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 Kinda surprised since they had Taylor Swift and One Direction.   |  
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					Originally posted by Ascension  I was just going to enjoy the stan meltdowns and utter seething in this deliciously messy thread until I got to this; completely illogical.  
2003 Bey was nowhere near as big of a star; her debut solo album came out six  weeks prior to that VMA. And lest we forget, that was the year that Britney and Christina opened the show kissing Madonna on stage...the year when both Britney and Christina were at their peak, on stage with the biggest female musical act, legend and pop culture icon of all time. What is the excuse for that? 
 
2006 there weren't that many major stars; only Bey and Justin Timberlake. And even then at that point, her star as a solo artist was still growing. The B'Day era was barely kicked off and the lead singles, Deja Vu and Ring The Alarm hadn't performed nearly as well as the lead singles to DiL. The monster hit Irreplaceable didn't even exist yet to the GP. That show, like this year, lacked a necessary level of star power. 
 
But, since, Bey has done nothing but further cement herself as a music industry fixture and ascended into an elite level of stardom that goes beyond how hot her last single was or how well her last album sold. A luxury afford to VERY few in the industry.  
 
No factual evidence to support the fact that she is a ratings draw? Ch. 
 
5.1 Million tuned in to watch her televised concert all by herself ; 6.1 million tuned in Thursday. That's what? 80-85% of that entire VMA viewing audience? Yeah, no draw whatsoever.    
You can try your best to deny Bey's star power, but, the receipts have been rolling off the spool for years. And they're undeniable. She's THE top female Billboard artist of the '00s [receipt ], over 9 figure grossing world tour; 4 consecutive number one albums; more awards and acclaim than any other current mainstream female act; WW gross movie box office of over $700 million [receipt ] -- the ONLY current mainstream singer that has proven to be able to carry a movie on her name ONLY and turn a profit or even break even before going to DVD [receipt ](Britney couldn't even at her peak, Christina couldn't, Katy couldn't); not to mention 1/2 of one of the biggest celebrity power couples on the planet -- THE biggest in the music word [receipt  and another ]...I think you get the picture. Ha credentials are proven; have been time and time again. The numbers don't lie. Period. 
 
Anyway, I'm not going to be delusional and say that Beyonce and Beyonce alone could have carried a show. It is silly to attribute the success or failure of an award show to the presence or absence of any one person; however, there is a reason why last year's VMA was THE most watched of all time and it's silly to say that Beyonce didn't play a major role; as did Gaga, Adele, Britney...it was a perfect storm of elements, combination of star power, highly anticipated performances and awards, surprising and memorable moments...
 
Starting with Beyonce -- America's sweetheart, one half of THE biggest power couple in music, who walked the red carpet revealing her baby bump confirming the rumors amongst her stans and shocking the GP; this immediately nearly broke Twitter and kicked the viewership into overdrive as people saw Twitter ablaze and tuned in out of curiosity and then were held captivated by one of the best musical award shows in recent memory: 
 
Anyway, I've made my point. Toodles. 
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					Originally posted by Benzene  I think it's time we retired the "EBT Awards" nickname and adopt the "BEsT Awards." 
It was indeed the best awards show this year, and cable viewers agreed.
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					Originally posted by TheGoodSisShanners  The true tea about the the BET Awards being better this year is Debra Evil decided to invest BET's fish fry money into actually producers who can produce quality award shows.....
 Word is she's coming for MTV's wig...
 
 
 I put money on it MTV was watching this show like a hawk in the sky shocked that this wasn't a mess...
 
 
 They better come up with a flawless Whitney Tribute and I want a Beyonce Vanguard Award performances ala Britney's (even though they shaded Brit with that mess tribute...)
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					Originally posted by Kaluda  No Gaga. No VMAs. |    
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					Originally posted by Glam  Kinda surprised since they had Taylor Swift and One Direction. |   |  
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 What is wrong with the Britney stans today? They're being so shady towards everyone.
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					Originally posted by shanners  
The kii is that the DNC started(after the VMA's ended)  at 10pm on all the major networks....so.......  |  The DNC started at 8. Obama's speech started at 10.  |  
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					Originally posted by Rainbows  ATTN ALL: Many of the VMA's HIGHEST RATED SHOWS were on THURSDAY.  
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					Originally posted by Glam  What is wrong with the Britney stans today? They're being so shady towards everyone.
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 The whole show was a major BLAH!   |  
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 Eww people still watch MTV?    
The heavy hitters weren't there: britney, beyonce, or gaga. All the secondhand entertainers were.  |  
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					Originally posted by Ascension  I was just going to enjoy the stan meltdowns and utter seething in this deliciously messy thread until I got to this; completely illogical.  
2003 Bey was nowhere near as big of a star; her debut solo album came out six  weeks prior to that VMA. And lest we forget, that was the year that Britney and Christina opened the show kissing Madonna on stage...the year when both Britney and Christina were at their peak, on stage with the biggest female musical act, legend and pop culture icon of all time. What is the excuse for that? 
 
