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Album: Ciara - 'Ciara'
Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Hopefully after she performs she announces the tour. It starts in like two weeks.
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Member Since: 6/12/2012
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She better perform the new single I'm craving for it
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Now ya'll know who to vote for at the Ciara Stan Awards.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Best Case Scenario:
Ciara Debuts Overdose on Ellen, It shoots up iTunes to somewhere between 40 - 70 and they get it a radio deal for the same day (or next day) in which it smashes radio a bit and stabilizes in the Top 50 iTunes.
Okay Case Scenario:
Ciara Debuts Overdose on Ellen, it shoots up iTunes between 40 - 70 but Epic doesn't send the song to radio for a week or two leading the song to fall into the depths of iTunes but rises back and stabilizes in the 60s or 70s and gaining slowly.
What probably will happen:
Ciara does a I'm Out + Body Party medley and Body Party OR I'm Out finally get some pop adds and their sales are helped a bit/the album sales increase a bit for the following week (5.5k+) and helps mainstream finally remember Ciara exists and is working hard.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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What probably will happen:
Ciara does a I'm Out + Body Party medley and Body Party OR I'm Out finally get some pop adds and their sales are helped a bit/the album sales increase a bit for the following week (5.5k+) and helps mainstream finally remember Ciara exists and is working hard.
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Ciara will perform OD/RML, but it won't be released to Itunes until 2-3 weeks later with the video falling some where near then. Bookmark me.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Kweenara
Ciara will perform OD/RML, but it won't be released to Itunes until 2-3 weeks later with the video falling some where near then. Bookmark me.
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That can be the alternative to the "Okay" Scenario
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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See the worst thing that could happen is her pushing Body Party and I'm Out more when they've peaked already. She needs to test the waters with new music ASAP.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Flare
That can be the alternative to the "Okay" Scenario
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That's what's gonna happen.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Flare
Best Case Scenario:
Ciara Debuts Overdose on Ellen, It shoots up iTunes to somewhere between 40 - 70 and they get it a radio deal for the same day (or next day) in which it smashes radio a bit and stabilizes in the Top 50 iTunes.
Okay Case Scenario:
Ciara Debuts Overdose on Ellen, it shoots up iTunes between 40 - 70 but Epic doesn't send the song to radio for a week or two leading the song to fall into the depths of iTunes but rises back and stabilizes in the 60s or 70s and gaining slowly.
What probably will happen:
Ciara does a I'm Out + Body Party medley and Body Party OR I'm Out finally get some pop adds and their sales are helped a bit/the album sales increase a bit for the following week (5.5k+) and helps mainstream finally remember Ciara exists and is working hard.
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+1
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Member Since: 5/25/2009
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wait do we have vince in our corner ?? ciara needs to make him her manger
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Member Since: 5/25/2009
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by Flare
Best Case Scenario:
Ciara Debuts Overdose on Ellen, It shoots up iTunes to somewhere between 40 - 70 and they get it a radio deal for the same day (or next day) in which it smashes radio a bit and stabilizes in the Top 50 iTunes.
Okay Case Scenario:
Ciara Debuts Overdose on Ellen, it shoots up iTunes between 40 - 70 but Epic doesn't send the song to radio for a week or two leading the song to fall into the depths of iTunes but rises back and stabilizes in the 60s or 70s and gaining slowly.
What probably will happen:
Ciara does a I'm Out + Body Party medley and Body Party OR I'm Out finally get some pop adds and their sales are helped a bit/the album sales increase a bit for the following week (5.5k+) and helps mainstream finally remember Ciara exists and is working hard.
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what kind of Nostradamus tea
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by getback
what kind of Nostradamus tea
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It's just based off what usually happens to songs performed on Ellen plus what's been going on with Epic and Ciara. :coffee2
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VOTE FOR FLARE for Nostradamus Ci of the year
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Member Since: 11/16/2011
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Idc if it is RML, just be the new single.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Kiddo.
Idc if it is RML, just be the new single.
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RML might smash a bit though if it was performed on Ellen. That's the pop exposure it would need.
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Member Since: 8/25/2011
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you guys are being a bit dramatic in regards to the urban communities take on Ciara. she's actually favored, especially more than Rihanna. people ridicule rihanna for everything, it's just harder to knock her since she's successful. I feel like what Ciara lacks is a connection with people. She keeps herself pretty sheltered, which I understand because she's trying to uphold a certain image, but when people can't relate to you or don't think you're being 100% they won't buy into you. Ciara carries herself like most artist in the 80s/90s/early 00s. very cute, glossed over image, doesn't say much or really let people in. If you notice, that doesn't work anymore.
