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Discussion: What's your stance on...? #46: Organ Donation
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Originally posted by Travis10
Gay Marriage - Should be allowed, yet question if this will lead to a nuptial between 3 or more people....
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Are you serious? That argument is just so ridiculous. There is nothing different about gay marriage except that it is between two men or two women instead of a man and woman. How people continue to spin that into outrageous predictions about the complete collapse of the "institution of marriage" (which is such a ******** notion anyways) is beyond me.
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Illegal Immigration can be a problem for a country & it's economy. So I'm against it from the economical point of view, but I don't have any problem with the individuals, I mean I would not hate on them or discriminate against them. It's just the phenomenon of illegal immigration that causes negative effects, however, these people deserve respect imo.
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As for gay marriage:
I'm straight and I've been with several girls so far. I have a girlfriend atm.
At the same time, I've been friends with gay people (men/women) and I believe they have every right to marry, express their love and even adopt children.
I believe that people have the right to express themselves freely and love is a right that should be respected!! Therefore, gay marriage/adoption should be totally allowed imo.
I respect Christianity but I don't consider myself a Christian. However, I must stress that the Bible was written by people after Christ's time and Christ himself always preached about equality and love. Messages of hate were added in the Bible later on by other people.
And I am amazed by a certain Gaga stan who is against the expression of gay love/marriage when his own fave is a gay rights activist and an advocate of equality. Also, FYI, the true message of Christianity has to do with love and is not about blindly reading the Bible. How hypocritical of you.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
Well I'm not one of those, I've worked hard for my education and there are obviously laws for a reasons, if they really wanted to be a citizen and for the right reasons they would take the time to do it right.
If they aren't going to be let in the country it is normally for good reasons. They can Marry someone if they are in love, they can get a visa if they have a good education and can support themselves or if they come from money in the first place.
While it may not always seem fair, it is the law and it isn't going to change any time soon, you can't choose where you come from but you have to make the most of it, no matter how difficult. The fact is that if you are not born in the USA and do not have relatives there you have no right to be there and you can be deported.
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I don't disagree with you, but you are looking at the situation through your eyes. An educated person who can make it in another country, that's who you are not others. Some people immigrate because of wars and disaster in there homeland. They don't have time to go through the process. If they did take the time and do all the work, they could be dead or in another horrific situation. Try looking through someone else's eyes. Think about it like this, your house is on fire, and you have to run outside right? But you have to fill out an application to go outside. Are you going to....
A) Fill out the application and burn down with the house
B) Illegally run out the house and preserve you and your kids life
Obviously B.
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1. Abortion - Should only be allowed under certain circumstances.
2. Same-Sex Marriage - Should be allowed.
3. Gun Control - Should be legal for people clean records. Guns being banned doesn't stop criminals from carrying them.
4. Illegal Immigration - Against it, but I agree the process should be easier.
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Against it - for my country (the UK) anyway. It's just falling apart here.
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supaspaz shuts down every topic. 
supaspaz + itstotallybea = you lose. 
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Originally posted by supaspaz
Are you serious? That argument is just so ridiculous. There is nothing different about gay marriage except that it is between two men or two women instead of a man and woman. How people continue to spin that into outrageous predictions about the complete collapse of the "institution of marriage" (which is such a ******** notion anyways) is beyond me.
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You misread my original statement. I said gay marriage SHOULD BE ALLOWED. `__`... No negative spin to the gay populace within our world in any way.
I'm thinking the next thing our society will be dealing/questioning/debating with when it comes to the concept of "marriage" is people wanting to marry each other in a group of three or more people. (I can kinda see it happening once gay marriage is more universally accepted)
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Immigration:
Economically, this has hurt the United States already overall.
Personally, with some of these cases, I don't blame for these "immigrants" for coming into our country. We do need to instill more appropriately publicized awareness towards these countries about how to become a fully legal US citizen.
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Previous Topics
#1 - Abortion
#2 - Same-Sex Marriage (Gay Marriage)
#3 - Gun Control
#4 - Immigration (Illegal or Undocumented) #5
Euthanasia
Pain and Suffering or Morality?
Assisted Suicide?
Children?
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I think it's something that you can only fully understand if you have seen a loved one who is terminally ill suffer horribly before death.
It is right for some people and some families and not right for others. I personally think that if someone I loved was in a horrible amount of pain, had terrible quality of life and wasn't going to survive the illness, had a matter of weeks left, that I would rather let them go earlier than watch them suffer.
But placed in that position I may change my mind. It's a personal thing,
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I think it's something that you can only fully understand if you have seen a loved one who is terminally ill suffer horribly before death.
It is right for some people and some families and not right for others. I personally think that if someone I loved was in a horrible amount of pain, had terrible quality of life and wasn't going to survive the illness, had a matter of weeks left, that I would rather let them go earlier than watch them suffer.
But placed in that position I may change my mind. It's a personal thing,
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I agree. It would be very hard to do it but you would know that you did the right thing by not making them suffer.
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Pro-the option. (You'll find I say that a lot  )
Let it be an option for people. It's YOUR life, you should be able to decide what you want with it. That being said, I think a person should be required to see a counselor before having it done.
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Originally posted by Katie
Pro-the option. (You'll find I say that a lot )
Let it be an option for people. It's YOUR life, you should be able to decide what you want with it. That being said, I think a person should be required to see a counselor before having it done. |
I don't think that the person should be aloud to make the decision alone, first the Doctor should declare that it is an option has sadly the person will get no better, then if there is family it should be discussed openly. As selfish as it is, you have to think of the family as well.
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I feel like if it needs to be done and the person, doctor, and loved ones all agree. Then it should be done. And I do agree with Katie it is your life and you do what want with it. But Euthanasia needs to be considered very carefully...think about everyone not just yourself. But I agree with it under certain circumstances.
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Originally posted by Deuces;4637140[B
]I feel like if it needs to be done and the person, doctor, and loved ones all agree[/B]. Then it should be done. And I do agree with Katie it is your life and you do what want with it. But Euthanasia needs to be considered very carefully...think about everyone not just yourself. But I agree with it under certain circumstances.
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Agree
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I don't think that the person should be aloud to make the decision alone, first the Doctor should declare that it is an option has sadly the person will get no better, then if there is family it should be discussed openly. As selfish as it is, you have to think of the family as well.
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Oh, I don't think it should be made alone. I was talking about legal requirements...I think it should be legally required to speak to a counselor before the decision is made. Also, what you said, a doctor should be the one to make it an option. I think that should be the law. I think they should involve their loved ones, also, but I wouldn't regulate that.
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