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Chart News: HDD: Ciara 19-22k, M&S 245-265k
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Superpower
Karma is real. This is what they get for undeservedly winning Album Of The Year
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No. Their previous albums were amazing!!!! This one though
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Ciara nnnnnnnnnnnn
Guess this is Karma for all those stans laughing at Rih.
In all honesty the album is mediocre, she shouldn't have released I Bet as a lead single if most of the music on the album doesn't match up/sound anything like it. She alienated alot of her core fans with this album.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
'Love Sex Magic' was a quick little pop hit for Ciara and she still saw her lowest first week sales and overall sales at that time, so I think the public has made up its mind on Ciara, regardless of what genre she tackles.
And 4 isn't a good comparison because it still went platinum without huge singles. That's power, something Ciara doesn't have.
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This is true, but this is the most pop we have gotten from Ciara since then - so they might as well try to push her in that direction or go back to her crunk sound that made her famous. Jazze Pha probably wouldn't work with her anymore since they parted ways but I liked the idea a member said of her working with DJ Mustard and other producers like that.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 27,830
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
No one is exaggerating the power of pop demographics, the point is if her album consists of many pop songs why would she not try and release one as a lead? We don't know how well it'd do but if EPIC tried to push it- it could have became a hit on pop radio and then they could go from there. They could have even done a dual release with I Bet/Kiss & Tell to test out the market before her album was released.
This campaign is messy as hell no matter how you look at it. And yes her fanbase is mainly urban but where are they at ow? If they wanted to support Ci they still would have irregardless if she went more commercial this time around. Bey went commercial. Look at Bey's IA...SF. that ended up becoming her biggest selling album in recent years and she went completely commercial.
Then look what happened when she released 4, arguably her best album yet none of her singles stuck. Ci and Epic didn't even try to push her undoubtedly commercial songs and now we won't know how it would have done if they had.
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Exactly
This era can be saved if they actually release some singles though.
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Member Since: 8/11/2012
Posts: 5,375
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Ci stans are embarrassing themselves trying Rihanna, are you seeing this? A fourth consecutive flop with her worst numbers to date. INVEST in your fave stop putting so much energy in hate. Rihanna wins in this industry no matter what
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Marvin
Fantasy Ride: label drama and the whole album was already on the internet for MONTHS
Basic Instinct: same as Fantasy Ride
Ciara: pregnancy ended the era
Jackie: urban lead single for a pop album
She hasn't had a well executed era since The Evolution. It's not about the genre of the music; it's honestly all about the promo and marketing. Ciara would've done better if she didn't get pregnant and had released Overdose and Jackie will do better if they release the right singles from now on.
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Its actually about trash music minimal talent as a musician.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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It's sad how people are trying to kick her while she's down though.. there's a reason why Ci's still here and will continue to be here. Just praying her team doesn't make the same mistake by not releasing Overdose last time and get the right singles out with HEAVY promotion.
At least then if they try it and it still fails, we can say ok time for a new strategy. But they didn't even try to give her heavy promo slots like the other pop girls (Ari/Iggy/Charli/Meghan, etc.) so it's not fair to say she's out yet.
Ci is a great performer too I need EPIC to step their promo team up cause they are the ones that is failing Ci right now.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 5,754
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Originally posted by YouDaIcon
R&B Icon and getting scalped by Jennifer Hudson, Keyshia Cole, K. Michelle?
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Hey K. Michelle debuted with 79K with her second studio album and had less than half the airplay that Ciara has got. Dont knock her.
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Member Since: 3/20/2011
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Originally posted by YouDaIcon
Its actually about trash music minimal talent as a musician.
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Um. I'm not even gonna go there so k.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
Correction, her core audience used to be urban. Ci has been leaning towards pop for quite some time now and they should have marketed her that way. If her album consists of primarily pop songs, but you release an urban single as the lead - you are creating the wrong brand for your product.
See her first week sales as proof. "Kiss & Tell" is easily the most radio friendly single on her album (produced by Dr. Luke) with an even greater cross-over potential than "Dance Like We're Making Love". Whether she released "DLWML" as the first single and then "K&T" as the follow up before the album or vice-versa, either way her single choice was wrong for this album.
She might not be able to shift a lot of albums this era but she can definitely get a hit with K&T if she releases it this summer or fall (hoping for the summer).
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Her core is still urban. I mean for every pop fan who buys a Ciara album there are at least 10 urban fans who buy a Ciara album. Pop radio is not going to randomly pick up a Ciara solo song after 6/ nearly 7 years, she needs to cater to the format that will play her songs no matter what. I Bet is a perfect lead for this, and DLWML is a great follow up that eases people into the Pop stuff while still being Urban enough to be played by radio. THEN she can release a pop single (hopefully not KaT) but for the time being Urban is her market.
