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ATRL: ATRL's Next Top Member 12 | The Curtain Closes. Fin.
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Originally posted by Citrus
I actually like Giselle, I just dislike the attitude of "Haha you tried too hard". Like the dumb kids in school who act as if their lack of caring is a good thing.
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You don't need to like me, cause I don't like you It's nothing like "dumb kids in school" because school is an important, real life thing and this is an online game. Get a grip.
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Before we get to our top three, we have two more judges to get to.
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My dull af interview being posted in the midst of the mess bubbling up in here
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Originally posted by marq
First, I wouldn't consider myself a "fairly popular" member. I'm not really sure how I won that public poll, but I wouldn't use that as an indicator of my popularity.
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Confirmation that Marq used his ~20 some dupes. I demand an IP check.
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I'm still PISSED Marq got eliminated (granted, he was immediately brought back, but w/e) over his gif. It was probably my favorite besides my own Citrus's gif entry was arguably one of the worst submitted in the entire competition, so I'll never understand how Marq's dramatic Drake zoom gif (<3) got him the boot
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Originally posted by iHype.
Yes I could stan for One Direction, but thankfully I have too much self-awareness.
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Being runner up is an awkward place to be. You were so close, but you just didn't quite make it there. But it doesn't always mean a bad thing! Sometimes runner ups go on to be even bigger then the winner of the season, here is a fan favorite contestant and celebrity stalker, and joining me, Dancehall, Scene, and Boyonce in the list of runner ups, Vespertine!
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You were my initial pick for the finale, and several others, did you feel like you had added pressure to do well?
I wasn't aware tbh.
You always fell short of a win, and got so close, but in the end you ended up in the finale how do you feel about your time on top member?
I'm proud of how far I got being entirely true to myself. No shade to the judges or other contestants, but I've always (aka over the two cycles I've followed this competition) felt like overly sentimental or personal entries tend to be praised. I'm not into that at all since none of that is anyone's business but my own! So I stuck with my style all along, for better or for worse, and I think it mostly paid off.
Were you surprised when the judges kept you over iHype? Do you think he deserved to go home?
I was very (pleasantly) surprised considering my thread was the least successful. However, I must say that I didn't like iHype or Citrus's threads at all (sorry girls ), though I must congratulate them both for being so successful. I thought Marq deserved to win that challenge since his thread was the least thirsty and trite, and kept it about music. All the Lounge threads that were submitted (including my own to some extent tbh) were pretty tried-and-true attractions for post *****s.
During the finale a lot of people, including myself thought that Citrus had it in the bag, did you feel like he did or did you still think it was a fair enough race?
I thought I had a fair chance, especially after seeing the judges' wonderful comments about my speech, but deep down I expected Citrus would win with his outstanding track record. OH speaking of the judges' commentary, I just want to say that I later realized Supa included a WMYB reference AND I LOVE HIM FOR IT.
You’re obviously a top member in your own right both in the game and on ATRL do you think you could have done a little bit better in the game?
I don't know. Probably, but I just did what I felt like doing and accepted the results as they came.
In your least and most top member potential entry you said Citrus was just a basic white twink with drag queen as avatars and isn’t interesting, do you still feel like that’s true?
@ at this paraphrasing. I didn't say it quite like that. Go re-read my thingy for my thoughts!
What does the future hold for you and Luis?
We will continue our domestic partnership forever. We don't need no piece of paper from the city hall. We will adopt two Rottweilers, name them Mulder and Scully, and move to a private house by the beach where I don't have to interact with the rest of society. We will also get a cozy cabin in the woods, for when I'm feeling particularly Thoreau-ish. We will get commitment watches at some point in the future; watches are the only type of jewelry I wear. We will offer Niall financial support when 1D end. I will paint Louis in the nude. He will bake me chocolate peanut butter cookies.
Following your loss, Bjork tweeted her support to you and released her album two months earlier! Do you feel honored to get respect from such an amazing artist?
I wept and wept (Louis politely asked me to stop pulling a "February Perry") omg! Vulnicura is her best album since Medulla (though Volta and Biophilia are also magnificent). I recommend buying it RIGHT NOW http://smarturl.it/Vulnicura
(From Dancehall) Why don't you make love to me like you use to? We're both runner ups now, it should make us closer then ever?
