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TV Show: America's Next Top Model: Cycle 21 | And the winner is...
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Originally posted by Reb'l Rêveur
Can't wait for the next episode!
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Waiting for the next episodes sucks tbh. I watched all of cycle 20 in 2/3 days online and it was so much better
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Member Since: 12/5/2011
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
Waiting for the next episodes sucks tbh. I watched all of cycle 20 in 2/3 days online and it was so much better
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Been watching ANTM (and all the US series) weekly. Yes, it sucks!
The Walking Dead, Arrow, and Flash will premiere soon though, so I guess it will lessen my excitement because my weekly habit will be change again
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Originally posted by Yvess
are u?
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Yep. Which part are you from?
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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denzel tweeted this last week
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Mr. Wells™ @Iam_DenzelWells Sep 10
Finally got my drink from @willANTM21 🍻🍻🍻 #TeamWill #TeamDenzel #Werq #Blessed pic.twitter.com/u3BzIB3M1w
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Mess @ Marjana and Denzel being "homophobic". You sensitive queens
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they're right though... why are they making such a big deal about matt's DARE, but then marjiana and kari can do the same
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I went to high school with Romeo.
Mess.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
Mess @ Marjana and Denzel being "homophobic". You sensitive queens
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Marijuana kissed a girl too but she's reacting towards Matt's dare. Double Standard is real.
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Originally posted by vince_martin88
Yep. Which part are you from?
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Just around the metro
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Member Since: 10/15/2011
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Originally posted by Yvess
Just around the metro
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Awesome
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Yvess
Marijuana kissed a girl too but she's reacting towards Matt's dare. Double Standard is real.
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Originally posted by hot mess
they're right though... why are they making such a big deal about matt's DARE, but then marjiana and kari can do the same
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Pls. It wasn't a dare. He kept going on about how beautiful will is, and alluding that their might be an attraction. You take their reactions to heart but your taking into account the full context.
In society, women often kiss to entertain the man (as jana and kari did), or kiss to be edgy. But they are still 100% straight.
generally in society, when men kiss each other it is for no ones entertainment (with the exception of a minority of gays and 1D fans). And it is not seen as edgy. Which is why Matthews sexuality was called into question.
But wasn't it pretty obvious that the whole interaction was staged and Jana & Densel were being, used to relay the question producers wanted to answered, but in a authentic seeming conversation? The whole thing did not flow well with me, looked like they were using queue cards. You guys forget this is reality tv show, these contestants are being prompted to create drama. Look how Matt was conveniently attracted to that girl after her weird half and half makeover. It's all false. Stop taking it so seriously.
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DO you think that kiss really happened or just made up to start drama or something? We don't even have a footage.
Nnn... but #Willthew still slay my life now
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This thread makes me wish social media didn't exist. Matthew can not model. And doesn't really look like one. The only thin that will keep him in the competition is his gay fantasy fan service he has with will
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Surprised that the guy with a buzz cut is 6'3. I'm 6'3 and I don't photograph tall
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I swear it's becoming more like an episode of Real World as each episode progressing.
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Originally posted by Javan
Pls. It wasn't a dare. He kept going on about how beautiful will is, and alluding that their might be an attraction. You take their reactions to heart but your taking into account the full context.
In society, women often kiss to entertain the man (as jana and kari did), or kiss to be edgy. But they are still 100% straight.
generally in society, when men kiss each other it is for no ones entertainment (with the exception of a minority of gays and 1D fans). And it is not seen as edgy. Which is why Matthews sexuality was called into question.
But wasn't it pretty obvious that the whole interaction was staged and Jana & Densel were being, used to relay the question producers wanted to answered, but in a authentic seeming conversation? The whole thing did not flow well with me, looked like they were using queue cards. You guys forget this is reality tv show, these contestants are being prompted to create drama. Look how Matt was conveniently attracted to that girl after her weird half and half makeover. It's all false. Stop taking it so seriously.
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it was a dare. romeo confirmed it online. there's a reason why they didn't show the full footage. it wouldn't work with the confrontation afterwards, and like you said, this is a reality show, so it's scripted and edited to create drama.
i know that two women kissing is seen as edgy, but isn't that rooted in homophobia and also sexism? it's seen as entertaining because many straight men find it entertaining. as for whether two men kissing can be edgy, it depends on upbringing and environment. matt is obviously not from the place as denzel, marijana, keith and even will. it is hypocritical of marijana to insist will is gay and then eagerly kiss kari as if it's nothing. if that's nothing, then why is the thing with will something?
