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				Ultraviolence is obviously selling better than BTD because people actually know who she is now, unlike during BTD where it took 2 years for everyone to discover her. It's like saying Born This Way sold better than The Fame just because it was frontloaded (like Ultraviolence will be too).  If anyone actually thinks she will have the same longevity 
 
			
		 
	 
	
 Except Lana had actual global radio hits leading up to BTD and a huge media frenzy/backlash leading up to BTD so this theory doesn't really check out.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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				Why wasn't this the case with BTD? 
 
Why did her sound magically prevent her from doing well after 2 years of doing well with it? 
 
			
		 
	 
	
 Because 
Born To Die  was basically pop music wrapped up in an ''indie'' package. 
Ultraviolence  sounds nothing like it, it's boring and monotonous.
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				Royals and Team killed that excuse
			
		 
	 
	
 ''Royals'' and ''Team'' have the sound of 
Born To Die , not 
Ultraviolence .
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
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				What female artists even released an album this year?  
 
Mariah Carey? 
  
Sia? 
 
Ofc she outsold them 
			
		 
	 
	
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Que? (not mexican, it's just fun to say) But according to people like Slobro and iHype, Mariah is a global, youthful legend. Everyone loves her. The youth still stans. Why shouldn't she outsell an unknown tumblr fad?
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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Nicole 
					 
				 
				What female artists even released an album this year?  
 
Mariah Carey? 
 
Sia? 
 
Ofc she outsold them
			
		 
	 
	
 Iggy Azealia, Cheryl Lloyd, Pixie Lott, and some others.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
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				Has UV doubled its first week?
			
		 
	 
	
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				Born To Die 
 
07/2012: 327,000 (327,000)  
08/2012: 198,000 (525,000) -39% 
09/2012: 146,000 (671,000) -26% 
10/2012: 115,000 (786,000) -21% 
11/2012: 104,000 (890,000) -10% 
12/2012: 85,000 (975,000) -18% 
 
Ultraviolence 
 
27/2014: 356,000 (356,000)  
28/2014: 126,000 (482,000) -65% 
29/2014: 88,000 (570,000) -30% 
30/2014: 71,000 (641,000) -19% 
31/2014: 60,000 (701,000) -15% 
32/2014: 54,000 (755,000) -10%
			
		 
	 
	
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Nicole 
					 
				 
				Yes I'm @ doctors ofc. Taking forever  
 
You know the chiefs daughter that Peter rescues and then Wendy gets jealous
			
		 
	 
	
 Yeah she's in my primary avi. 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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Kworb 
					 
				 
				Born To Die 
 
07/2012: 327,000 (327,000)  
08/2012: 198,000 (525,000) -39% 
09/2012: 146,000 (671,000) -26% 
10/2012: 115,000 (786,000) -21% 
11/2012: 104,000 (890,000) -10% 
12/2012: 85,000 (975,000) -18% 
 
Ultraviolence 
 
27/2014: 356,000 (356,000)  
28/2014: 126,000 (482,000) -65% 
29/2014: 88,000 (570,000) -30% 
30/2014: 71,000 (641,000) -19% 
31/2014: 60,000 (701,000) -15% 
32/2014: 54,000 (755,000) -10%
			
		 
	 
	
 
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					Originally posted by 
Duca 
					 
				 
				Has UV doubled its first week?
			
		 
	 
	
 It's barely sold 100k since in US. 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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 Born to Die had no radio hits in America but still sold well. 
Ultraviolence's slower bpm is not an excuse for the lower sales.  
 
 
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To her credit, BTD was a slow burner in sales. UV could steadily rise as it picks up momentum...but that's a big maybe
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
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iHype. 
					 
				 
				IT'S NOT EVEN SELLING BETTER.  
 
12k in Week 6; coming off a debut of almost 200,000. 
 
BTD sold 11k in Week 6; coming off a debut just above 75,000.  
			
		 
	 
	
 Born To Die: 2 - 13 - 36 - 37 - 40 - 43 - 32
Ultraviolence: 1 - 3 - 9 - 12 - 17 - 18 - 19
Market album sales as a whole being lower isn't Lana's fault. 
 
@Kworb OBVIOUSLY I was only talking about U.S. Sales. I'm talking to iHype!
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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Jameson Teqkilla 
					 
				 
				Born To Die: 2 - 13 - 36 - 37 - 40 - 43 - 32
Ultraviolence: 1 - 3 - 9 - 12 - 17 - 18 - 19
Market album sales as a whole being lower isn't Lana's fault. 
 
@Kworb OBVIOUSLY I was only talking about U.S. Sales. I'm talking to iHype!
 
			
		 
	 
	
 You're using chart positions as if somehow it changes the fact it's a flop and won't go Gold? 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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				I've noticed that everyone with good taste (Jameson, MrP, Robyn, Damien, Kang, BoyOnBoy Wonder) are stanning for MeGODhan. No surprise there!
			
		 
	 
	
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				Madonna got a Top 10 hit with a throwback swing song ("Hanky Panky")
Why can't Gags? 
 
			
		 
	 
	
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 Ultraviolence will obviously not have BTD's longevity. There are no hits like Video Games, Summertime Sadness (hits all over the world) and SS remix (hit in US). She drastically changed her sound and the GP is not here for it.
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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				Who is that?
			
		 
	 
	
  
She used to write for Rascal Flatts and now she has the #1 song on iTunes! She's also apparently a super nice person.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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				I've noticed that everyone with good taste  (Jameson, MrP, Robyn, Damien, Kang, BoyOnBoy Wonder) are stanning for MeGODhan. No surprise there!
			
		 
	 
	
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				You're using chart positions as if somehow it changes the fact it's a flop and won't go Gold? 
 
			
		 
	 
	
 Your fave's most recent album is struggling to get past 1/5 of Gold so I'm not understanding your concern.
It's not a flop. It's selling well. 65k first week and then 35k in the following 2 months is a flop.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
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				Ultraviolence will obviously not have BTD's longevity. There are no hits like Video Games, Summertime Sadness (hits all over the world) and SS remix (hit in US). She drastically changed her sound and the GP is not here for it.
			
		 
	 
	
 Money Power Glory and Old Money are remix ready 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
	 
	
 
	
	
		
 
 
  
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				58. Katy Perry - Dark Horse (feat. Juicy J) 
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 Jesus. 
  
And it's already passed 500M on YT.