The ONLY thing that is lowering the sales is the lack of lead up to the album. This whole "the lead doesnt represent the album" stuff is silly as a general consumer doesn't know what the album sounds like until the buy it. Heck, album sales in 2015 are more due to loyality/ fanbases then randoms watching the Today Show. If she released 2/3 singles before album release, i'm sure we would be seeing self-titled numbers, people just don't know the album exists.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by DownBoy
No wonder she's flopping when she makes boring slow songs her lead singles (Body Party, I Bet). Become a POP GIRL and make some catchy BANGERS! You have everything you need and Love, Sex, Magic is the path she should have continued (no wonder Fantasy Ride is her best album, by far far).
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did you listen to the album? everything besides the lead single is what you just said she should be releasing
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by EnoughSaid
Ci stans are embarrassing themselves trying Rihanna, are you seeing this? A fourth consecutive flop with her worst numbers to date. INVEST in your fave stop putting so much energy in hate. Rihanna wins in this industry no matter what
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Yet, American Sulfur is literally tumbling down the charts as we speak sis.. maybe you Rhitards should focus on your fave and stop worrying about what the CSquad has going on.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Kweenara
Yet, American Sulfur is literally tumbling down the charts as we speak sis.. maybe you Rhitards should focus on your fave and stop worrying about what the CSquad has going on.
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Not you coming for American Oxygen when 45S and BBHMM is still crushing ANY Ciara single in years.
The shade is AO is STILL going to punch 'I Bet' square in the adam's apple when she performs it on SNL.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by YouDaIcon
Not you coming for American Oxygen when 45S and BBHMM is still crushing ANY Ciara single in years.
The shade is AO is STILL going to punch 'I Bet' square in the adam's apple when she performs it on SNL.
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1st of all you since you clearly cannot read, I was talking about American Sulfur, which has only sold 20k to date, you ILLITERATE ***. BBHMM has been out how long and hasnt scanned gold yet, even with that huge IHeartRadio performance? How dare you come for Ciara when your fave can't even get a release date? And pls, dont even let me get started on Ugleezelia.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Kweenara
Yet, American Sulfur is literally tumbling down the charts as we speak sis.. maybe you Rhitards should focus on your fave and stop worrying about what the CSquad has going on.
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But yet before these tragic first week sales came out, the C-Squad was more focused on the R8 era then their own faves.
And mess at you ignoring her other two singles.
You and i both know their doing way better than most of Ciara's singles, so you drag AO2 instead.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by M A R C
But yet before these tragic first week sales came out, the C-Squad was more focused on the R8 era then their own faves.
And mess at you ignoring her other two singles.
You and i both know their doing way better than most of Ciara's singles, so you drag AO2 instead.
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Girl, with R8 still being held and American H2O performing magic acts and disappearing from the charts, is Rhianna even focused on the album? Nobody's ignoring any other singles either sis, I tuggeD at Bitch Betta Buy My Singles too.
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Member Since: 7/4/2007
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YOUR TOP 15: MUMFORD AMPS UP FOR #1Glassnote's Banjo-Free Brits Top Next Week's Chart; As Many as Seven Debuts Could Hit Top 15
Mumford & Sons will score their second #1 debut next week on both our sales and SPS charts. As many as seven debuts may finish in the Top 15. Here's how it looks headed into Mother's Day weekend.
*Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 240-260k albums, 260-280k SPS #1
Josh Groban (Reprise) 95-105k, 97-107k #2
*Now 54 (NOW) 70-75k, 70-75k #3
*Tech N9ne (Strange Music) 55-60k, 60-65k #4 or 5
Zac Brown Band (Southern Ground/Varvatos/BMLG/Republic) 50-55k, 60-65k #4 or 5
*My Morning Jacket (Capitol) 24-27k, 27-30k #10
Alabama Shakes (ATO) 21-24k, 24-27k
*Chris Stapleton (Mercury Nashville) 20-23k, 22-25k
Taylor Swift (Big Machine) 19-22k, 30-35k #8 or 9
Sam Smith (Capitol) 19-22k, 33-38k #7
Fifty Shades of Grey (Republic) 18-21k, 35-40k #6
*Ciara (Epic) 19-22k, 22-25k
Ed Sheeran (Atlantic) 17-20k, 30-35k #8 or 9
Reba (Nash Icon) 17-20k, 19-22k
*Now #1s (NOW) 14-17k, 14-17k
Hold on, Taylor. Only 1 more week after this without Grammy Blood's music video to help out.
Oh wait, they didn't include Furious. So that's probably T10 somewhere despite low sales. Oh, and Drake. Come on, stay in T10, Goddess!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Josh Groban
From 152K to 107K
Told ya this could be a huge album if properly handled
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Welp @ Ci missing the Top 10 too.
Tinashe teas.
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Member Since: 3/19/2011
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Not surprising, but it's a damn shame
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