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News: Time: Dear White Gays: Stop Stealing Black Female Culture
Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
You can't "steal" culture If someones interested enough in a certain culture that they actually want to embrace it, that's a totally fine thing. Now theres a difference from embracing a culture and making fun of it to make it look dumb/stupid/bad. Hehe
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That article explicitly states this though. In fine ****ing print.
You can't boast about your amazing, superior intelligence and have the reading comprehension of a third grader.
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
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Yes, the article brought up some good points, but overall she generalized black women and gay men.
The ignorance and uneducatedness in this thread is shocking tho.
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by shinjiikari
There won't ever be an end to discrimination in this country because of the way that this country was founded. Blacks and other minorities didn't really have a hand in creating the laws / rules of this country so everything is written from a white male perspective and because of that White hetero males are seen as the "invisible norm" and everything else is seen as deviant. In order for things to change everything would probably have to be redone. I mean look at the senate is it really representative of the people that inhabit this country when its mostly comprised of white males ? How can a white male feel like they can address Black issues ? Female Issues ? Everyone should be equally represented the personal is political etc
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There won't be an end to discrimination as long as contrast exists. Contrast will always exist.
Who's to say that in 3,000 years matters of race and homosexualitywon't be a big deal? I think that will happen, but surely some other group will be discriminated against similarly.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
Posts: 41,860
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Originally posted by BGKC
What I find annoying in the US is that, as a melting pot full of diversity, no one wants to share each others cultures for the beauty of it. Black culture is a significant part of American culture for example, so of course other races in the US will adopt some of the styles/mannerisms blacks have contributed onto our society. What I want to know is, when will we acknowledge one another as Americans first and foremost before we start labeling each other as "acting black" or "acting white" or whatever the case. It's gross. We should be able to embrace one another as Americans contributing ideas and trends without separating and limiting ourselves to our own race. It's just so bland.
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my favorite post in this thread so far idk how this is so difficult for some people to understand
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Gazing Ball
Gays and whites DRAGGED and getting defensive and complaining about how they can't be who they want to be.
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you are gay as well, so what
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by konaa
That article explicitly states this though. In fine ****ing print.
You can't boast about your amazing, superior intelligence and have the reading comprehension of a third grader.
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I didn't read it
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
Posts: 13,357
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Originally posted by Lil Misty
You can't "steal" culture If someones interested enough in a certain culture that they actually want to embrace it, that's a totally fine thing. Now theres a difference from embracing a culture and making fun of it to make it look dumb/stupid/bad. Hehe
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Get them together Misty
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by KESTER
I'm not sure I understand what they're saying?
Can someone explain?????????????? pls???????????
don't ignore me cus like
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Put simply, she's calling out people (it should be more than white gays tbh, I've seen straight males and female do this) who make a particular racial stereotype of black women; and worse yet, think a black woman should be flattered or impressed that they can throw lingo or stereotypes at them. I honestly think the majority of the people who have something against the article didn't read it. She didn't even say you can't like things that are stereotypically associated with black culture (for better or worse) like rap or twerking, just be yourself about it if you do. Don't do it and say "i iz a strong black woman *neck rolls* my name is friedchickenisha!" and think it's cute or acceptable. It's not asking too much
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Oh good a certain member is gone I almost thought Id have to leave because of ha ignorance
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Originally posted by BGKC
What I find annoying in the US is that, as a melting pot full of diversity, no one wants to share each others cultures for the beauty of it. Black culture is a significant part of American culture for example, so of course other races in the US will adopt some of the styles/mannerisms blacks have contributed onto our society. What I want to know is, when will we acknowledge one another as Americans first and foremost before we start labeling each other as "acting black" or "acting white" or whatever the case. It's gross. We should be able to embrace one another as Americans contributing ideas and trends without separating and limiting ourselves to our own race. It's just so bland.
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Love this post!
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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NOPE
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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oh this is so beyond stupid. some claims of appropriation are just totally ridiculous and this is one of them. you could maybe call this appropriation but how does this specific instance harm anyone?? this is a joke with absolutely no ill intent behind it, there is no way that it negatively affects anyone. but i guess policing harmless things and looking for reasons to be offended is people's new hobby. good job, you scored 30 oppression dollars. choose your next quest!
and stop with the "you have more privilege than me!!!11" bs. if we're REALLY going to compare the oppression, i guarantee you the amount of people killed for being black is much lower than the amount killed for being gay. but we shouldn't make this comparison anyway. oppression isn't a competition. people that aren't majority groups face different struggles and you shouldn't compare them. it's totally belittling to people's experiences to say that the oppression they've faced is less than yours, especially when it's not even comparable because the problems are experienced in different ways.
lord, some people are just offended by absolutely everything.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Death at people not understanding the difference between being who you want to be, and being something you are clearly not. Like, if you really want to twerk to Beyonce, that's fine. But if you're doing it to be cool, that's racist appropriation. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Miles Caulfield
Death at people not understanding the difference between being who you want to be, and being something you are clearly not. Like, if you really want to twerk to Beyonce, that's fine. But if you're doing it to be cool, that's racist appropriation. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.
