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Celeb News: M.I.A: Is Beyoncé going to say Muslim Lives Matter?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by PULSE.
I find it funny how not one person is attacking Kendrick
You all have a personal problem with Beyoncé . You could care less about M.I.A's issue.
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!!! I even asked what's the difference between him speaking out and putting his album on sale and Bey doing the same thing. No response.
Who else making political and social statements are releasing their music for free?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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What about the human trafficking in South America? Thats also an important issue. M.I.A. needs to start speaking for the women and children forced into sex trade in south america.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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This is NOT hating, it's consctructive criticsm. 'Black Lives Mater' has a racist conotation, it polarizes people between black/white in the sense that they are essencialy opressed/opressors. This it not helping to promote tolerance but further fueling the rage from one group against another. Why not fight for the human rights of ANYONE who suffers from social injustice? Why single the ones you care most about and neglect the others? **** it.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Lippy
Yeah I mean M.I.A. has been politic and making a music about politics FOR AGES.
Now every bitch jumps on it cos it's cool.
Like where was Beyonce when MIA released Born Free? Oh yeah right, doing "Video Phone" ft. Lady Gaga
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And what did your fave do when beyonce was making videophone with gaga?
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by MiaBella
She could have said all that without name dropping, but she didn't. She's trying to downplay the BLM because it's old and the current state of the Middle East is new and needs more attention, according to her. Furthermore, why even name drop black artists fighting for the rights of a group of people who are also struggling to get their injustices recognize? Why not call out white or non-POC establishments?
And for the record, I don't recall her taking a stand for Sandra Bland Treyvon Martin, or Freddie Gray.
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Maybe she name dropped them because she knew it will attract more attention to her statement? Its not like people dont do it for far less important things like a new album promo. At least this really needs the attention.
Its not like she is puttig one issue above the other tho. It is indeed a fact that BLM and racism is a long ongoing issue, and its nothing new to talk about. Thats abolutely true. It doesnt mean however that we should stop fighting for black rights, she is not even implying that. She just asks why noone, not even those who try to do some activism talk about such huge issue as islamophoby and war in ME.
She maybe didnt took a stance specifically for Freddie Gray and others (maybe she did and I just dont remember, but the same goes for Beyonce, I dont remember her to do that either, maybe they did), but M.I.A. always supported and addressed many causes and those include also racism, black rights, struggles of black people in Africa, women rights, muslim rights, refugees rights and problems, mass surveillence issues, wars, use of chemical weapons, religious extremism, systematic genocide, poverty and so on.
You know, you can fight for more than one issue, just like other people support your issues.
Again, she is not asking of us to take stance for every issue there is, but it is indeed true that almost no artist is addressing such huge issue and the silence is quite telling.
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You can keep saying its old all day. If anything, that's a more clear indication that this **** has been going on for way too long and now than ever, we need more people to stand up for the cause. Why even compare to unrelated struggles. To her, it's not interesting any more. Why is it not interesting? Oh, because it's been happening for decades now. Right. It's beyond ignorant of her. Again, why try to downplay the struggle of one group by claiming there are far greater struggles to be fought for. No matter what YOU say, this is what SHE said.
It's so easy to call out black struggles and demand our people do more, but she's not calling out the people who hold all the power. White people. She's very ignorant.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by MiaBella
You can keep saying its old all day. If anything, that's a more clear indication that this **** has been going on for way too long and now than ever, we need more people to stand up for the cause. Why even compare to unrelated struggles. To her, it's not interesting any more. Why is it not interesting? Oh, because it's been happening for decades now. Right. It's beyond ignorant of her. Again, why try to downplay the struggle of one group by claiming there are far greater struggles to be fought for. No matter what YOU say, this is what SHE said.
It's so easy to call out black struggles and demand our people do more, but she's not calling out the people who hold all the power. White people. She's very ignorant.
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Well said
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It's also disrespectful as hell to tell black people their oppression is boring and uninteresting because it's not new.
How do you even defend this?
