Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season - Page 2474

Radiance

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Originally posted by Retro

Also, in case y'all missed this...

This, along with Bernie's statements that it's up to Hillary to win over his supporters, not up to him to give them to her, makes it seem like something is up.

Jill Stein is an attention seeker.

Sander's campaign (particularly his wife) has been very vocal that they won't run outside the Democratic platform. He's not going to give the GOP a shot.

What Sander's is doing through his veiled threats is trying to set up a platform for him to bargain with Clinton. He's trying to dictate the agenda by hanging BernieorBust over her head, so that she'll agree to endorse some of his plans.

I do think he'd accept VP, tbh, just to have a bigger hand in steering the Democratic Party's future.

BoyOnBoy Wonder

Jill Stein won't be a threat. The only third party threat would be if we get a contested convention on the GOP side which leads to Donald Trump forming a viable 'Freedom Party,' thus ensuring the nail in the coffin of any right-leaning person winning the White House.

Skywalker

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol Apr 28
Indiana Benchmarks done. Clinton 50.5% - Sanders 49.5%. Writeups to come from @icoggins1. Sneak peek at counties.

Brian Howey
‏@hwypol
INPrez: Hillary Clinton to campaign in Indianapolis on Sunday. Details coming . . .

This could be fun.

ezra

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Originally posted by Retro

Oh, Ezra. Really? You're going to straight up lie to us? Very well.

The following text, posted by you, lacks any citations or links whatsoever:

What in there actually needs a citation? Is it not known that Hillary called certain americans super predators? Is it not common knowledge that single mothers do not have as positive outcomes as 2 parent households? What is it you're objecting to?

You're just sealioning for the sake of distracting the argument. You need to tell me what it is you're objecting to before I am going to be posting anything because I know that if I pick what I think needs to be backed up you'll just respond with, "I need more

" until infinity.

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Originally posted by Retro

The following was the only material for which you provided any sources:

Nevermind how the first two lack any discussion of anything more than surface-level statistics and fail to support any of your subsequent claims.

Prove it?

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Originally posted by Retro

Nevermind how you completely misconstrued the second to fit your anti-feminist (and by extension, anti-equity and anti-equality) agenda. You cited these!

Whew at the conjecture

Again, I don't understand how I "misconstrued" any of those points (or even what points you're contesting if we're going to get all technical). It's you making that claim and the onus is on you to prove it, Retro

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Originally posted by Retro

I expect some sort of substantial corroboration of the rest of your claims before I rebut later

Fine. The master's thesis/scalp is coming. So long as I know what it is you're objecting to so we can't change the goalposts

ezra

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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

He is what happens when we let 4chan posters out of their basements and into the real world.

I feel personally attacked by this.

BoyOnBoy Wonder

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Originally posted by ezra

I feel personally attacked by this.

You should (as should all members of this whole niche millennial alt-right quasi-"movement").

ezra

The tyranny

This is what it must've felt like to be gay in the 50s. Everyone out to demonize you for your opinion. I must be strong!

As a Gaga fan I'm used to this kind of bigotry. I feel bad for other Trumpers who are too scared to face the bullying tactics like these (I think I'm the only person in this entire thread repping for the entire other side of these arguments?

). Echo chamber and confirmation bias teas.

BoyOnBoy Wonder

To compare this crap to the red scare and post-Victorian era homophobia...

No one is telling you you can't have an opinion. I'm simply responding to the stupidity of the reactionary millennial neocon mess. Freedom of speech applies to both parties involved (and also can allow one to feel embarrassed by having a dead wrong opinion.

Ezekiel

Seeing Bernie tomorrow!

BoyOnBoy Wonder

"the world is 2 pc ppl shuldnt be allowed to chastize me for being a racist and a sexist and a xenophobe."

BoyOnBoy Wonder

And btw - there's a great deal of irony in comparing those criticizing your archaic opinions to the red scare considering that set of events was perpetuated by the right wing.

ezra

Instead of just calling me and others stupid, racist, sexist and xenophobic (I'm none of these things) it might do you well to be able to argue your reasons for why you think that's the case

BoyOnBoy Wonder

Well, to start, your "hero" in your avi referred to the belief in the equality of the sexes as a "cancer of the earth."

ezra

Feminism is not about the equality of the sexes

It's about demonizing men as rapists, privileged, evil and oppressors of women. It's about social engineering with bizarre positions on free speech. Feminists literally think that video games make people sexist like how creationists thought they made people more violent (they don't; violent crimes have plummeted since the 1990s when video games were popularized). Feminism is so objectionable and you just accept it at face value on some emotional appeal

edit: Oh. Here's the citation in case the citation police show up http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...nce-the-1990s/

Ramcoro

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Originally posted by ezra

You're still holding on to it. "Solely". As if I'm even partly responsible for other peoples lives because I was born white.

This is really what sums up our disconnect.

To put it bluntly, this isn't about you. I don't know you. I have no idea what you do, or what your actions. You could be the most anti-racist person, or very racist. I don't know. I haven't seen what you do or say in real. If you keep spewing the non-sense about black people being lazy and bad parents, then that would contribute to racial stereotypes, which is recreating racism. (I said if, im not accusing you). If you don't do that then great!

Anyways, racism is about how society is dealing black people a bad hand. It's not about what you did.

The United States has enslaved black people for hundreds of years. Then another hundred years of Jim Crow laws. Do you really everything suddenly became perfect in the 1960s after the civil rights act? You think racism magically went away? Like POOF. It's easy to change policy. It's hard to change people's minds. Racist spool that grew up before the 60s aren't dead yet, and they taught racism to their kids, which taught it to their kids, and so on and so forth.

I'm not saying that is your fault. You didn't cause slavery. You didn't cause Jim Crow. I don't know how I can make any more clear that's it not about you.

I didn't do any of this either. But I truly believe we as society are morally obligated to do something about it.

You think Trump will fix this? You think he has a magic wand that will get rid of the PC/SJW/BLM or whatever you want to call us? You think that will solve all your problems? You think Trump will bring about fair funding for public schools? You think Trump can stop premarital pregnancy? You think Trump can Trump stop divorce? Trump doesn't even know what he's talking about 1/2 the time, if not the whole time! People ask him questions, then he rambles on some random tangent that is loosely connected to the question or not connected at all. Trump isn't going to fix ****.

BoyOnBoy Wonder

The definition of feminism is the belief in the equality of the sexes, no matter what GamerGate trash insists.

Dessy Fenix

Yall still talking to him/her?

ezra

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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

The definition of feminism is the belief in the equality of the sexes, no matter what GamerGate trash insists.

No, it is absolutely not. Feminism is the root of all this crazy SJW "safe space", "trigger warning", b.s. on campuses. Believing in women's rights (women have all their rights anyway) =/= feminism no matter what Beyonce and Emma Watson say.

Ramcoro

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Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

Yall still talking to him/her?

If we don't addres people like him, then they will never change or learn.

BoyOnBoy Wonder

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Originally posted by ezra

No, it is absolutely not. Feminism is the root of all this crazy SJW "safe space", "trigger warning", b.s. on campuses. Believing in women's rights (women have all their rights anyway) =/= feminism no matter what Beyonce and Emma Watson say.

Open a dictionary.