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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Not Hillary appearing as the moderate liberal compromiser when she was more liberal on votes than Obama, the "socialist" 
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New NBC Poll: 38% of Democrats do NOT want Joe Biden to run, opposed to 30% who do.
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Originally posted by Giselle
New NBC Poll: 38% of Democrats do NOT want Joe Biden to run, opposed to 30% who do. |
lol Biden don't give a **** he's running anyway. He's just not gonna win
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@HillaryforNV - delighted to meet with such a great group of @HillaryClinton supporters in #Nevada today!
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Queen Madeleine 
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..but she couldn't say the words "Black Lives Matter" on live tv. She kinda lost me there.
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She wasn't asked it.
If you didn't notice, the focus and nature of the question shifted before she had an opportunity to answer the Black Lives Matter question in any direct capacity.
Believe me, I was watching closely during that segment - a student from my school asked the question.
He personally stated:
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Wilkins said he was overall very pleased with the candidates’ responses. He said Hillary Clinton’s answer was the strongest.
“She did not utter the phrase black lives matter while answering the question, but she did mention there is a need for a new deal for communities of color,” Wilkins said.
Wilkins said he appreciated Clinton's answer because it was a call for government to get involved in improving racial disparities in the U.S.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b06462a13b7340
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Apparently George W. has been badmouthing Ted Cruz to donors.
Drag him, King! |
He has time to drag Cruz but let his lieutenant governor flop? What kinda Bey leaving Gaga out to dry teas...
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Biden has been running for President all along...
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Put yourself in Biden’s shoes. It is January 2015, and you’re a sitting vice president who ran for president in 1988 and 2008 with less-than-encouraging results. The party’s 2008 runner-up is running again and holds leads on the order of 50 points in the polls. Reluctantly, you decide this just isn’t the year.
But then this email scandal breaks. Your son’s dying wish is for you to seek the Oval Office. And over the summer, a socialist overtakes Clinton in New Hampshire, and gains on her in Iowa. Her national vote total falls below 50 percent.
So realize over the summer that this undertaking is actually doable. You pretty much have control of your personal demons. You miss your son greatly, and how better to honor him than running? You’ve run before and lost, but that was as the senator from Delaware (the junior senator from Delaware on the first go-round), not the sitting vice president. Your poll numbers could be better, but people aren’t stupid, and are less likely to support a candidate that they aren’t sure is even running. You suspect you’ll get a bounce if you announce.
One of your demons, however, gives you great pause. Like all demons, it goes by many names. Sometimes it calls itself Fred Thompson. At other times it goes by Wesley Clark, while Rick Perry is the name preferred at other times. It represents the late entrants of the past decade, who all flamed out.
Now, you’re fundamentally different from these candidates in that you’re a sitting vice president, not a retired general or a former senator who ran his last campaign a decade earlier. But their candidacies all collapsed for the same reasons: some combination of not being prepared on the issues, not having adequate funds, or simply peaking too soon.
Given all of this, what’s the best way to avoid becoming like them? You have a two-pronged strategy. You keep leaking news about potential announcements, so that the press keeps covering you. That keeps interest up, as the press would love a real race to cover on the Democratic side. You go on late-night talk shows to humanize yourself.
That’s the public face. Behind the scenes, you work like a madman. You get the fundraising team in place, so you have quick commitments to put to rest any doubts that you will be able to compete going forward. You have your major field teams on standby. You know the issues pretty well – you’re a sitting vice president, after all – but you work to familiarize yourself on the price of arugula and develop a crisp message. In the meantime, you watch the frontrunner struggle with the news media and enjoy her declining poll numbers.
In other words, I think there’s a third possibility out there: Joe Biden has, in fact, been running for president for a couple months. But rather than distract from Hillary Clinton’s troubles, and to avoid being the flawed, late entrant, he has been doing his work behind the scenes. If this is right and Biden declares, he’ll have a well-oiled machine ready to hit the ground running.
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this definitely seems very accurate  who knew Biden was so cunning.
