to find new dancers.
3) Because of the two points I outlined above, I don't think it makes any sense to believe this story 100%. I don't believe there was a 30 day agreement. If there was, we'd have to believe that Taylor, her management, and the tour promoters all acted against their best interests, which is ridiculous.
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It takes like a day to get new dancers. From a business point of view, the consequences of her firing them are minimal. Firing them does benefit Taylor: what if she was so upset thatthey were leaving HER for Katy that she couldnt bare have them around? That might effect her performance with them. So from a businesspoint of view getting rid of them because theyre upsetting the star seems like a reason that her managers would accept. Dancers are replaceable. If you read union contracts, you'll see that a 30 day notice is a pretty good deal. Some dancers work on a monthly or even weekly basis.
Another point: I'm sure Taylor and her team had back ups. In case one of the dancers got sick or something. So again they would've been easy to replace.
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Originally posted by Sinvius
The 3 Katy stans trying for dear life to cover up the damage before the song drops and obliterates Katy's career. |
Mess when most people in here think Katy is in the right But Taylor ain't gonna end Katy. The delusion
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Why, I totally forgot about this!
And it's even more proof Taylor fired her dancers. If she fired them she couldn't sue them for breach of contract. See how everything is fitting into place? Katy and her dancers are completely innocent here.
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You can't just FIRE people randomly to avoid a contract.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
It takes like a day to get new dancers. From a business point of view, the consequences of her firing them are minimal. Firing them does benefit Taylor: what if she was so upset thatthey were leaving HER for Katy that she couldnt bare have them around? That might effect her performance with them. So from a businesspoint of view getting rid of them because theyre upsetting the star seems like a reason that her managers would accept. Dancers are replaceable. If you read union contracts, you'll see that a 30 day notice is a pretty good deal. Some dancers work on a monthly or even weekly basis.
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Also, the minimal extra costs needed to bring in new dancers is nothing compared to canceling shows and entire legs. That's why the situation is believable. Also, again, I totally believe such a clause existed. How else would they facilitate casting changes? It's an important mechanism for making sure there are always going to be enough dancers to keep the tour running.
And Qwerty1234 knows his ****. Showbiz is showbiz and the show must go on. The whole system is designed so that the cast can be replaced with minimal discomfort.
Use critical thinking. Casting producers have to prepare for these kind of things, whether they like it or not.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
??????? Losing 3 dancers during the middle of a tour is not a good thing. You need to make new arrangements for new dancers and all the things that come with it (auditions, advertisement, rehearsals, contracts, etc). All this takes precious time and money, and stops the production from going smoothly.
Yes, they managed to get everything in working order in such short notice, but at an additional cost that no one wants to pay. No one would WILLINGLY put themselves in that kind of situation, especially not a tour promoter with millions of dollars on the line.
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They obviously would have had understudy dancers as replacements incase one of the dancers got injured or had to leave for personal issues.
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laksjdlasdsdsa and i thought this "feud" wasnt going anywhere. The way it blew up is impressive
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But, if Taylor truly knew that these dancers were going to stop once Katy Perry starts touring, why would she actually hire them.. it's like telling the McDonalds company that you will work for them until the new Burger King store is open, where you were already promised a job. I call ******** on the dancers actually letting Taylor know. What probably happened is that they tip toed around the issue, and then once they told Taylor about the news, Taylor gave no ****s.. it's a disrespect to Taylor, and her work. The main people at fault here are the dancers. Katy Perry has no fault (unless for some reason she encouraged the dancers to do this :toofunny), and Taylor did have the right to fire them, even of it kinda seems bitchy; but if you look at it as a business perspective, it's logical
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