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Discussion: Rate Your Hate (Now: Kanye West)
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In all seriousness, I'd place my hate at about a 5.
I have a high tolerance for her music. I love most of it. As far as I'm concerned, TFM is a masterpiece.
My issues with Gaga stem almost entirely from her pseudo-intellectual persona; that side of her that can't resist the urge to spew nonsense and keep us thinking make us shake our heads out of embarrassment for her.
"See these irritated mosquito bites on my forehead and shoulders? Yeah, I should probably get them checked out, but I won't because they aren't infected mosquito bites. These are my bones, these are dog bones that have always been a part of my body. They make me human. They make me canine. Is there a difference? Dogs are man's best friend, therefore dogs are human. I am the best friend of every gay man on the planet, therefore I am gay. I was born this way, baby! I am part dog... pretty sure I'm a ****ing Yorkie, part human, part gay, part monster. I am everything and everything is me. I was born out of the cosmos to become a mother monster for all lost and hurt monster children. Listen to your mother, monsters! Pay no attention to the bullies, the homophobes, and the homophones... we shouldn't pay attention to those either. I am your bully now! I am racism and homophobia and I commit suicide, and we are dead, but you shouldn't commit suicide because you are part of me and if we all die then too much of me will be dead. My legacy lives through you. You have been impregnated by Gaga's seed, and you will spread to all corners of the earth and share out message of sex, love, control, vanity, love of zombie boys, heart activating, falling mirrors, gay pride, gehy pride, dog bone skeletons, bad romances, and gay pride. Cherry cherry boom boom, RedOne. But whatever you do, you must never enter conversion therapy to rid yourself of homosexuality and you must never speak of "Just Dance". It's far too low-brow."
Direct quote.
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She hypes herself up way too much.
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Between 0-2. It honestly depends on the day.
I don't agree with or like everything she says or does.
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I can't count rates like "between X or X"
Please give one rate
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Way too much hate
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Originally posted by AshleeSimpsonFan
I can't count rates like "between X or X"
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Alright.
I'll rate her a 1, then. :P
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10. Why:
a) SHE called herself one of the most talented and vocally gifted performers, while she is clearly not.
b) She called her own album "album of the decade".
c) She called her own single the anthem of the generation.
d) She said "retarded" (while preaching equality etc.) and called herself "****ing smart".
e) She is vain, cocky and arrogant.
f) BTW & Judas are extremely disappointing.
g) Many of her ignorant, annoying stans.
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Originally posted by AyuM
10. Why:
a) SHE called herself one of the most talented and vocally gifted performers, while she is clearly not.
b) She called her own album "album of the decade".
c) She called her own single the anthem of the generation.
d) She said "retarded" (while preaching equality etc.) and called herself "****ing smart".
e) She is vain, cocky and arrogant.
f) BTW & Judas are extremely disappointing.
g) Many of her ignorant, annoying stans.
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This!! and also 10.)
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5. If she stuck with The fame sound it would have been 0.
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What AyuM said was spot on. I liked all her singles from The Fame except "LoveGame" but she is ridiculously egotistical.
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Quote:
Originally posted by AyuM
10. Why:
a) SHE called herself one of the most talented and vocally gifted performers, while she is clearly not.
b) She called her own album "album of the decade".
c) She called her own single the anthem of the generation.
d) She said "retarded" (while preaching equality etc.) and called herself "****ing smart".
e) She is vain, cocky and arrogant.
f) BTW & Judas are extremely disappointing.
g) Many of her ignorant, annoying stans.
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a) How is she clearly not? I believe she was talking about the current industry in that quote - she definitely more than surpasses Ke$ha, Britney, Katy, Rihanna, etc. in terms of vocal ability. Of course there are many above her, but she should be considered one of the more talented vocalists right now.
b) She said that in the comfort of her own concert infront of her own fans. She said she wanted to make the album of the decade for us.
c) She strives to make a universal-anthem, I can see why'd you'd you find that annoying - but to hate her for something like that is beyond stupid.
d) Human beings make mistakes, did she not publically apologize for it? She most definitely did not mean any harm, it was just a slip-up anybody could make. It was not in a form of hatred.
e & f are strictly your opinion.
g) Every stanbase has ignorant people. They will inevitably pop up when you gain a huge following. Stupid point.
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0. Can't help it. I adore her endlessly.
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Originally posted by astronaut.
a) How is she clearly not? I believe she was talking about the current industry in that quote - she definitely more than surpasses Ke$ha, Britney, Katy, Rihanna, etc. in terms of vocal ability. Of course there are many above her, but she should be considered one of the more talented vocalists right now.
b) She said that in the comfort of her own concert infront of her own fans. She said she wanted to make the album of the decade for us.
c) She strives to make a universal-anthem, I can see why'd you'd you find that annoying - but to hate her for something like that is beyond stupid.
d) Human beings make mistakes, did she not publically apologize for it? She most definitely did not mean any harm, it was just a slip-up anybody could make. It was not in a form of hatred.
e & f are strictly your opinion.
g) Every stanbase has ignorant people. They will inevitably pop up when you gain a huge following. Stupid point.