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Rubio presenting a bill that everyone says would get his own ass in trouble 
"After missing almost a third of Senate votes this year, Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio made a rare appearance in the Senate Tuesday — to try and pass a bill that would crack down on federal employees who fail to do their jobs. “This should actually be the rule in the entire government,” the Florida senator said. “If you’re not doing your job, you should be fired.” The Florida senator has missed more votes than any of the other senators competing for the GOP nomination — Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. His rivals have made it an issue in the campaign, and so did Democrats. “Pro tip from Marco Rubio to Marco Rubio: If you don’t do your job, you should be fired,” said Christina Freundlich, a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee."
http://www.bradenton.com/news/politi...e40517826.html
The shade of it all 
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Meanwhile at the House:
Ryan, 45, is expected to continue meeting Wednesday with House Republicans to explore his reluctant candidacy for speaker, evaluating whether the groundswell of enthusiasm that has greeted him in recent weeks can be sustained over the long haul. At the top of Ryan’s list of demands, his associates said, is a desire to lead the House GOP as its spokesman and agenda setter without the threat of revolt from the right, halting a dynamic that has dominated the tumultuous speakership of John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), who announced last month that he would leave Congress at the end of October.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...html?tid=sm_tw
Paul Ryan tearing into the Tea Party like that 
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Meanwhile at the House:
Ryan, 45, is expected to continue meeting Wednesday with House Republicans to explore his reluctant candidacy for speaker, evaluating whether the groundswell of enthusiasm that has greeted him in recent weeks can be sustained over the long haul. At the top of Ryan’s list of demands, his associates said, is a desire to lead the House GOP as its spokesman and agenda setter without the threat of revolt from the right, halting a dynamic that has dominated the tumultuous speakership of John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), who announced last month that he would leave Congress at the end of October.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...html?tid=sm_tw
Paul Ryan tearing into the Tea Party like that |
I can't even comprehend why the far right hates him. I went on Breitbart a couple days ago (for a project, don't @ me) and the whole sidebar was articles trashing him. Like...he's on your side, a disgusting conservative prick that hates women
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I can't even comprehend why the far right hates him. I went on Breitbart a couple days ago (for a project, don't @ me) and the whole sidebar was articles trashing him. Like...he's on your side, a disgusting conservative prick that hates women |
Such messy infighting 
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I can't even comprehend why the far right hates him. I went on Breitbart a couple days ago (for a project, don't @ me) and the whole sidebar was articles trashing him. Like...he's on your side, a disgusting conservative prick that hates women |
Because grassroots conservatives are super against illegal immigration and the trade deal. They have become the main two issues for them, and Ryan is on the opposite side. Plus they are afraid of a John Beohner part 2.
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Not everybody can be Queen Nance.
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I hope Ryan gets speaker. It would be a biT easier to watch C-SPAN with him presiding. 
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Because grassroots conservatives are super against illegal immigration and the trade deal. They have become the main two issues for them, and Ryan is on the opposite side. Plus they are afraid of a John Beohner part 2.
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But he's so far right. Like damn. You can't get everything.
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I hope Ryan gets speaker. It would be a biT easier to watch C-SPAN with him presiding. |
He's literally my least favorite person in politics. I was happy leaving him in 2012 
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Not voting for Biden if he gets in. This running/not running game he and the media are playing just turns me off completely. It's beyond annoying.
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Originally posted by Giselle
Hillary is also threatening (to women and men) because of how stately she is. Most people don't like women who are actually smart, lmfao. Biden has an appeal because he doesn't seem as worldly. He doesn't seem as grandiose. He seems like.. the average Joe. |
I just Hillary wouldn't lecture like an old Catholic nun when she talks. It makes her seem quite cold, and non compassionate. 
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
I just Hillary wouldn't lecture like an old Catholic nun when she talks. It makes her seem quite cold, and non compassionate. |
We need better speakers in general. Not everyone can be the next Obama, Trump, or (Bill) Clinton
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Hillary doesnt give me nun when she speaks. She talks like a smug player.
If anything, Bernie speaks like a shouting preacher. 
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