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by rasmushooker
I can totally see your point and I agree that what happening in the Middle East is in fact a big tragedy. But i'm just saying, why single out Beyoncé and Kendrick Lamar ? how she worded it was wrong because you shouldn't compare two difference cases like this. It isn't a competition. More celebrities and power houses should speak on the matter but you can't expect human to relate and open themselves to something they can't relate too. But I do believe that the movement should still be respected and talked about. But Beyoncé isn't the face of that revolution. Beyoncé have her own fight doing with Black Lives Matter because it's close to her heart and we should respect that. Same goes to Kendrick.
What we in reality need is a strong force celebrity which is a muslim who can talk on the matter and let the light in on the situation. If Beyoncé said anything it would just look try-hard and forced like most of the gays call Born This Way era.
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You dont have to be black to support black people and you dont have to be muslim to support muslim people or to make a stance about a war.
For muslim people its hard to even get by with all the prejudices/islamophoby growing and I cant see an openly muslim artist to make it big in the near future.
There are some muslim celebrities - athletes, writers, intelectuals doing what they can, though, but they dont have a big enough platform to make the issue go viral.
All the news arent enough to get people interested or to get them support muslims, the only thing many people took from all the devastating news from ME is that muslims are terrorists, what makes things even worse. There needs to be a conversation started, and only people with huge platform and following can do this tbh.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by MiaBella
It's also disrespectful as hell to tell black people their oppression is boring and uninteresting because it's not new.
How do you even defend this?
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I am at loss for words that people are even defending this?
And look at this "blacklivesmatter has a racist connotation" ********.
I hope people say that when gays fight for their rights. Gay rights has a sexual connotation, why not fight for every human rights. It's only when it's us. Always!!
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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Originally posted by MonsterPaw
I'm sure that Bey is aware that there are other minorities but this is about her own people. She wants to make a statement and empower black people. Why should she speak for muslims? Should she speak for gay people too? And for feminists? How about jews? Let's not. There is a time and place for everything and this is not one of these times. And Beyonce did support gay people when gay marriage was legalized and she spoke about women's rights etc.
MIA is right when she says that minorities should support each other (well she didn't say that but she hinted it ) but the Bey comment is just unnecessary.
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She didn't say or imply that minorities should support each other tho. What she did was actually the exact opposite of that in action because she just blatantly dismissed one important minority cause and chastised two black artists for speaking on issues that impact their own people simply because she feels like the issue gets more attention than a matter she is personally more concerned about. You don't have to tear down someone else's platform to build your own.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by MiaBella
You can keep saying its old all day. If anything, that's a more clear indication that this **** has been going on for way too long and now than ever, we need more people to stand up for the cause. Why even compare to unrelated struggles. To her, it's not interesting any more. Why is it not interesting? Oh, because it's been happening for decades now. Right. It's beyond ignorant of her. Again, why try to downplay the struggle of one group by claiming there are far greater struggles to be fought for. No matter what YOU say, this is what SHE said.
It's so easy to call out black struggles and demand our people do more, but she's not calling out the people who hold all the power. White people. She's very ignorant.
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She isnt downplaying anything. Its not what she said at all. Its interesting to her enough that she even addressed police brutality in her latest single and so on. And she clarified that today again, her stance about black lives is clear. What is the stance of other artists on islamophoby or ME is a mystery tho. Who is ignorant again?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BnPac
I am at loss for words that people are even defending this?
And look at this "blacklivesmatter has a racist connotation" ********.
I hope people say that when gays fight for their rights. Gay rights has a sexual connotation, why not fight for every human rights. It's only when it's us. Always!!
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And I actually almost replied to that mess, but I can't be bothered to explain, yet again, the reasoning behind BLM. And I'm not even a BLM supporter anymore. But it's common damn sense why the movement itself exist. Black people are always the ones having to defend why and how they fight against their injustices. And while they're telling us what and how to be offended, they will constantly remind us that their are far "greater" struggles in the world.
But will show the hell out over some gay pride and rights.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by Lippy
Yeah I mean M.I.A. has been politic and making a music about politics FOR AGES.
Now every bitch jumps on it cos it's cool.
Like where was Beyonce when MIA released Born Free? Oh yeah right, doing "Video Phone" ft. Lady Gaga
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You make no sense whatsoever. Beyoncé's music is not political, people give a political connotation to it.
Formation is a celebration of her black and creole roots.
In 2006 Beyoncé had a song called "Black Culture".