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Did you really have to reply?
a) Artists with actually legendary voices like Barbra Streisand, Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin HAVE NEVER praised their own vocals/talent especially in such an absolute way. Gaga's remark made her look incredibly cocky.
*also she dissed the talent of everyone else who is current in the industry, while that matter is completely subjective and it's not up to Gaga to decide whether Kesha is talented or not.
b) That's an excuse. She said "I'll give you the album of the decade" and that shows how arrogant she is. She clearly thinks her work is superior to anyone else's.
c) No serious artist praises his own song as the anthem of a generation. It's very cocky. Let the public DECIDE whether a song is an anthem or not. I never saw Michael Jackson call his own mega-hits anthems. He had a thing called respect for other artists than himself and he was humble.
d) So can I call you a f** then? Oops sorry, I'm human it was a mistake sis.
a&f) you got that one right, and I'm glad I share that opinion with so many people.
g) Then why are Gaga stans the only ones with the reputation of being cocky? #justsaying
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Say what you will but right now she's consistently releasing the best pop songs on the radio. And anyone who acts like she can't sing needs to watch the acapella version of Born This Way from her HBO special.
And the stuff she's doing now is so much better than the generic pop **** she did on The Fame.
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Originally posted by AyuM
Did you really have to reply?
a) Artists with actually legendary voices like Barbra Streisand, Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin HAVE NEVER praised their own vocals/talent especially in such an absolute way. Gaga's remark made her look incredibly cocky.
*also she dissed the talent of everyone else who is current in the industry, while that matter is completely subjective and it's not up to Gaga to decide whether Kesha is talented or not.
b) That's an excuse. She said "I'll give you the album of the decade" and that shows how arrogant she is. She clearly thinks her work is superior to anyone else's.
c) No serious artist praises his own song as the anthem of a generation. It's very cocky. Let the public DECIDE whether a song is an anthem or not. I never saw Michael Jackson call his own mega-hits anthems. He had a thing called respect for other artists than himself and he was humble.
d) So can I call you a f** then? Oops sorry, I'm human it was a mistake sis.
a&f) you got that one right, and I'm glad I share that opinion with so many people.
g) Then why are Gaga stans the only ones with the reputation of being cocky? #justsaying
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Yes, did you?
a) I don't care what those past divas have done & nor do I think that statement makes her cocky. When you do in fact have a superior voice compared to your contemporaries, there is nothing wrong with acknowledging it, she didn't degrade anybody else.
How did she diss anybody's talent? She IS vocally superior to Ke$ha, that doesn't mean they're not talented.
b) Uhm, what? She said that to her fans. It could be considered something in the heat of the moment of the concert. She just wants to make us happy, I know that's incredibly cheesy but that was obviously her intentions. Again, that wasn't some attempt to downplay another artists' work. Lame conspiracy theories.
c) Who are you to say what an artist does and does not? If she has a goal to do what she wants & tell people about it, then more power to her (especially when it doesn't harm anyone). I do though can see how one could find that annoying, but I think it's crazy to give someone a 10 for hate based on that alone.
d) That is a totally different comparison. She wasn't calling anybody a 'retard', she was discussing the constant annoyance of her comparisons to Madonna. If she called somebody 'retarded' or a 'retard', that would've been a different story.
Okay, & I'm glad even more people disagree with you.
g) From who? Exhale is a disgusting forum considered by almost every stanbases I've ran into. What a horrible argument you have there, is there a statistic for what you're saying?
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Originally posted by astronaut.
Yes, did you?
a) I don't care what those past divas have done & nor do I think that statement makes her cocky. When you do in fact have a superior voice compared to your contemporaries, there is nothing wrong with acknowledging it, she didn't degrade anybody else.
How did she diss anybody's talent? She IS vocally superior to Ke$ha, that doesn't mean they're not talented.
b) Uhm, what? She said that to her fans. It could be considered something in the heat of the moment of the concert. She just wants to make us happy, I know that's incredibly cheesy but that was obviously her intentions. Again, that wasn't some attempt to downplay another artists' work. Lame conspiracy theories.
c) Who are you to say what an artist does and does not? If she has a goal to do what she wants & tell people about it, then more power to her (especially when it doesn't harm anyone). I do though can see how one could find that annoying, but I think it's crazy to give someone a 10 for hate based on that alone.
d) That is a totally different comparison. She wasn't calling anybody a 'retard', she was discussing the constant annoyance of her comparisons to Madonna. If she called somebody 'retarded' or a 'retard', that would've been a different story.
Okay, & I'm glad even more people disagree with you.
g) From who? Exhale is a disgusting forum considered by almost every stanbases I've ran into. What a horrible argument you have there, is there a statistic for what you're saying?
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a) It's interesting that you fail to understand the arrogance of the statement.
b) It's hilarious that you fail to understand the arrogance of the statement.
c) It's quite alarming that you fail to understand the arrogance of the statement.
d) Okay then. I shall use the word retarded and f** etc. from now on during "constant annoyances".
e&f) ORLY? Wake up & smell the coffee.
g) When did I mention Exhale? Wow. Totally irrelevant. Intriguing.
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