FYI i don't find matt attractive nor do i find straight men attractive so this isn't some attempt to perpetuate some strange fantasy
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Originally posted by Javan
This thread makes me wish social media didn't exist. Matthew can not model. And doesn't really look like one. The only thin that will keep him in the competition is his gay fantasy fan service he has with will
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the social media thing is from months back. this show has been filmed months ago.
they don't know about what's happening except for the photoshoots
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Originally posted by hot mess
the social media thing is from months back. this show has been filmed months ago.
they don't know about what's happening except for the photoshoots
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Oh thank god. That explains SOOO much. I was really confused as to why social media was upvotin this chick:
When she was huge bitch
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l love how Marjana in DOWN. Came as no surprise she's dating a black man. Even her voice. Can Iggy take notes pls
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Originally posted by hot mess
i know that two women kissing is seen as edgy, but isn't that rooted in homophobia and also sexism? it's seen as entertaining because many straight men find it entertaining. as for whether two men kissing can be edgy, it depends on upbringing and environment. matt is obviously not from the place as denzel, marijana, keith and even will. it is hypocritical of marijana to insist will is gay and then eagerly kiss kari as if it's nothing. if that's nothing, then why is the thing with will something?
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As far as I know they are all American . Nobody honestly thinks it's casual to kiss another guy. But I suppose if it was a dare, that changes things alot. Some people have no boundaries. Denzel and Kieth obviously do. That is no justification to call them homophobic.
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Originally posted by Javan
As far as I know they are all American . Nobody honestly thinks it's casual to kiss another guy. But I suppose if it was a dare, that changes things alot. Some people have no boundaries. Denzel and Kieth obviously do. That is no justification to call them homophobic.
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what does being american mean though? an average person from california's attitudes are not going to be the same as the average person from texas, georgie or new york. and even within one state, city, town or neighborhood, there's diversity because of social class, education, race, religion, culture, values, age, etc. i went to a really liberal high school with mostly whites and east asians and the straight guys thought it was so funny to hump each other in the locker room, make homoerotic comments and even grab each other's asses and crotches and yes, even a kiss. there is NO way that would have happened at another high school 500 feet with different demographics. if you did that you'd probably get verbally or physically harassed. judging from their backgrounds, it's unlikely that denzel, keith and marijana would be okay with a man kissing another man. keith and denzel are black and marijana's parents are immigrants from eastern europe.
i don't think anyone here thinks it's casual to kiss another guy, but no one thinks it's casual to kiss another girl either. and i think the "homophobic" thing is just coming from them pressing about the issue and marijana insisting that he's gay, but then turning around and being okay with doing the same thing with a woman. but like you said, they could have been fed the lines and egged. denzel kept making it clear he felt awkward about will (heels, touching his chest in the group photoshoot) and marjiana had her thing with matt so it would make sense to have them involved.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by hot mess
what does being american mean though? an average person from california's attitudes are not going to be the same as the average person from texas, georgie or new york. and even within one state, city, town or neighborhood, there's diversity because of social class, education, race, religion, culture, values, age, etc. i went to a really liberal high school with mostly whites and east asians and the straight guys thought it was so funny to hump each other in the locker room, make homoerotic comments and even grab each other's asses and crotches and yes, even a kiss. there is NO way that would have happened at another high school 500 feet with different demographics. if you did that you'd probably get verbally or physically harassed. judging from their backgrounds, it's unlikely that denzel, keith and marijana would be okay with a man kissing another man. keith and denzel are black and marijana's parents are immigrants from eastern europe.
i don't think anyone here thinks it's casual to kiss another guy, but no one thinks it's casual to kiss another girl either. and i think the "homophobic" thing is just coming from them pressing about the issue and marijana insisting that he's gay, but then turning around and being okay with doing the same thing with a woman. but like you said, they could have been fed the lines and egged. denzel kept making it clear he felt awkward about will (heels, touching his chest in the group photoshoot) and marjiana had her thing with matt so it would make sense to have them involved.
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It's not about being ok, with anything. It's about sexual orientation. 9/10 if a guy kisses another guy, he is gay and you are trying to escape this because? Straight women. t's really not the same the whole thing about straight guys humping, slapping asses, grabbing balls is actually just a way of communicating passive and covert intimidation/domination(so I was told in psychology). Kissing is something completely different. Straight men (in the US) do not kiss each other on the lips, it's a simple axiom, of course there are exceptions but ATRL are kinda being hypocrites by suggesting the others aren't open minded/hypocritical for questioning their sexuality - When females kiss, nobody is on ATRL is calling Miley gay, but Louis from 1D kissed a dude everyone is convinced he's gay...
Y'all need to stop making it out like Denzel/Kieth/Jana are not ok with homosexuality. The only thing Denzel has said is that it's not for him (personally). That's it. He even said himself that "he's body is not capable", not that he thought it was wrong.
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