2006 there weren't that many major stars; only Bey and Justin Timberlake. And even then at that point, her star as a solo artist was still growing. The B'Day era was barely kicked off and the lead singles, Deja Vu and Ring The Alarm hadn't performed nearly as well as the lead singles to DiL. The monster hit Irreplaceable didn't even exist yet to the GP. That show, like this year, lacked a necessary level of star power. 
 
But, since, Bey has done nothing but further cement herself as a music industry fixture and ascended into an elite level of stardom that goes beyond how hot her last single was or how well her last album sold. A luxury afford to VERY few in the industry.  
 
No factual evidence to support the fact that she is a ratings draw? Ch. 
 
5.1 Million tuned in to watch her televised concert all by herself ; 6.1 million tuned in Thursday. That's what? 80-85% of that entire VMA viewing audience? Yeah, no draw whatsoever.    
You can try your best to deny Bey's star power, but, the receipts have been rolling off the spool for years. And they're undeniable. She's THE top female Billboard artist of the '00s [receipt ], over 9 figure grossing world tour; 4 consecutive number one albums; more awards and acclaim than any other current mainstream female act; WW gross movie box office of over $700 million [receipt ] -- the ONLY current mainstream singer that has proven to be able to carry a movie on her name ONLY and turn a profit or even break even before going to DVD [receipt ](Britney couldn't even at her peak, Christina couldn't, Katy couldn't); not to mention 1/2 of one of the biggest celebrity power couples on the planet -- THE biggest in the music word [receipt  and another ]...I think you get the picture. Ha credentials are proven; have been time and time again. The numbers don't lie. Period. 
 
Anyway, I'm not going to be delusional and say that Beyonce and Beyonce alone could have carried a show. It is silly to attribute the success or failure of an award show to the presence or absence of any one person; however, there is a reason why last year's VMA was THE most watched of all time and it's silly to say that Beyonce didn't play a major role; as did Gaga, Adele, Britney...it was a perfect storm of elements, combination of star power, highly anticipated performances and awards, surprising and memorable moments...
 
Starting with Beyonce -- America's sweetheart, one half of THE biggest power couple in music, who walked the red carpet revealing her baby bump confirming the rumors amongst her stans and shocking the GP; this immediately nearly broke Twitter and kicked the viewership into overdrive as people saw Twitter ablaze and tuned in out of curiosity and then were held captivated by one of the best musical award shows in recent memory: 
 
Anyway, I've made my point. Toodles. 
  |  Great write up. 
And, you forgot to add that the ratings went up during the Billboard Awards around the time that Beyoncé performed (9.415M, 9:00pm-9:30pm) and received her tribute/award for Artist Of The Millennium. It was also the highest rated BBA since 2003. 
And on top of that, it got higher ratings than this year's VMAs as well & also dropped in ratings the following year Beyoncé didn't attend.
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					Originally posted by Ascension  I was just going to enjoy the stan meltdowns and utter seething in this deliciously messy thread until I got to this; completely illogical.  
2003 Bey was nowhere near as big of a star; her debut solo album came out six  weeks prior to that VMA. And lest we forget, that was the year that Britney and Christina opened the show kissing Madonna on stage...the year when both Britney and Christina were at their peak, on stage with the biggest female musical act, legend and pop culture icon of all time. What is the excuse for that? 
 
2006 there weren't that many major stars; only Bey and Justin Timberlake. And even then at that point, her star as a solo artist was still growing. The B'Day era was barely kicked off and the lead singles, Deja Vu and Ring The Alarm hadn't performed nearly as well as the lead singles to DiL. The monster hit Irreplaceable didn't even exist yet to the GP. That show, like this year, lacked a necessary level of star power. 
 
But, since, Bey has done nothing but further cement herself as a music industry fixture and ascended into an elite level of stardom that goes beyond how hot her last single was or how well her last album sold. A luxury afford to VERY few in the industry.  
 
No factual evidence to support the fact that she is a ratings draw? Ch. 
 
5.1 Million tuned in to watch her televised concert all by herself ; 6.1 million tuned in Thursday. That's what? 80-85% of that entire VMA viewing audience? Yeah, no draw whatsoever.    
You can try your best to deny Bey's star power, but, the receipts have been rolling off the spool for years. And they're undeniable. She's THE top female Billboard artist of the '00s [receipt ], over 9 figure grossing world tour; 4 consecutive number one albums; more awards and acclaim than any other current mainstream female act; WW gross movie box office of over $700 million [receipt ] -- the ONLY current mainstream singer that has proven to be able to carry a movie on her name ONLY and turn a profit or even break even before going to DVD [receipt ](Britney couldn't even at her peak, Christina couldn't, Katy couldn't); not to mention 1/2 of one of the biggest celebrity power couples on the planet -- THE biggest in the music word [receipt  and another ]...I think you get the picture. Ha credentials are proven; have been time and time again. The numbers don't lie. Period. 
 
