The whole Obama-Duvall thing has to be the most desperate act of trying to
get a news story I've seen in a long time. Even the news casters on msnbc admitted that its a little stupid. When the guy he so called stole from, releases a statement saying they are friends and always trade lines, it shouldn't be a story anymore.
The whole Obama-Duvall thing has to be the most desperate act of trying to
get a news story I've seen in a long time. Even the news casters on msnbc admitted that its a little stupid. When the guy he so called stole from, releases a statement saying they are friends and always trade lines, it shouldn't be a story anymore.
Well it's quite unfortunate that he can't be more original...when his entire campaign consists of speeches and this one wasn't even his own idea. Also I find it pretty ridiculous that he compares himself to those great speeches of history - which, in fact, WERE more than just words, and it's despicable for him to indicate that he is on the same level as Dr. King or any of them.
I think it's more unfortunate that this campaign has turned into an entertainment ploy by the media. I keep thinking P. Diddy will fly down from the ceiling of the democratic convention and award the nominee a contract with Bad Boy. There are some serious issues that people should consider when voting for president, and all that ever comes up lately are pointless articles that spark more controversy and division than before. Houses are being foreclosed, people are losing their jobs and being screwed around by their health insurance company while the media sits around talking about who cried twice and who stole lines.
Now with that said, when you think his campaign just consists of speeches it's because you're not taking the time to read beyond what the media is feeding you. They will label Obama as a one trick pony because that's all they've got against him (Meanwhile republicans are gearing up their "Obama did drugs" campaign). They will say Hillary is using the "black card" to gain votes because it can turn a whole race against her. They will overshadow any candidate in the Republican race just to get a McCain vs. Romney fight in the headlines. They're making a load of money this year thanks to the oblivious people that think they know whats going on.
And I don't know where you got the indication that Obama was comparing himself to people like Dr. King. While it's an arguable assessment i'm sure Obamakins & Hillary lovers would spend time on, he was stating that speeches spark and inspire change. The great people that he spoke of used their verbal skills to gain support and make aware the issues they were trying to solve and therefore a speech that can bring record numbers of people together should not be disregarded as useless. And Obama has several years of experience that seems to be dusted under the rug when the media talks about him. The fact that he's new to the mainstream makes him an easy target to spin as "Completely New".
Now to anyone reading this, I'm not saying he will actually bring this change or that he's the better candidate because he could end up being a disaster as much as the other candidates can. I'm not an Obama spokesperson. I just think it would be less ignorant of people on this forum to do some research rather than be one sided about everything. All candidates have risks, faults and weaknesses. If you really care about the state of the country you'd stop focusing on Entertainment 2008, and start discussing real issues. Unless of coarse you guys here prefer to be one sided and the entertainment side makes up for the loss of your 24 and The Office TV Shows, and in that case I won't bring it up anymore.
I just found out that Obama's writer is the same guy who wrote for JFK.
No wonder they're so moving. Jaaaaaaaaa
So yeah, If Obama does get the nod which Im really hoping he doesnt. I'll still be supporting the Dems. But for now, Hillary all the ****ing way!
Athens, you do have some good point specially on your last paragraph. We should stop focusing about Entertainment 2008 but see that's where the problem is for me. That's whats driving Obama's campaign. And as a Hillary supporter, it drives me nuts knowing the person that could be the hope of this country not be giving the nomination all because of the media's drive for Obama. Not totally saying Obama would be bad, I just think Hillary is better personally. And it really sucks to know the media is really hurting Hillary's campaign so much and you know that. I guess it's so much harder to get dirt on a black man cause everything can turn into a racial issue. And I think media is scared of that so let's pick on Hillary.
Some of you might not agree with me but that's what Ive noticed with the media. TV, internet, newspaper, radio..
I guess it's so much harder to get dirt on a black man cause everything can turn into a racial issue. And I think media is scared of that so let's pick on Hillary.
I think Hillary has made some bad choices when it came to the "Billary" effect. This campaign really needs to be about her and the future and less about Bill and the past. A lot of the bad press has come from things Bill Clinton may have said, whether he meant it in that way or not, the media took it and made it way more than it should have been (Makes you wonder who's really running the political race). The fact that we've seen the largest turn out of all demographics this year indicates that America wants something different. Hillary would be a major change and also one that isn't so risky as Obama because of her 30+ years, but she hasn't promoted that as well as she could have. Instead she's focusing on experience only and saying to people who believe in hope from words, "It's useless".
But rest assured the Clintons have come out of tighter fights before and she still has a lot of talking points for the Democratic Convention despite losing the last 10 states. There is also a debate this Thursday which she happens to be very good at and this could gain her much needed momentum as Obama gains in Ohio and Texas.