In 2006 Beyoncé had a song called "Creole".
Educate yourself before addressing a subject you clearly are not familiar with.
Her celebration of her heritage is not something new, what is new is the violent reaction people have against it now because she also called out racist pig officers for killing people simply because they are black.
And in 2009 when MIA released Born Free, other artists already dangle in social matters, is that a reason for her not to be political? You definitely make no sense.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Bríseis
She isnt downplaying anything. Its not what she said at all. Its interesting to her enough that she even addressed police brutality in her latest single and so on. And she clarified that today again, her stance about black lives is clear. What is the stance of other artists on islamophoby or ME is a mystery tho. Who is ignorant again?
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"It's not a new thing to me - it's what Lauryn Hill was saying in the 1990s, or Public Enemy in the 1980s. Is Beyoncé or Kendrick Lamar going to say Muslim Lives Matter? Or Syrian Lives Matter? Or this kid in Pakistan matters? That's a more interesting question.
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Why should we, as black people, even care what's new to her? You don't understand how ridiculous she sounds? There are new, younger generations if black kids being killed in the streets and behind jail bars TODAY. In 2016. It's ****ing new to them.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by MiaBella
The person who said this:
Why should we, as black people, even care what's new to her? You don't understand how ridiculous she sounds? There are new, younger generations if black kids being killed in the streets and behind jail bars TODAY. In 2016. It's ****ing new to them.
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She is stating a fact indeed, its a long ongoing issue and its sad that it still is such a big issue even in the most developped countries. She is not saying its over though, just stating that its much more openly talked about issue and asking when will the activists with huge platforms address issues that are not as commonly talked about. Its coming from a rare artist that supports muslims and blacks, while being neither.
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Member Since: 3/8/2014
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Originally posted by Ascension
She didn't say or imply that minorities should support each other tho. What she did was actually the exact opposite of that in action because she just blatantly dismissed one important minority cause and chastised two black artists for speaking on issues that impact their own people simply because she feels like the issue gets more attention than a matter she is personally more concerned about. You don't have to tear down someone else's platform to build your own.
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I agree with you 100%.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Originally posted by Bríseis
You dont have to be black to support black people and you dont have to be muslim to support muslim people or to make a stance about a war.
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as I said we all should respect and talk about the situation.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
For muslim people its hard to even get by with all the prejudices/islamophoby growing and I cant see an openly muslim artist to make it big in the near future.
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Zayn Malik says hello
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Originally posted by Bríseis
There are some muslim celebrities - athletes, writers, intelectuals doing what they can, though, but they dont have a big enough platform to make the issue go viral.
All the news arent enough to get people interested or to get them support muslims, the only thing many people took from all the devastating news from ME is that muslims are terrorists, what makes things even worse. There needs to be a conversation started, and only people with huge platform and following can do this tbh.
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That is simply not true. The movement starts with the people and with yourself. Just because Beyoncé tweets or hashtag about the problem doesn't mean that people are going to chance their view of the situation. Like I said in my first post, you gotta see what you can bring to the table. Talk with your friends and family about the topic. Start at home, not with the celebrities. And ignorance starts and come from your own house. Be the smarter person and use your voice. It can do much more than you think.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by rasmushooker
as I said we all should respect and talk about the situation.
Zayn Malik says hello
That is simply not true. The movement starts with the people and with yourself. Just because Beyoncé tweets or hashtag about the problem doesn't mean that people are going to chance their view of the situation. Like I said in my first post, you gotta see what you can bring to the table. Talk with your friends and family about the topic. Start at home, not with the celebrities. And ignorance starts and come from your own house. Be the smarter person and use your voice. It can do much more than you think.
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Never heard about Zayn Malik, if he is muslim, it would be very appreciated if he addressed it and motivated people to learn more about the problem.
And dont go for me. You dont know anything about me, you would be very surprised at what Im doing in real life or why am I supposed to travel to Basra next september if everything goes well. On the other hand, there is clearly need for a huge conversation, because its obvious that people dont care enough to get more knowledgeable about the issue and huge part of the population sees muslims as terrorists. We need to talk about this openly, and to someone to bring the topic and make it go viral when so many are avoiding it. Thats all I have to say. Need to catch a train now.
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