Anyway, I'm not going to be delusional and say that Beyonce and Beyonce alone could have carried a show. It is silly to attribute the success or failure of an award show to the presence or absence of any one person; however, there is a reason why last year's VMA was THE most watched of all time and it's silly to say that Beyonce didn't play a major role; as did Gaga, Adele, Britney...it was a perfect storm of elements, combination of star power, highly anticipated performances and awards, surprising and memorable moments...
 
Starting with Beyonce -- America's sweetheart, one half of THE biggest power couple in music, who walked the red carpet revealing her baby bump confirming the rumors amongst her stans and shocking the GP; this immediately nearly broke Twitter and kicked the viewership into overdrive as people saw Twitter ablaze and tuned in out of curiosity and then were held captivated by one of the best musical award shows in recent memory: 
 
Anyway, I've made my point. Toodles. 
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					Originally posted by Ascension  I was just going to enjoy the stan meltdowns and utter seething in this deliciously messy thread until I got to this; completely illogical.  
2003 Bey was nowhere near as big of a star; her debut solo album came out six  weeks prior to that VMA. And lest we forget, that was the year that Britney and Christina opened the show kissing Madonna on stage...the year when both Britney and Christina were at their peak, on stage with the biggest female musical act, legend and pop culture icon of all time. What is the excuse for that? 
 
2006 there weren't that many major stars; only Bey and Justin Timberlake. And even then at that point, her star as a solo artist was still growing. The B'Day era was barely kicked off and the lead singles, Deja Vu and Ring The Alarm hadn't performed nearly as well as the lead singles to DiL. The monster hit Irreplaceable didn't even exist yet to the GP. That show, like this year, lacked a necessary level of star power. 
 
But, since, Bey has done nothing but further cement herself as a music industry fixture and ascended into an elite level of stardom that goes beyond how hot her last single was or how well her last album sold. A luxury afford to VERY few in the industry.  
 
No factual evidence to support the fact that she is a ratings draw? Ch. 
 
5.1 Million tuned in to watch her televised concert all by herself ; 6.1 million tuned in Thursday. That's what? 80-85% of that entire VMA viewing audience? Yeah, no draw whatsoever.    
You can try your best to deny Bey's star power, but, the receipts have been rolling off the spool for years. And they're undeniable. She's THE top female Billboard artist of the '00s [receipt ], over 9 figure grossing world tour; 4 consecutive number one albums; more awards and acclaim than any other current mainstream female act; WW gross movie box office of over $700 million [receipt ] -- the ONLY current mainstream singer that has proven to be able to carry a movie on her name ONLY and turn a profit or even break even before going to DVD [receipt ](Britney couldn't even at her peak, Christina couldn't, Katy couldn't); not to mention 1/2 of one of the biggest celebrity power couples on the planet -- THE biggest in the music word [receipt  and another ]...I think you get the picture. Ha credentials are proven; have been time and time again. The numbers don't lie. Period. 
 
Anyway, I'm not going to be delusional and say that Beyonce and Beyonce alone could have carried a show. It is silly to attribute the success or failure of an award show to the presence or absence of any one person; however, there is a reason why last year's VMA was THE most watched of all time and it's silly to say that Beyonce didn't play a major role; as did Gaga, Adele, Britney...it was a perfect storm of elements, combination of star power, highly anticipated performances and awards, surprising and memorable moments...
 
Starting with Beyonce -- America's sweetheart, one half of THE biggest power couple in music, who walked the red carpet revealing her baby bump confirming the rumors amongst her stans and shocking the GP; this immediately nearly broke Twitter and kicked the viewership into overdrive as people saw Twitter ablaze and tuned in out of curiosity and then were held captivated by one of the best musical award shows in recent memory: 
 
Anyway, I've made my point. Toodles. 
  |  Great write up, but one Question: Why was there almost no impact on the Billboard chart after the Love on Top performance?  |  
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					Originally posted by rbautz  Great write up, but one Question: Why was there almost no impact on the Billboard chart after the Love on Top performance? |  it went top 20 and it wasn't a single nor did it have a video and not to mention most people aside from her fans or the people that bought 4 hadn't heard the song prior to the performance. have a seat  |  
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					Originally posted by pink.hearts  it went top 20 and it wasn't a single nor did it have a video and not to mention most people aside from her fans or the people that bought 4 hadn't heard the song prior to the performance. have a seat |  Some artists don't need a single release or video to rise significant  at the charts, we live in the download age, you know.  |  
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 Next year will be awsome!!! Bey, Britney, Gaga, Shakira will all be there attending/performing while Rihanna will be tweeting/shading from home... it will be EPIC!!!!   |  
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