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Originally posted by Artemisia
1) This is just as much a black power flag as it is an LGBT flag. Stop seeing it as just a flag for LGBT people who happen to be black, but also a flag for Black people who happen to be LGBT. With that being said, are those who stand behind this flag separating themselves from the black community? Don't you see how foolish that argument is?
2) It's supposed to be racially free? Nothing is racially free. See, this is the issue. You and many others don't understand the degree to which race shapes people's experiences in all aspects of their lives, including being LGBT. Identities interlock, you can't separate them and consider them within a vacuum. Black Trans people are under crisis in the United States. And telling them to fall back in line with their white Trans peers for the sake of "unity" rather than standing up and making themselves heard is NOT going to help them.
3) "Hold events. Ask for more inclusion" Black LGBT people have been doing this, and will never stop doing this. Remember when BLM protested Toronto Pride and our lovely white LGBT allies met that action with gushing support?  |
1) No, because while they're different from the LGBT community based on race, they're also different from the black community based on sexuality. This flag wasn't made in protest of the homophobia within the black community and you know that. This selective targeting is counterproductive.
2) I said the flag is racially free. Nothing to do with the community itself. The flag simply means the freedom to love whoever you want. Stop trying to amend it with some other agenda. I'm not asking anyone in particular to fall in line. I'm asking the entire community to work together and that, of course, includes their white peers owing them an open heart and mind to speak up on their issues that differ from everyone else's issues in the US.
3) BLM is exactly what I'm talking about. It's one of the most counterproductive groups in the US. They had one job which is to raise awareness of racially charged police brutality and they've managed to fail miserably at that. With better organization and more openness to cooperation, they'd have reached Capitol Hill by now. They're not even sure how they wanna treat the name "Black Lives Matter". Does it mean that black lives matter in all situations? Then in that case, why is All Lives Matter supposed to be such a problem? And if BLM is simply about cops shooting unarmed black men (Which it should be) then only in that case All Lives Matter is a problematic thing. You can't, as a black person, twist BLM's meaning based on your mood and go disrupt an LGBT rally. Last time I checked, LGBT weren't going around shooting unarmed black men.
If you want to hold events, hold town halls and make people want to get on your side. This "You're so white so automatically you're evil because you're privileged" attitude has proven to be a complete failure and it amazes me that leftists still can't see that.
PS: Trump became the very first republican to lose educated whites which means that's a group that is willing to listen and you can easily sway to your team with better organization and cooperation. Uneducated whites are the only ones who are hopeless as far as intersectionality is concerned. Work with what you're given if you want to achieve a goal and stop protesting simply for the sake of protesting.