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What are you even saying like
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by BGKC
What I find annoying in the US is that, as a melting pot full of diversity, no one wants to share each others cultures for the beauty of it. Black culture is a significant part of American culture for example, so of course other races in the US will adopt some of the styles/mannerisms blacks have contributed onto our society. What I want to know is, when will we acknowledge one another as Americans first and foremost before we start labeling each other as "acting black" or "acting white" or whatever the case. It's gross. We should be able to embrace one another as Americans contributing ideas and trends without separating and limiting ourselves to our own race. It's just so bland.
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What kind of FLAWLESS post!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
Put simply, she's calling out people (it should be more than white gays tbh, I've seen straight males and female do this) who make a particular racial stereotype of black women; and worse yet, think a black woman should be flattered or impressed that they can throw lingo or stereotypes at them. I honestly think the majority of the people who have something against the article didn't read it. She didn't even say you can't like things that are stereotypically associated with black culture (for better or worse) like rap or twerking, just be yourself about it if you do. Don't do it and say "i iz a strong black woman *neck rolls* my name is friedchickenisha!" and think it's cute or acceptable. It's not asking too much
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Yeah but she shouldnt really apply this to the whole "white gay" world. Thats generalization af. Even the title " Dear White Gays: Stop Stealing Black Female Culture" is extremely flamebait
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Cola.drinker
Mess: No one will ever tell me who i am. If I want to bop to Beyonce´s Partition and feel like a ratchet girl, there is nothing wrong with that.
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Now see, this is a perfect example of how black women are negatively stereotyped. You might not mean it maliciously, but WHY did you immediately go to "ratchet" (or "ghetto" as others will say)? It's literally just because Beyoncé is a black woman. It has to be that, because nothing about her is ACTUALLY "ratchet"/"ghetto," not when she could wipe her ass with my paycheck.
The fact that one of the richest women in the world is still called "ghetto" or "ratchet" just shows the negative associations/stereotypes people make without necessarily realizing it. That's what this article is trying to address: white gay men stereotyping black women. They may not mean to harm anyone, but all the guys that go on about being a "strong independent black woman" are reducing an entire diverse group of people. Think of how annoying it is when straight people reduce all gay men to sex-crazed glitter maniacs.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by maiko
I agree and most people do, but these are ideas of Utopian society. We can't stop talking about racism, not because we don't want to, but because it's still going on. Why should I stop talking about racism when I'm still experiencing it?
You live in one of the biggest most progressive cities in the United States, as do I. So I could imagine that we do not feel the same heat of racism that she feels living in Mississippi. That is something that should be considered as well.
It's still happening. As we move on in more progressive regions in the U.S. and racism becomes less apparent, there will always be places that need to catch up.
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This is a good post I just wanted to say that we do this in my city; Vancouver. Its not unobtainable if thats what you ment by untopian
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Vespertine
Now see, this is a perfect example of how black women are negatively stereotyped. You might not mean it maliciously, but WHY did you immediately go to "ratchet" (or "ghetto" as others will say)? It's literally just because Beyoncé is a black woman. It has to be that, because nothing about her is ACTUALLY "ratchet"/"ghetto," not when she could wipe her ass with my paycheck.
The fact that one of the richest women in the world is still called "ghetto" or "ratchet" just shows the negative associations/stereotypes people make without even realizing it. That's what this article is trying to address: white gay men stereotyping black women.
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People call Miley ratchet all the time and she white
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 1,868
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Originally posted by BGKC
What I find annoying in the US is that, as a melting pot full of diversity, no one wants to share each others cultures for the beauty of it. Black culture is a significant part of American culture for example, so of course other races in the US will adopt some of the styles/mannerisms blacks have contributed onto our society. What I want to know is, when will we acknowledge one another as Americans first and foremost before we start labeling each other as "acting black" or "acting white" or whatever the case. It's gross. We should be able to embrace one another as Americans contributing ideas and trends without separating and limiting ourselves to our own race. It's just so bland.
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The uproar over this ad is why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=443Vy3I0gJs
because the masses still generalize being american to being a white male / female etc.
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