I'm sorry, but don't you see the problem here? Two runner ups pro-creating? Our offspring would be a total loser.
(From Dancehall) How does it feel that Matty single handly choose Citrus over you?
If he really loves Katy and that baby Katie supposedly gave birth to, he should invest in an alarm system.
(From Dancehall)LOVE ME :WEEPS:
Omg, I'm taken! Louis and I are fireproof, sorry bb. Maybe we can pencil you in for something fun tho.
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Originally posted by Giselle
You don't need to like me, cause I don't like you It's nothing like "dumb kids in school" because school is an important, real life thing and this is an online game. Get a grip.
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Bolding things doesn't make your point sound better. And I do like you; I think anyone who is brave enough to embrace their true identity in such an intolerant world commands respect. But you'll be happy to know that I'm on track to attend a top university on mostly scholarship money in real life.
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Originally posted by Citrus
Bolding things doesn't make your point sound better. And I do like you; I think anyone who is brave enough to embrace their true identity in such an intolerant world commands respect. But you'll be happy to know that I'm on track to attend a top university on mostly scholarship money in real life.
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Congratulations....? You're still desperate.
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I was very (pleasantly) surprised considering my thread was the least successful. However, I must say that I didn't like iHype or Citrus's threads at all (sorry girls ), though I must congratulate them both for being so successful. I thought Marq deserved to win that challenge since his thread was the least thirsty and trite, and kept it about music. All the Lounge threads that were submitted (including my own to some extent tbh) were pretty tried-and-true attractions for post *****s.
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I actually did go look at Vespertine's comments on citrus and this was his actual quote
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He has a big personality, but frankly white twink with drag queens + sassy black women avatars isn't exactly a unique persona on ATRL.
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here is a fan favorite contestant and celebrity stalker
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Desperation for success is called ambition. Give it a try and you might amount to something!
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I hate that I only came up with that Bjork one (that you butchered my wording in btw) and get credited for the three afrer it that are believable as me.
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Originally posted by Citrus
Desperation for online success is called being sad. Give it a try and you might win an ATRL game too
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Originally posted by Mica
I hate that I only came up with that Bjork one (that you butchered my wording in btw) and get credited for the three afrer it that are believable as me.
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Idk what you're talking about, those were the exact questions you asked me. I'll post screenshots if I have too.
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Citrus' posts originally said "try it and you might actually amount to something" or something like that, just saying Own your shade!
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Originally posted by Mica
I hate that I only came up with that Bjork one (that you butchered my wording in btw) and get credited for the three afrer it that are believable as me.
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edit: wait bitch, respect Mother Bj örk's name.
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See but the thing is, I just did well in a game and now that means I'm desperate for success here. If I was desperate I'd be some trash member with 23,000 posts and no contribution to show for it.
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Top Member would be nothing without a host, and if it wasn't for Matty for bringing us all together none of this would have been possible, so lets all welcome Matty to dish out his final thoughts for the season!
I assume he's almost in tears after reading the reunion.
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Matty Banks! The person who brings us all together for about a month or so for this event. You're on your sixth season now, more then any Top Member host now. Are you happy with the following you've created?
Wow, I never realized that started this season I have now surpassed original maker Angelo has the longest running host. I've already been the longest running judge, judging since cycle 3 as part of my win for winning cycle 2. I'm really happy with how well the game has done throughout the years and the following it has made. Sure it comes with its controversies, but that means people are only taking it seriously and paying attention. This competition/tournament has a really special place in my heart and like I've stated in the OP, its a game that really shouldn't die. As Red has stated, the top two, and some of the others in the cast, have really shown to become top members taking this forum by storm.
Like every season, I have to ask, how did this season go? How did everything turn out?
I think this season went really well! We had a great cast of new faces and old faces looking for redemption. It was a real strong competition and surprises happening. I'm still a little upset about how the Comeback happened... again. I love the idea of the Comeback because it gives a chance to come back into the competition to win after being eliminated. It's a way to say a big **** you to the judges, and me especially since I do the posting, for eliminating. I think most just get so upset about their original elimination that don't feel like/have the energy to keep going. Thank God for good sises Giselle and Melvin for sticking with it til the very end (minus one challenge for Giselle) during their respective cycles.