As expected, Obama took Wisconsin tonight by a sizable margin. The Clinton camp may have been able to hold a tighter race there if they campaigned more in the state, but many Clinton officials were hesitant at first, already seeing it as a lost state.
At the time of writing this, Hawaii is a few hours away from closing but I think it's fair to say Obama has won it. I'd be shocked if he didn't because it's his birth place and the early polls showed that he was ahead by a large margin.
John McCain takes Wisconsin by 54% to 38%
Why am I even reporting on this? Huckabee, please fall back and accept your fate. Thanks
I just want to make a quick point. I have came across as very Anti-Obama and that is not the cass. I think that he a great. But in this time in America, we need a candidate that is seasoned to take these attacks and end the two wars we are currently in. Hillary is the best candidate left in race to end the wars and re-establish the good relationships with other countries that we used to have. I think Obama will be great for president after Hillary cleans up America. We are in no shape to take a chance on inexperience right now, not unless you want to live in poverty and have countries attacks American territory weekly.
LMAO! He loves copying his friend. Here's another, this time it's pretty much word for word! Literally!
It's such a shame that one of the main reasons millions of people are supporting him is because of his moving speeches. Come to find out some of them were taken from somewhere else. Who knows how much of his speeches are really original?
Good to see you guys talking about the issues for a change.
@Derek - You make a good point, but I question whether either of them would be good for the war in iraq. Lets do a little comparison here. Hillary wants to get the troops out of Iraq in the first 6 months of her becoming president, Obama I believe said the first 18 months and John McCain is known infamously for saying 100+ years. Even though Hillary used to be pro-war, Both Obama and Hillary now agree that the war was a mistake.
Many professional war analysts have been saying that it could be a big mistake pulling troops out without proper caution. If we extract prematurely, the last ones to leave will also have the least defense in case of another outbreak in violence. As far as I can see, Hillary is on the extreme left of the war wanting to pull troops out with a timeline that makes Anti-War Americans happy, Obama's is a little more thoughtful of the risks but it's still a timeline that doesn't assure a safe extraction, and McCain's is just well.... to the far far far right.
I'm curious to know what you guys think about this.
I'm just so proud of Hillary. Through out this whole election, she has stayed very strong. She's taken every punch left and right. Every negative thing thrown at her but she still keeps fighting. I have faith in this woman. If she doesn't win, I guess I'll just hope for the best.
Good to see you guys talking about the issues for a change.
@Derek - You make a good point, but I question whether either of them would be good for the war in iraq. Lets do a little comparison here. Hillary wants to get the troops out of Iraq in the first 6 months of her becoming president, Obama I believe said the first 18 months and John McCain is known infamously for saying 100+ years. Even though Hillary used to be pro-war, Both Obama and Hillary now agree that the war was a mistake.
Many professional war analysts have been saying that it could be a big mistake pulling troops out without proper caution. If we extract prematurely, the last ones to leave will also have the least defense in case of another outbreak in violence. As far as I can see, Hillary is on the extreme left of the war wanting to pull troops out with a timeline that makes Anti-War Americans happy, Obama's is a little more thoughtful of the risks but it's still a timeline that doesn't assure a safe extraction, and McCain's is just well.... to the far far far right.
I'm curious to know what you guys think about this.
Incorrect about Hillary saying she will have the troops out in the first 6 months. She said she would like to have them all out in the first year but that might not be possible with all civilians and translators there that assisted the US. She said she would have her military adviser draw her up a safe but time efficient plan.
LMAO! He loves copying his friend. Here's another, this time it's pretty much word for word! Literally!
It's such a shame that one of the main reasons millions of people are supporting him is because of his moving speeches. Come to find out some of them were taken from somewhere else. Who knows how much of his speeches are really original?
I'm just so proud of Hillary. Through out this whole election, she has stayed very strong. She's taken every punch left and right. Every negative thing thrown at her but she still keeps fighting. I have faith in this woman. If she doesn't win, I guess I'll just hope for the best.
Incorrect about Hillary saying she will have the troops out in the first 6 months. She said she would like to have them all out in the first year but that might not be possible with all civilians and translators there that assisted the US. She said she would have her military adviser draw her up a safe but time efficient plan.
Actually she wants to start pulling troops out within the first 60 days. And once that begins it should only take a few more months to get everyone out. http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/r.../view/?id=2354
But my question is more directed at how you guys view the war on iraq, and do you believe that a premature extraction is a wise decision by both Democratic Candidates.