[JClarkSTAN]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

The original, FLAWLESS cover? The one that would have sold 80k minimum first week instead of 50?

Yes the flawless original. Her staff probably googled that **** and chose that one over the official one. lol

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Addicted

The cover wouldn't have changed anything. Born This Way anyone?

It's all about promo / hype / lead single success.

The lies. I'm a stan and I'm embarrassed to be seen holding that filth. I'd be waving around the other one

Also, I don't wanna post the GH on my Facebook because people will drag her appearance. If I could post the flawless one, it would be at least 1 more sale somewhere. So, it would at least change the sales by 1.

Also, what is Born This Way? That sounds like a flaw filled title for something.

Originally posted by JClarkSTAN

Yes the flawless original. Her staff probably googled that **** and chose that one over the official one. lol

[JClarkSTAN]

Tbh, I don't think most of the general public sees anything wrong with the cover. I showed it to my friend and she was like "omg she looks amazing*. Two of my co-workers said the same thing. I think we were just being overly critical. (as usual lol)

[KevinKDC]

Just saw the thread. Duca seriously needs to get banned.

MJ that was some flawless ****ing dragg don't let kall see it though

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Addicted

So you think if Red had a **** cover it wouldn't have sold over a million?

So you think if BTW had a good cover it would have sold way more?

The delusion. The album's predicted 50k because of promo and hype, not because of a tiny picture in the center of her album cover, which isn't even that bad compared to a lot of other pictures of her out there.

Red would have sold 800k and BTW at least 1.5 mil.


No, I'm kidding. But really, I DO think an attractive cover would have attracted some extra people to look at it, but ultimately wouldn't make much of a difference. 51k instead of 50

I think Kelly will outdo HDD's prediction though

They based their predictions off one day sales and many people said they had trouble finding the album on Monday at major retailers. Even Kelly thought it was out Tuesday. So I think hopefully the numbers will increase a little, plus if they didn't take Black Friday's sales into consideration, it could be more.

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Addicted

Exactly, the general public won't not buy an album because of a little picture on a cover, they buy it for the music.

Changing Kelly's pose on the cover won't suddenly boost the album from 50k to 80

Sometimes ATRL can be way too much

Omg, you should know not to take me THAT seriously by now

I'm just being a smartass because I absolutely HATE that fugly cover.

[Mzd]

I actually love the cover now that I have it physically. It fits great and looks so much better then in pictures online.

[joelovesmusic]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

So barely even an interview on Ellen?

Not here for that. The queen deserved at least 10 minutes.

Ellen is on my list.

Last year it was a 4 minute interview I believe (talk about Yoga & the new album I believe), so the fact that she at least got an interview is fantastic. Jimmy Fallon, Leno & the other late night people have to take notes lol The last time KC had a late night interview in the US was in 2007 (Jimmy Kimmel) I believe

[MJ Boston]

I hope we get a late night appearance somewhere. I'll be happy with even a 2 minute interview

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Addicted

I don't think we will go over predictions tbh, we're still at #24 on iTunes, last week nobody in the 20-30 range sold over 26k.

I know it's the sale week etc but I think we should make 40-50k that's about it.

Raining on my optimism parade

As long as it's not less than 40k.

[MJ Boston]

I did some digging to last year's Black Friday sales week:

CHART DATE: 11/28/2011
LAST UPDATE: 11/29/2011 14:09:58
NOW IN: FINAL


LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 225,325 --
HERE AND NOW
2 2 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 218,815 +29%
CHRISTMAS
-- 3 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 197,040 --
TALK THAT TALK
1 4 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 173,618 -74%
TAKE CARE
-- 5 MARY J. BLIGE GEFFEN 164,700 --
MY LIFE II-THE JOURNEY CONTINUES
5 6 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 140,151 +66%
UNDER THE MISTLETOE
3 7 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 138,465 +21%
21
-- 8 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA 130,015 --
BREAK THE SPELL
15 9 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 89,522 +181%
CLEAR AS DAY
9 10 COLDPLAY CAPITOL/EMI 82,767 +53%
MYLO XYLOTO
-- 11 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 77,256 --
SPEAK NOW WORLD TOUR LIVE
-- 12 BIG TIME RUSH NICKELODEON/COLUMBIA 72,167 --
ELEVATE
7 13 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 40 CAPITOL/EMI 67,251 -1%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
23 14 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIV REPUBLIC 62,790 +147%
THA CARTER IV
39 15 THE BAND PERRY REPUBLIC NASHVILLE 56,986 +264%
THE BAND PERRY
36 16 LMFAO INTERSCOPE 56,419 +231%
SORRY FOR PARTY ROCKING
4 17 ANDREA BOCELLI DECCA 54,362 -38%
CONCERTO: LIVE IN CENTRAL PARK
-- 18 BOB SEGER & THE SILVER BULLET BA CAPITOL/EMI 52,118 --
ULTIMATE HITS: ROCK & ROLL NEVER
8 19 TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING DAWN CHOP SHOP/ATLANTIC 51,791 -24%
SOUNDTRACK
-- 20 MAROON 5 A&M/OCTONE 50,637 --
HANDS ALL OVER
-- 21 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 47,125 --
BORN THIS WAY
16 22 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 45,681 +45%
OWN THE NIGHT
-- 23 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 45,214 --
IMMORTAL
20 24 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 42,554 +59%
STRONGER
-- 25 YELAWOLF GHET-O-VISION/SHADY/INTER 41,826 --
RADIOACTIVE



