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Station: MTV U.S. Discussion Thread
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The reason Urban music rules TRL is because urban music RULES the US Charts period.
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Member Since: 10/19/2004
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Originally posted by JGibson
I don't even watch TRL anymore due to this, and boycotted the show live due to its recent anti-Alternative/Rock bias on its Top 10. BTW, Paramore was screwed out of retirement and was on 40 days, yet they let Flo Rida and Soulja Boy retire for 35+ days? Unfair. Well, at least the JRL Top 20 is the real old-school TRL that is votes-only instead of other **** added on to the votes, and screws over Rap (esp. Gangsta, Soulja Boy/T-Pain-type rap) purposely in protest of the show's pro-Rap/Urban/Hip-Hop/R&B bias, and is the most Rock/Alternative-leaning of the Multi-genre vote-based c/ds. The regular countdowns twice a week thing is good to a certain extent, but from the TRL P/ds standpoint, it is a terrible idea to do as it wreaks havoc with the p/ds.
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It's sad you tried to advertise your horribly biased countdown, in your response about how horrible the new "urban inspired TRL format"  Your countdown is as biased as TRL has been lately, so you pretty much made a insignificant post. Face it; with TRL's ultra ****** new format, it's based on the charts and downloads; and Urban Music is at the forefront. Even if TRL premieres all these rock videos, unless they're garnering pop airrlay & downloads ("crushcrushcrush", "Nine In The Afternoon"), they probably won't crack the Top 10. I'm not saying any genre is better than the other because everyone has different taste in music, but Tiearra & Yankee made TWO great points:
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Originally posted by Yankee
The truth is that variety doesn't exist anywhere anymore. It is not just TRL. There seems to be no such thing as variety anymore.
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Originally posted by Tiearra
The reason Urban music rules TRL is because urban music RULES the US Charts period.
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Member Since: 6/2/2006
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http://www.mtv.com/ontv/dyn/trl/the_vent.jhtml
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Welcome to The Vent, where we want your feedback about "Total Request Live!" Wanna recommend celebrity guests? Have ideas for new segments? Sick of seeing videos featuring the Soulja Boy dance? This is your moment to sound off. TRL has always been about the fans, and The Vent gets you and your opinions closer to us than ever before. TRL producers will read and respond to everything you submit, and our VJs will answer your questions live on the air. So please, don't hold back. Whether you love what we're doing or have the perfect idea for how to make TRL even better, start venting now!
Make sure you check back soon for an updated site with your responses!
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Member Since: 8/7/2006
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Originally posted by DanieleDonato#1
I still blame Damien for this, he had to have had some influence. Why do you think He Said She Said was doing well in the first place? They changed the format because of her run.
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Moron. Seriously, shut up with that ******** and face the facts: Hip. Hop. Is. Popular. Just. Cause. You. Don't. Like. It. Doesn't. Mean. Everyone. Else. Does. 
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Member Since: 1/19/2006
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JRL Top 20 (Oct. 2007-Mar.2008):
Rap/Urban/Hip-Hop/R&B: 0.45%
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Well obviously that number is gonna be low. Only 3 rap songs on the voting list, and you have dozens of songs for other genres. Doesn't leave many options for urban music does it?
BTW, The Vent idea is good, but i doubt it'll do anything for TRL
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Member Since: 6/7/2007
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BTW JGibson I think TRL retired Chris Brown today,I caught the end of their show to see who was todays #1 and heard them say it's retired.Just letting you know in case you didn't so that way people can predict and guess who'll be #1 in the Prediction Thread and also so that way you can post it in the recap thread.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 12/21/2002
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Originally posted by Idol_Maniac
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Submitted my two cents. 
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Member Since: 1/14/2007
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^ I just went ahead and gave my 2 cents as well.
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Member Since: 10/5/2005
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Originally posted by Idol_Maniac
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Good! > : ] I'd like to give them the full truth, as a mostly-fallen/former-TRL fan (by their doing), they need it! And I'm not even going to mention their contradictive video retirments.
This is my little bit of Spring Break homework.
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Member Since: 8/2/2006
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Originally posted by Link
BTW JGibson I think TRL retired Chris Brown today,I caught the end of their show to see who was todays #1 and heard them say it's retired.
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They said that he retired, but I don't know if they really meant it cuz let's face it, it's TRL nowadays. They didn't even do anything special for it, they just played the vid, no recap or special flashback of the song, just the vid being played.
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Member Since: 7/5/2007
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Originally posted by mariah_4life
They said that he retired, but I don't know if they really meant it cuz let's face it, it's TRL nowadays. They didn't even do anything special for it, they just played the vid, no recap or special flashback of the song, just the vid being played. |
Just like Crushcrushcrush!
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Member Since: 7/25/2006
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 . Are they counting votes again? because that is what the girl VJ said... and ashanti #6 <3
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Member Since: 11/4/2006
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Originally posted by Lukitoo
Just like Crushcrushcrush!
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Crushcrushcrush didn't retire though, it looks like today, the are doing the top 10 based only on the TRL votes, this is how it should be & MTV .com the Vent I might post my complaint
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Member Since: 2/26/2006
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Break The Ice debuting!!! 
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 7/23/2007
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They showed both the votes + others stuff at the very beginning (which is the one that counts for p/ds), and finally, they did show the votes-only top 10.
It needs to be back to votes only!
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Member Since: 1/11/2006
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OMG They showed the votes-only top 10
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Member Since: 10/10/2005
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i kinda prefer the votes-only top 10. 30stm at #4! that's awesome!
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Member Since: 7/25/2006
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Originally posted by Idol_Maniac
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I guess that worked, keep complaining
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Member Since: 6/2/2006
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I was going to submit this to the Vent, but it said "collection is null".
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Hey!
My name is Andy, I'm 16, and I'm from Missouri. I began watching TRL in June 2003 and watched it daily until January 2006, when it was moved to an earlier time slot. Since then, I've only seen the last 5-10 minutes of it, except on my days off of school and during the summer. I'm going to be brutally honest. The show had been going downhill for quite some time and, since October 2007, it has been at rock bottom. Had it "always been about the fans", as you say, it wouldn't be in the position it is now. I was actually thinking the show was a lost cause, but the "vent" has given me some hope. My idea to make TRL better is essentially a renaissance - to go back to its roots (the music and the fans). My recommendations, which are basically just reversals of the negative changes, are as follows...
> 5 days-per-week
> 50-day retirement rule
> 90-minute shows
> Only TRL votes factor
> Former VJs as guest hosts (i.e. Carson, Brian, Stephen, Susie, etc.)
> Less hiatuses
> Live, not taped
> Mid-late afternoon/early evening time slot
> New graphics and set
> Phone voting
> Spring break and summer locations
Thank you for your consideration,
ATRL.net member and former fan
P.S. As cheesy as it may sound, TRL use to be the highlight of my day and was what I looked forward to after school. I especially loved Spankin' New Music Week. I would love for the show to turn things around and make it to its 10th-year anniversary in September.
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Member Since: 12/21/2002
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What I sent last night was brief, but I mentioned how the vote-based top ten and statistics were the main reason I continued to check recaps after 2005... suggesting they start posting the real top ten on MTV Overdrive everyday. Looks like they sort of listened today.  Maybe it's a start.
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