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Celeb News: Fifth Harmony release new statement
Member Since: 6/6/2011
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This "toxic environment" thing 
Literally fanfictions
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Where's the proof that it ended? 
She got out of it. There are ways. |
every publication is saying her contract ENDED. you are playing guilty until proven innocent.
http://www.justjared.com/2016/12/19/...ontract-ended/
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Camila was bullied. The evidence is overwhelming. She didn't belong in that toxic group. And she left when her contract ended and didn't bother showing up to those sorry "pls stay with us we need u" meetings which doesn't make her a bad person. 
yall want to force her to stay in that band  everyone could tell there was so much tension and each member wanted to go solo. dont lie to yourselves.
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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4h getting backed up by everyone and all camila has is shawn
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Originally posted by Dark Horse
yall want to force her to stay in that band everyone could tell there was so much tension and each member wanted to go solo. dont lie to yourselves. |
everyone is celebrating the fact that she left so nobody is forcing anything sweetie
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Not sure if you're even aware of what you did, but you said the same source a million different ways 
5H management = 5H essentially
TMZ sources = 5H loyal
"All other members" = 5H themselves
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5H management is not 5H its their management team, what the hell does 5H loyal even mean and I also said all of social media.
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by Exzime.
Y'all should know that if they don't click, they don't click. It's simple as that. No matter how hard you try to go for a group counselling, it just doesn't work It's a toxic environment for Camila. So there's no point in trying to attack her like this. |
Why not at least try though? Isn't that the entire point of counselling? Attempting to get to the root issues and then figure out ways to overcome them? Counselling as a general practice wouldn't exist if it hasn't proven effective in many situations.
It just doesn't add up. If the only reason she left was because she was in a "toxic environment", it really doesn't make any sense why she wouldn't at least try some counselling or group therapy. Throwing away your spot in a group that just had two massive global smashes and finished a multi-continental tour all because you don't believe in practices that are proven to be effective is completely illogical, and I do believe above all else that Camila is a very logical person.
This is just one of the reasons why many people doubt this "toxic environment" argument (not to mention the fact that nobody has presented any evidence not in GIF form to support it.)
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Inspiration4 and Dark Horse truly trying it and getting shut down every time 
Camila started neglecting the girls. The girls tried to see what's up. She ignored them. They started neglecting her back.
They have every right to do so. She's not Beyonce. They don't need her ass. They only did it for the fans.
By the way, no, we're not begging for Camila's ass to stay we're just pissed about how much of a manipulative liar she happened to be. It's not because she left the group, it's about the way she did so.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Dark Horse
every publication is saying her contract ENDED. you are playing guilty until proven innocent.
http://www.justjared.com/2016/12/19/...ontract-ended/
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Camila was bullied. The evidence is overwhelming. She didn't belong in that toxic group. And she left when her contract ended and didn't bother showing up to those sorry "pls stay with us we need u" meetings which doesn't make her a bad person.
yall want to force her to stay in that band everyone could tell there was so much tension and each member wanted to go solo. dont lie to yourselves. |
These fan fiction stories, I just can't.
There is ZERO evidence to support your claim. There is, however, overwhelming evidence to support the claim that she caused the other girls SO much drama, did so many things behind their backs, didn't care about the group, separated herself from them to pursue a solo career without telling them, lying to them, etc.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Starkboy
This "toxic environment" thing
Literally fanfictions |
I'm blaming both sides here. Excuse you. It is wrong for Camila to do a side project and they have a right to be mad at her for that. BUT it is also wrong for them to hold a lengthy grudge over her when she's still in the group.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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They used the wrong piece.
Get ready for statement 3
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Starships
Okay then WHY DID SHE HAVE TO BE SO EXTRA AND IGNORE THEM?
WHY DIDN'T SHE COME TO ALL THOSE MEETINGS AND SAY UPFRONT "I DONT WANT TO BE A PART F 5H ANYMORE"?
It's her right to not want to be in the group anymore, but she doesn't have the right to be such a pathetic liar and unprofessional.
Okay Dark Horse, ever asked yourself WHY did the girls start to ~dislike~ her?
It's alright, I'll give you the rundown:
She released a duet without anyone else knowing, leaving the girls confused about her loyality. Nothing wrong with releasing it, just why so sketchy about it?
She said the release was totally unplanned for and it happened out of nowhere.