I think she'll debut right around the #17-#20 range.. so yeah, that would be right around 50k since I think numbers have been comparable to last year so far this year.

[KevinKDC]

Originally posted by Addicted

Hmm interesting.

I'm expecting 35-40K is more realistic then ?

I would actually up the prediction to be honest. We have no idea how big Black Friday will be. I'm almost positive the Hits prediction will go up a lot after Friday.

I'm thinking 60k to be honest.

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Addicted

Hmm interesting.

I'm expecting 35-40K is more realistic then ?

I don't know, maybe. Thank god for the AMA performance. I was checking to see if the AMA's were the week of Black Friday release last year and it was. So no extra boost or anything because of them this year. Should be comparable numbers. If they just had the album at $9.99 it would be better. $11.99 is a little much for a GH.. that could be the difference between the 35k-40k range and 40-50k range.

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by KevinKDC

I would actually up the prediction to be honest. We have no idea how big Black Friday will be. I'm almost positive the Hits prediction will go up a lot after Friday.

I'm thinking 60k to be honest.

I'm sure they already inflated numbers due to Black Friday though. It is impossible to know how Black Friday will go.. so it can still go either way.. but I expect them to be relatively close. I hope more though.

[North & South]

@RCARecords
.@Shazam one of @kelly_clarkson's songs off #GreatestHitsChapterOne for a chance to see her perform! More details here: http://bit.ly/TaoqSa

One (1) winner will receive:
- Two (2) tickets to attend a Kelly Clarkson concert in 2013 in the continental United States (“Concert”) (exact date and location of Concert to be determined at the sole discretion of the Sponsor);
- Two (2) round trip airline tickets (economy coach class) from the major airport nearest winner’s home to a Concert-area airport (as determined at the sole discretion of the Sponsor). If the winner lives within One Hundred (100) miles of the Concert city, as determined at the sole discretion of the Sponsor, Sponsor may substitute ground transportation instead of air transportation;
- Transportation to and from the hotel, airport and the Concert; and
- One (1) night’s hotel accommodation (standard, one room, double occupancy) in or around the Concert city.
http://www.kellyclarkson.com/us/news...official-rules

[MJ Boston]

Well looks like there will definitely be a tour in 2013.

[rivers]

She tours too much

[KevinKDC]

Originally posted by North & South

@RCARecords
.@Shazam one of @kelly_clarkson's songs off #GreatestHitsChapterOne for a chance to see her perform! More details here: http://bit.ly/TaoqSa

One (1) winner will receive:
- Two (2) tickets to attend a Kelly Clarkson concert in 2013 in the continental United States (“Concert”) (exact date and location of Concert to be determined at the sole discretion of the Sponsor);
- Two (2) round trip airline tickets (economy coach class) from the major airport nearest winner’s home to a Concert-area airport (as determined at the sole discretion of the Sponsor). If the winner lives within One Hundred (100) miles of the Concert city, as determined at the sole discretion of the Sponsor, Sponsor may substitute ground transportation instead of air transportation;
- Transportation to and from the hotel, airport and the Concert; and
- One (1) night’s hotel accommodation (standard, one room, double occupancy) in or around the Concert city.
http://www.kellyclarkson.com/us/news...official-rules

I need to win this

[MJ Boston]

I'm glad she tours a lot because I can see her a lot.. but.. I kind of just want her to take a 2-3 year touring break so she can come back and do a big tour. I know she doesn't like arena tours but I'd really love for her to do a big tour like that. She might find that she likes certain aspects of it. And I'd love to be in an arena full of KC stans

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Addicted

I enjoyed the arena tour she did in the UK, she can definitely fill an arena (crowd wise and vocal wise) but it just felt less personal there were too many people

I do want her to keep doing big tours but I agree she needs a break, plus if she stopped touring just for a few months it would give her time to focus solely on making music!

Yassssss

I need album 6 to be flawless. Stronger had too many filler tracks, even though she sounds beautiful on all of them. But I haven't actually listened to the album in a while.

I know she likes unknown people and whatever.. but I'd really love her to work with some awesome producers and pair up with some AMAZING lyricists. Her writing is good, but it's not AMAZING. I want her next album material to be better than the covers she does on tour. That's really all I want. I'm tired of her covers being better than her actual songs.