Have y'all not noticed how over the past two years the public went from never having any incite on Beyoncé and thinking she's robotic to now having a tumblr, IG, and multiple documentaries to introduce us to who SHE is? she's become WAY more personable because the whole glossed over image thing wasn't working for her anymore. constant picture updates about her life, stuff about fan appreciation, posting old videos of her being jokingly ratchet, etc. even her live performances are more relaxed and she references things in Pop culture like "gone with the wind fabulous" or "ain't nobody got time for that."
I think if people got to know Ciara better, got to see her hunger, her grind, her struggle and her work ethic they'd appreciate her more. take people back to ATL and show them how she grew up and how she's still "down" with her people and such. talk about falling from the graces of being one of the hottest new artist out to re-working her image and brand. like a TV special or series like Trey, Monica or Keyshia had would do her justice. people love vulnerability and someone they can root for. Ciara hasn't really showed us that.
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Member Since: 8/25/2011
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as for all the other stuff I think her team has stuff planned they're just waiting to execute said plans. I could be wrong, but it seems like she's been doing a lot behind the scenes to get the ball rolling once it's presented. I saw a pic of her doing fashion police for E! and this ellen performance could be the start of said plan. we'll see.
I do love the idea of her debuting the new single on Ellen and then announcing the tour during her little catch-up w/ Ellen. That would be a great look for her.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
you guys are being a bit dramatic in regards to the urban communities take on Ciara. she's actually favored, especially more than Rihanna. people ridicule rihanna for everything, it's just harder to knock her since she's successful. I feel like what Ciara lacks is a connection with people. She keeps herself pretty sheltered, which I understand because she's trying to uphold a certain image, but when people can't relate to you or don't think you're being 100% they won't buy into you. Ciara carries herself like most artist in the 80s/90s/early 00s. very cute, glossed over image, doesn't say much or really let people in. If you notice, that doesn't work anymore.
Have y'all not noticed how over the past two years the public went from never having any incite on Beyoncé and thinking she's robotic to now having a tumblr, IG, and multiple documentaries to introduce us to who SHE is? she's become WAY more personable because the whole glossed over image thing wasn't working for her anymore. constant picture updates about her life, stuff about fan appreciation, posting old videos of her being jokingly ratchet, etc. even her life performances are more relaxed and she references things in Pop culture like "gone with the wind fabulous" or "ain't nobody got time for that."
I think if people got to know Ciara better, got to see her hunger, her grind, her struggle and her work ethic they'd appreciate her more. take people back to ATL and show them how she grew up and how she's still "down" with her people and such. talk about falling from the graces of being one of the hottest new artist out to re-working her image and brand. like a TV special or series like Trey, Monica or Keyshia had would do her justice. people love vulnerability and someone they can root for. Ciara hasn't really showed that.
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Okay so I'll give you guys the short version:
Ciara needs a documentary or reality TV show (and the latter won't happen because she confirmed it won't in a recent interview because she likes keeping her personal life, personal).
Hopefully she does a documentary soon of touring but to be honest, that's not Ciara's issue right now.
Urban is here for you if you produce bops. Pop will drop you as soon as you try to move too far out of their ideal image of pop music of that time. She really needs pop support and a documentary won't really help there. Only more pop singles, international promo, and televised live performances can help that.
A documentary will help seal some Urban support though so, she could try that but imo she has Urban in a good place where they'll finally play her again. I'm Out is proof she can actually get Urban plays even with a not-so-urban song (proving they love Ciara again).
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Member Since: 3/20/2011
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A Behind the Music episode would be perfect.
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Member Since: 5/25/2009
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
you guys are being a bit dramatic in regards to the urban communities take on Ciara. she's actually favored, especially more than Rihanna. people ridicule rihanna for everything, it's just harder to knock her since she's successful. I feel like what Ciara lacks is a connection with people. She keeps herself pretty sheltered, which I understand because she's trying to uphold a certain image, but when people can't relate to you or don't think you're being 100% they won't buy into you. Ciara carries herself like most artist in the 80s/90s/early 00s. very cute, glossed over image, doesn't say much or really let people in. If you notice, that doesn't work anymore.
Have y'all not noticed how over the past two years the public went from never having any incite on Beyoncé and thinking she's robotic to now having a tumblr, IG, and multiple documentaries to introduce us to who SHE is? she's become WAY more personable because the whole glossed over image thing wasn't working for her anymore. constant picture updates about her life, stuff about fan appreciation, posting old videos of her being jokingly ratchet, etc. even her live performances are more relaxed and she references things in Pop culture like "gone with the wind fabulous" or "ain't nobody got time for that."
I think if people got to know Ciara better, got to see her hunger, her grind, her struggle and her work ethic they'd appreciate her more. take people back to ATL and show them how she grew up and how she's still "down" with her people and such. talk about falling from the graces of being one of the hottest new artist out to re-working her image and brand. like a TV special or series like Trey, Monica or Keyshia had would do her justice. people love vulnerability and someone they can root for. Ciara hasn't really showed us that.
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