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Discussion: Why do we leave tips?
Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by Robert
Just because someone ends up stuck in a dead end job they don't like doesn't mean they shouldn't do it properly. There's plenty of people who would gladly take their place especially in this economy.
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Pretty much. I know someone who worked at a restaurant for 6 years and then got let go because of "insubordination". She really needed to be because she was clearly not happy.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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I thought tipping in the US was odd before reading this thread too and wondered why the owner didn't pay them their wage like in Australia, but now that I know in most places, the cost of the food is reduced to allow for people to tip I understand.
Those who don't tip in America
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by dperkins
This kind of **** pisses me off. Like for real. I hope some waiter ****s up your order and spits in your food next time and then tells you to **** off when you leave. It's not cool at all. I hope I never serve your cheap disrespectful ass in a restaurant. To minimize the work I do to that of a CASHIER?! Smdh. You have obviously never waited tables.
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If you expect to get tipped, then you don't deserve it. No one has to tip, sure it's the polite thing to do if you get good service, but you don't have to. I mean, after all, it's not our jobs to pay your bills. We didn't hire you, it's your descion to work there. It's your job to serve people, but it isn't our job to pay you extra.
In saying that, I still agree that tipping is the thing to do, and if you get good service you should. But waiters shouldn't expect tips.
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Member Since: 6/28/2010
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I always tip good if they are a good waitor. If you are bad, well then you get what you deserve... But it's just how I was raised to properly tip someone.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by GlitterfiedCyrus
If you expect to get tipped, then you don't deserve it. No one has to tip, sure it's the polite thing to do if you get good service, but you don't have to. I mean, after all, it's not our jobs to pay your bills. We didn't hire you, it's your descion to work there. It's your job to serve people, but it isn't our job to pay you extra.
In saying that, I still agree that tipping is the thing to do, and if you get good service you should. But waiters shouldn't expect tips.
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Can I just point out that people only "choose" to be a server if it's the best or only option they have? It's not like they all have the opportunity to go find a $10 an hour job wherever. They really should expect tips, since that's basically what a lot of them live on and the reason that the restaurant pays them so low. If they couldn't expect tips, then the restaurants wouldn't even be allowed to pay them so low.
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Member Since: 1/16/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Robert
Just because someone ends up stuck in a dead end job they don't like doesn't mean they shouldn't do it properly. There's plenty of people who would gladly take their place especially in this economy.
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In your term doing it "properly" is doing the BEST? Working properly is doing ENOUGH. My point is addressing people who don't tip below minimum wage workers and expect them to do their best. There are plenty of people happy to be waiters and waitresses just as long the pay is fair.
Your excuse for people who have dead end job with no bonuses or raises potential and requires them to work more than ENOUGH just because the economy is down?
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Member Since: 1/16/2010
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Some of you should be thankful tipping exists in US restaurants it keeps the cost of many local diners and small restaurants food cheap.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by GlitterfiedCyrus
If you expect to get tipped, then you don't deserve it. No one has to tip, sure it's the polite thing to do if you get good service, but you don't have to. I mean, after all, it's not our jobs to pay your bills. We didn't hire you, it's your descion to work there. It's your job to serve people, but it isn't our job to pay you extra.
In saying that, I still agree that tipping is the thing to do, and if you get good service you should. But waiters shouldn't expect tips.
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I mean, I see your point, but when I give you good service, I feel Iike I should get a tip. It's part of going out to eat. I just think it's ridiculous to trivialize what we do as "undeserving". I have plenty of super nice people who come in and don't tip. Sure I may roll my eyes and sigh after they leave, but they still put a smile on my face, and those things are priceless. Where as rude tables who don't tip you because the kitchen messed or something is just ridiculous. The tip is how I make my money. The cooks get paid regardless. You think they care? Some places yes, but not where I work. The cooks are dicks sometimes. Lol. But I've been in their shoes and that sucks.
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Member Since: 12/10/2010
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Originally posted by KT&T
In your term doing it "properly" is doing the BEST? Working properly is doing ENOUGH. My point is addressing people who don't tip below minimum wage workers and expect them to do their best. There are plenty of people happy to be waiters and waitresses just as long the pay is fair.
Your excuse for people who have dead end job with no bonuses or raises potential and requires them to work more than ENOUGH just because the economy is down?
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People should do their BEST at any job. They should just be grateful they have a job besides most people tip anyway. Tipping is a nice thing to do and I do it most of the time at restaraunts but it is optional and shouldn't just be expected. People certaintly shouldn't be getting lower quality food for not tipping or spit/laxatives
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by Robert
People should do their BEST at any job. They should just be grateful they have a job besides most people tip anyway. Tipping is a nice thing to do and I do it most of the time at restaraunts but it is optional and shouldn't just be expected. People certaintly shouldn't be getting lower quality food for not tipping or spit/laxatives
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No but some do. Which I always find gross.