There was a big "Newbies vs. Veteran" semi-controversy thing this season, and a big question arose on what actually IS Top Member for? Can you elaborate your feelings on this?
I can see why people would question what is top member exactly for and honestly I've started thinking about it to a certain extent. Overall Top Member is a competition that allows you to take a good look at yourself as member; how you display yourself (avatars, username), how you present yourself (threads, smileys, gifs), and the overall personality you are providing to the forum. it's a competition so we're obviously going to judge, rank, score, and eliminate people to see who can go through all the challenges while showing the most potential. Obviously any one can go on the forum and do this without the competition. Top Member is meant to be that foot in the door to your own potential and have you actually take a look at yourself. What all you bring to the table basically. I've started kind of questioning what the competition is exactly for, but I think it's more on trying to improve the game. ATRL is ever changing, so there are different aspects that we need to look at to get closer to this idea of perfect comeptition; but there really isn't a thing called perfection.
There was also a big stir about what types of members Top Member winners can be. Some say the loud, ratchet, and messy members can't win and its only for those who are clean, and polished. Do you think there's room for both types of winners?
Are people not looking at the list of winners and runner-ups? Of course there is room for all types of members to be a winner! I mean look at Edge, he was considered, and to some bases still, messy. You had people like Satellites, Jimmy, Deuces, etc who were loud and not going to stay quiet. Then on the flip side you have people like Me and Mitchie who can be considered clean and polished. Then you have people like Foxay and Kitt who brought this somewhat perfect blend of loud and clean and polished. Anyone can win this game. Like I said in the previous question, it is more about showing your potential to be a top member among a lot of members. Ya'll need to do your research
Another semi-controversy was Supa vs. iHype. It was obvious Supa didn't like iHype at all, and some feel like this bias caused an elimination while others think its no big deal. In further cycles do you think you'll try to keep the judges bias or dislike for contestants at a low?
In a game at this caliber, especially when you get closer to the end, there is going to be some low key bias. In the end this is life but on an online platform. I try to have my judges stay bias free, but this isn't a perfect world. For the most part I see the judges keeping whatever possible bias they have to a hush until they are eliminated. If anything you could also say "Supa didn't like Jax either" from comments made early on in the competition and what not. In the end, yes we are looking what you present us in entry forum, but we're also looking at your overall attitude as well. All aspects come into play, especially towards the end of the competition when things are getting tight. We're going to nit pick anything we can so we can get closer to a winner. In conclusion, I'm not going to change anything in future cycles. Just follow one of my mottos I live by in life; you can't make everyone happy, so smile and move along. If they already don't like you and then you're going to make a big deal out of something, that only fuels that dislike they have for you. It's best to just stay quiet, move along, and try to quietly change their minds.
This season the game moved to the lounge section, although it wasn't as successful as previous seasons, it did bring in a great cast. For next season do you plan on keeping it in the lounge or moving it back to its original games section?
My whole reason for moving it to The Lounge was because I felt like the game needed more exposure. The Games section is getting a bad rap as an unnecessary part of the forum that should be removed from members. Obviously, I say BS. Honestly a lot of these members can benefit from going to the Games section to take a break from their regularly scheduled program of over stanning and getting banned. The Games section has also, from what I have noticed, have the same people in every single game every single time every possible new season. In order for this game to thrive and survive, we need new people to participate. Obviously I'm not going to turn down returning members because they could end up being the next Scene and Citrus. Granted when they did their first seasons they were relatively really new and haven't really found themselves yet. Then they reauditioned and found their footing. The game just needs new faces and personalities. This forum is big enough. Ultimately, the Games section has been the home of ANTM since cycle one that people felt it was weird in The Lounge. I think for Cycle 13 I will return it to the games section, but I may make it first in The Lounge to gain applicants. Then, just as the game is about to start, move it back to Games.
I need to ask what are you final thoughts on iHypegate so we can close this mess?
