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Originally posted by iamvladd
No one brought Kanye here. This is the Lil Wayne Thread. I simply made a comment about Lil Wayne going pop. The urban audience does not respect Usher as much any more. I hear everything you said about all them songs going #1 on Urban radios but when was this? 2009 and early 2010? I also would like to know his latest R&B singles and their peaks. Where did More peak? DJ Got Us Fallin In Love? Usher HAS gone pop. He's been talking about this new revolutionary sound he's creating. You think thats urban? No its going to be the same pop stuff he's been releasing. I dont even hate Usher but you coming at Kanye doesn't even make sense. And bye the way, All of the Lights went to #2 on Hip-Hop/R&B. And you talk as if the Soul Train Awards make any difference in society, they are equivalent to the EBT Awards. And also, Otis is climbing up the radio rapidly jumping 7 spots and 135 spins in ONE DAY ON URBAN RADIOS! May you please show me where Usher's song is on Urban charts. I can't seem to find it.
And with the Weezy>Kanye, everyone has their own opinion on who's better and I respect that. I am not pressed about Lil Wayne, have you seen me say a bad thing about the guy? I love him the same way I do with Kanye. I said I don't want him to go too pop cause the pop audience is not gonna go out and buy 1+ Million copies of an album for the first week from a rapper. You must be the pressed one because Usher's album has sold just as much as Kanye's last album and Kanye's was released in November. Also, tell me what did Usher get as an Metacritic score cause I know Kanye got a 94 out of 100.
And I'm done with you so you can DEAL.
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Usher's lastest singles were hits in every formats. The raymond vs raymonds IS OVER. He didn't promote anything since last year cause he WAS TOURING IN ARENAS ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
I talked about the soul trrain cause YOU TALKED ABOUT URBAN audience but he won grammy ,AMA,BBA as well. And usher's album sold more kanye actually and even more if you count the ep sales.
Call me when Kanye will be able again to headline his own tour again...
and for the rev pop thing he said that it was A MIX of different genres but you will have to wait till the release to judge.
And Usher could care less about metacritics he said several times that he is NO HIPSTER and that he could careless about critics and that he was making music to make people happy, to entertain people not to please rolling stone of pitchfork.
Kanye may have 94/100 on metacritics but the album was judge mediocre by the ultimate judge: the grammy commitee. His songs Power, runaway. were snubbed and usher took home to grammy this year.
You are just mad and I still think that you are pressed cause the CURRENT King of hip hop Lil wayne and the whole young money crew are shittin on the goodmusic crew. So you want to play the "he goes pop card".
Lil wayne has always been a versatile artist and even released a rock album. Accusing him of going pop just because there is 2 pop songs is just ridiculous.
Stop being pressed and wait for the Kanye/LMFAO album lol I'm sure that you won't call him a sell out
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Although I like Kanye I like Wayne better ! He's stronger lyrically
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Lil wayne is one of the best lyricist this is why Eminem collaborates with him. As far as kanye he is maybe a good producer but he can't write ish. Everybody knows that he don't write his songs himself they are written by cudi,common or big sean. Ryhmfest even him yesterday and said on twitter he wrote a song for him. THIS WHY WAYNE>KANYE even a pop WAYNE>KANYE.
And there is nothing wrong with doing a song with dr luke even eminem and t.i did it and the song was awesome.