She gets hacked and it's exposed that she's been messaging with Charlie all along to plan to launch her solo career, alongside plans for IKWYDLS. She LIED about the collaboration being "totally unplanned for" and "organic and out of nowhere!111" This is a huge red flag that this person is the kinda person that loves to play the victim and is fake as ****.
She neglects the girls in every single event. She STARTED being shady.
She gets hacked again that she apparently wanted to punch Ally in the face.
Further neglect. The girls started neglecting back.
Then the Normani "quirky" fiasco. Where Camila stans bullied Normani with racist **** to hell and back to the point where she took a break of social media and it got bad that even Camila herself had to sit her stans down by keeping it SO vague. "Promote love only please thanks111<3"
And now she lies yet AGAIN with Billboard and credible insiders backing the four girls up that yes, she completely played the victim card. It's backfiring so much on her. And look, I get that you always want to root for the dark horse (no pun intended) / the black duck / the "weak" one but in this case this backlash is not coming out of nowwhere. Some of you think we are pressed that she left the group, we're pissed about HOW she did it. |
nnn I forgot about this. The other 3 girls posted messages specifically talking about it and specifically supporting Normani. Camila just posted a vague "I don't condone hate!"
Also, the fact that she hasn't posted anything about the group, group pictures, etc in forever.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Exzime.
I'm blaming both sides here. Excuse you. It is wrong for Camila to do a side project and they have a right to be mad at her for that. BUT it is also wrong for them to hold a lengthy grudge over her when she's still in the group.
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It's not like she apologized and came to her senses though. She KEPT going that direction, planning new solo releases, promoting them, etc.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Starships
Inspiration4 and Dark Horse truly trying it and getting shut down every time
Camila started neglecting the girls. The girls tried to see what's up. She ignored them. They started neglecting her back.
They have every right to do so. She's not Beyonce. They don't need her ass. They only did it for the fans.
By the way, no, we're not begging for Camila's ass to stay we're just pissed about how much of a manipulative liar she happened to be. It's not because she left the group, it's about the way she did so. |
whew the tea is scalding with this post. on that note I'm done for the day but lets see what tomorrow brings. 
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's not like she apologized and came to her senses though. She KEPT going that direction, planning new solo releases, promoting them, etc.
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Exactly. When someone does something to hurt you, shows absolutely no remorse for it, and then continues to do that hurtful thing, resenting that person isn't an unfair "grudge", it's natural human reaction to being mistreated 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It's not like she apologized and came to her senses though. She KEPT going that direction, planning new solo releases, promoting them, etc.
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I feel like they already had a huge argument and it didn't settle it properly. I believe both side had a huge ego and not one of them were able to mediate the conflict. I'm sure they became awkward. Camila was already done by then trying to mend the relationship hence she insisted on promoting her solo career, so when the girls tried to persuade her for the group counselling to possibly "fix" the problem, Camila probably was not having iT, cause she already gave up much earlier.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Dark Horse
every publication is saying her contract ENDED. you are playing guilty until proven innocent.
http://www.justjared.com/2016/12/19/...ontract-ended/
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Camila was bullied. The evidence is overwhelming. She didn't belong in that toxic group. And she left when her contract ended and didn't bother showing up to those sorry "pls stay with us we need u" meetings which doesn't make her a bad person.
yall want to force her to stay in that band everyone could tell there was so much tension and each member wanted to go solo. dont lie to yourselves. |
Ok sis if you have no values, good luck in life. Time for manner school.
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Dont get how people think Camilla wont be a successful solo artist after all this?
Her new "squad" has more pull and power than 5H ever did. I mean, being co-signed by taylor is almost guaranteed to get her liked by more people who don't care about 5H.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Camila isn't on audio crying about management tho.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Ahhh not them SCALPING her. I knew she was so desperate for her solo career but I had no idea she lied multiples times.
Btw Can someone link me/pm me her hacked messages?
Also Billboard is siding with 4H? Oh WOW
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Pretty Lady
Camila isn't on audio crying about management tho.
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That's completely irrelevant though...that's old audio about their old management, that they had issues with.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by shelven
Exactly. When someone does something to hurt you, shows absolutely no remorse for it, and then continues to do that hurtful thing, resenting that person isn't an unfair "grudge", it's natural human reaction to being mistreated |
It's definitely not an unfair grudge, shelven. But common sense here, if you're gonna be a group might as well work it out. And I believe both parties did try to work it out much earlier, but it escalated the problem even further. So when they tried to work it out again, it's already too late because the previous attempt on trying to fix it took a huge toll.
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