However, as long as you're nice and easy going, you're likely to rarely have bad service because you don't tip. Being respectful of other people and their job goes a long way in getting a good experience.
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Member Since: 3/27/2009
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How the **** did this get to 21 pages?
Point blank, if he/she is a crapper server don't leave a tip if they aren't then do leave one. It's really not that serious of a concept.
That said, these companies who are paying their servers less than minimum wage need to get that **** fixed. Everyone knows that a lot of people don't tip, regardless of service, so pay the workers for their work; not an "incentive" they may not see anyway.
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Member Since: 1/16/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Robert
People should do their BEST at any job. They should just be grateful they have a job besides most people tip anyway. Tipping is a nice thing to do and I do it most of the time at restaraunts but it is optional and shouldn't just be expected. People certaintly shouldn't be getting lower quality food for not tipping or spit/laxatives
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They should but not everyone is doing it. You are right they should be happy they have a job but does that always translate to working their BEST? It's always easier said than done and like any job it's stressful. I am not complete for "tipping is mandatory" per se that people should tip because it's courteous to do it. Many places you don't even have the option for it to be optional. People deserve what they get for how they send it out/pay for it.
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Member Since: 12/30/2011
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Ofcourse I tip. It has never crossed my mind not to tip. It's part of the process for me . I tip 20 to 25%. I go to the same few restraunts all the time and they know I tip well so I always get excelent service.
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Member Since: 11/26/2011
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Im not in the USA but what is the average food costs for a single meal? Actually interested in comparing to my own countries averages
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by Hooligan
How the **** did this get to 21 pages?
Point blank, if he/she is a crapper server don't leave a tip if they aren't then do leave one. It's really not that serious of a concept.
That said, these companies who are paying their servers less than minimum wage need to get that **** fixed. Everyone knows that a lot of people don't tip, regardless of service, so pay the workers for their work; not an "incentive" they may not see anyway.
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I think that most people in the states tip unless they had terrible, terrible service. I don't think most people go to a restaurant, especially a NICE restaurant, without understanding that they're going to have to leave some kind of a tip. I don't think I've ever met anyone who doesn't share this expectation.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by Muggwa
You need to tip people who service you.
It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the practice; that's how they make their money and doing anything is trashy.
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The truth, you said it!
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by dperkins
But policemen and teachers who go out of their way and go the extra mile can get raises or bonuses. As servers, we don't get that. So for us to go the extra mile for tables who don't tip us doesn't make sense. Why would we waste or efforts? Id rather go the extra mile for the table I know it going to tip well. It's not even just doing something ****** to the cheap tables. It's taking extra care of that really good table because they are essentially responsible for "giving me a raise" that day. So they may get that extra sauce to go, they may get that refill extra fast and on the spot, they may get a Togo drink without even asking for it, they may get those extra couple of fries or that burger that was made perfect. I don't have to do anything bad to tables who don't tip. It's their loss if they don't want to tip. Because I make sure the ones who do get that extra something to make their night better. For those other tables, I just "do my job". Simple as that.
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Enlighten me how that works because I haven't seen a raise in years and I am always at my job past the end time. Thankfully I do it out of my own goodwill. I'm just saying the tipping is usually a problem for many because other professions don't get rewarded for going above and beyond. And IF there's a raise, it's across the board with no distinguishing between the hardworkers and the slackers.
Also, there are many part-time jobs that do as much work as waiting tables and there's no raise or tips. I understand that waiters earn less than minimum wage, true - the system needs to be fixed to where it is a minimum wage job, although I've never known a server who went home with that actual pay - some earn more than I do per day in tips!
As for me, I tip but I HATE entitled waiters who demand that a tip is forthcoming, even when bad service occurs. Sorry if you're having a bad day, but that really isn't anyone's fault. Do you think people in my profession, or OTHERS will say "oh poor xxx is just having a bad day, give them a bonus." Right. In my profession, if I had a bad day and gave the kids rude service (snapping at them, being rude), I would get in so much trouble. It's just the reality of the working world. I have left 0 dollars for rude punks before. Tips are EARNED.
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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The one thing i don't like about America
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Member Since: 8/2/2012
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I just read through all 21 pages (I don't have a life apparently)
1. People can't tell when I make a joke lol
2. Bottom line if you are or have ever been a server in your life, you know how important tips are
3. If you don't tip that's fine I guess, just don't expect as good of service if you go to that place again
4. If the person is a horrible server then you have every right not to tip and I hope you won't
and 5. You all are so damn angry haha
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