I honestly don't know what more to say. Yes, iHypes thread was the biggest hit out of the top four. Nobody, NOBODY, is taking that away from him. Look at the comments that I did receive, each one said he had the hit thread out of everyone. However, if you look at the fine print of the challenge, it says "...the amount of viewers/replies will/can be used in determining your scores/ranks for this challenge." Will/can be used, it was never guaranteed that the whole ranking and scoring was going to be based on it. Ultimately, like every other challenge, we focus a lot on quality more than everything. Yes, he had the biggest thread, but was it a thread we thought a member of top member potential to make? From the score and the ranking, it was a no. Then the reason why he was eliminated was because I gave the judges scenarios of if these members were in the bottom two, who would you want to stay. Majority said Vespertine should stay. As to why on that decision, I gave my two cents, so did Edge and Supaspaz. Most came down to outside factors besides the entries. Which I mentioned in a previous question does happen when it gets down to the wire like it was.
There was no guest judges this season? Not even a guest runner up one either. Por que?
I decided on no guest judges this season because I already had six judges. I originally only had planned for five judges, but then Red popped up saying he wanted to host another season. I've also loved Red as a judge, so of course I'm going to fit him in. Thus I felt like with permanent six judges, guest judges just weren't needed. I also started Top Member, during probably a wrong time in my scheduled life. There just wasn't enough time to find guest judges this cycle. I think I even promised DOMINO a guest judge position for a challenge, so I apologize to him for not making that happen. There was also a lot of other things I wanted to do as well, but just didn't have the time to bring it into fruition with my schedule.
As always what can we expect to see for the future of Top Member?
For the most part you can expect the same ol same ol. I'm trying to think about more new challenges and revise things to better ANTM. Also, probably expect a change up in the usual judges. I love the judges I've used, but I feel like life is more important to them now. Which I'm not complaining and totally understand. Whenever I do the next cycle of Top Member, I'll probably be fully dived into full-time and part-time jobs. So, my time will probably limited as well. It's just best to have some judges who are more there so we don't have to keep making push backs like this cycle
So who was your initial top pick for this cycle? Did who you thought would do well, do well, and were you disappointed by anyone?
My initial top pick was Cupid. I'll wait for the responses from him and others, like "Then why did you choose to eliminate me/him". Are ya'll done? Okay. The reason why I had him as my top pick is because he is a fantastic member; well rounded, knows about ATRL and its rules, and knows himself. However, as the weeks went by, I truly noticed he doesn't need this competition. I started seeing and really see him now as someone I would truly want to have as judge instead of as a contestant. That's a major compliment. Now as someone who disappointed me, BeyRih. I wont' go more into why she disappointed me. Ya'll can go read about that in DOMINO's Les ATRLers reunion. The same would apply for this.
Were you glad to see so many returns this cycle?
I kind of already talked about this in a previous question a little bit, about how we see the same people in the same games over and over again. So in that case, no, I was not glad to see so many returns this cycle. Although on the flip side, I was glad. Those who did return did deserve second chances because they all had amazing potential. Some are still either failing to see it or having a hard time reeling their potential in and controlling it.
Any final words for our winner Citrus?
I think I said all I needed to say to Citrus in my little speech when he was announced as winner. Just congratulations again, you were a strong competitor, and I hope you're ready to be a judge in Cycle 13.
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But do you, Giselle. If you're looking for more things about me to drag, I've gained 7 pounds since November.
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nnn; the tension going on in here
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However, if you look at the fine print of the challenge, it says "...the amount of viewers/replies will/can be used in determining your scores/ranks for this challenge." Will/can be used, it was never guaranteed that the whole ranking and scoring was going to be based on it. Ultimately, like every other challenge, we focus a lot on quality more than everything. Yes, he had the biggest thread, but was it a thread we thought a member of top member potential to make? From the score and the ranking, it was a no. Then the reason why he was eliminated was because I gave the judges scenarios of if these members were in the bottom two, who would you want to stay. Majority said Vespertine should stay. As to why on that decision, I gave my two cents, so did Edge and Supaspaz. Most came down to outside factors besides the entries. Which I mentioned in a previous question does happen when it gets down to the wire like it was.
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