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Originally posted by Giselle
1. We all know Libya was a failure. But my point is that Libya has practically become a buzzword. Commonly thrown around by those who hate her. So the real question was what issue do you have with her tenure OTHER than the buzzword issue mostly used by people don't even know what happened there? Have you actually read up on her time as SoS? Or did you just read a few slanted articles and think you're a know it all?
2. You don't care about or "stan" any politician yet you come in here calling him "Daddy O" and feel the need to retort with "Obama would beat her again! She's so unlikable!" when I say I prefer her and Biden to him.
3. I don't "stan" her or any politician. But I do admire her VERY much and consider her one of my influences. She's one of the most accomplished and important women in history so I don't see the issue. It's ATRL, so yes, I will have a silly avi and be messy in my posts.
4. I'm not sure how that's your metric when you aren't using the same standard for Hillary. Because if you are, are we REALLY going to say our world affairs was in a better place before she took office? And me saying I don't feel Obama has been a very good leader doesn't mean I think George Bush was.
5. Lastly, you can say he was in "mess exacerbated by Hillary", but even there, you seem to absolve him of his role in everything. HE was Commander in Chief. HE is as responsible for anything in his administration as his cabinet members are. |
1) Because Libya was the ONLY thing of consequence she dealt with during her tenure and she ****ed it up. Can you name anything, on that scale, that she
achieved in terms of foreign policy in that time? Because the impact of the failure outweighs the positives from where I'm standing. Kerry has clearly been more effective in the issues he's been handed.
Certainly, there's a reason why she doesn't tout any "achievements" as SoS as one of her strengths in the public sphere, it would backfire on her.
2) Okay and I was doting on O'Malley in the primaries, when he didn't have a chance in hell. Not sure what my thirst has to do with politics.
3) The issue is, because of the Trump threat, not many of her supporters are looking at her candidacy more critically.
4) It
is my metric because I'm considering the tangible terrorist state Hillary endorsed through her involvement in Libya. And the tangible results of her support of discriminatory crime bills. And the tangible fallout of a war she voted in favor of. Those had real consequences. Those are her MAJOR failings, buzzwords even, fine. But then what are her MAJOR successes? Again, to combat the [i]scale[\i] of those losses?
5) Nothing I said suggests as much. Exacerbated is very well defined verb. In the words of Madonna, you should look it up.
tl;dr - what has Hillary done to her success that cancels out her major failures with the crime bills, Iraq, and Libya? I guarantee you won't even find 2 things.
