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Movie: Scream 4 Discussion: Unseen scenes
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Has anyone found an english download of the film (even if its a recorded one)? I'm not going watching it till later tonight but im guessing i'll wanna watch it again afterwards
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There prob won't be an English i'm guessing until after Sunday. I think i'm going to go see it today again.
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Has anyone found an english download of the film (even if its a recorded one)? I'm not going watching it till later tonight but im guessing i'll wanna watch it again afterwards
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Theres only a russian one I downloaded (hoping there would be subtitles) and there isn't. I guess there will be some English ones up in a few days. I can't wait to watch it again.
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I just read about the ORIGINAL opening and CH! I wonder why they changed it? You can definitely see pieces of it in the trailers. Now I really can't wait until this **** comes out on Bluray.
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OMGGGGGGGGGGG I JUST GOT BACK FROM WATCHING IT! I'm too tired right now but I'll spill in the morning
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OMGGGGGGGGGGG I JUST GOT BACK FROM WATCHING IT! I'm too tired right now but I'll spill in the morning
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Just came back from the cinemas, after watching it 2nd night in a row..
Lmao.
When you watch it for the 2nd time, you see things for another point.
Like, in a lo of occasions, and where deaths happened, Jill disappeared. And when she was talking with Sidney in the kitchen, she asked her how could she handle all the press and media, and that she could never do it.
And after watching again, im pretty sure Kirby is still alive. I mean, she was stabbed twice, ok. But when Charlie left, she was still moving and obviously NOT dead. She was just lying on the floor.
So thats a great way of bringing her back, for a possible 5th and 6th film. I think she could pull of being the new protagonist.
I CAN GET OVER HOW EPIC AND BRILLIANT THE ENDING WAS. Especially with Jill hurting her self.
Big congrats to Emma Roberts. I NEVER would have thought she could pull of such role. She always plays the innocent and cute role. Definitely caught me by surprise there.
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Damn! Just watched it! That was AMAZING!!!!!
When the killer pulled off the mask, and it was Jill, I FREAKED! I had NO IDEA! I at first thought Trevor, but then though that'd be too easy. Then I thought of Gale because of her not being able to write a story, but I dismissed her when she got mad at Dewey for not letting her join in the case. Then I thought of Dewey for a split second for the same reason, but then decided that was stupid. Dewey would never be the killer. Then I immediately thought of the blonde deputy, and kept thinking it was her pretty much up until Jill was revealed as the killer. As for the second killer, I at first thought Kirby, but decided that they wouldn't make the bitchy snotty girl the killer. Then, for a little bit, I thought maybe it was Sydney. Not because of the evidence in her car, but for the fact the tagline was "New Decade. New Rules." But then, I decided no because the killer called Sydney while she was alone, and there would be no reason for that. Then I thought of the nerd with the camera, and then finally his friend when he started screaming for Kirby to open up the door. I eventually got one of them right, but not once did I think of Jill. (Nor her mother for some strange reason.) And when Jill's mother died, I admit I almost cried.
I have to say, too, I was skeptical of Emma and Hayden being in this movie, but they acted their parts SO WELL!
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Originally posted by tcatron565
Damn! Just watched it! That was AMAZING!!!!!
When the killer pulled off the mask, and it was Jill, I FREAKED! I had NO IDEA! I at first thought Trevor, but then though that'd be too easy. Then I thought of Gale because of her not being able to write a story, but I dismissed her when she got mad at Dewey for not letting her join in the case. Then I thought of Dewey for a split second for the same reason, but then decided that was stupid. Dewey would never be the killer. Then I immediately thought of the blonde deputy, and kept thinking it was her pretty much up until Jill was revealed as the killer. As for the second killer, I at first thought Kirby, but decided that they wouldn't make the bitchy snotty girl the killer. Then, for a little bit, I thought maybe it was Sydney. Not because of the evidence in her car, but for the fact the tagline was "New Decade. New Rules." But then, I decided no because the killer called Sydney while she was alone, and there would be no reason for that. Then I thought of the nerd with the camera, and then finally his friend when he started screaming for Kirby to open up the door. I eventually got one of them right, but not once did I think of Jill. (Nor her mother for some strange reason.) And when Jill's mother died, I admit I almost cried.
I have to say, too, I was skeptical of Emma and Hayden being in this movie, but they acted their parts SO WELL!
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SO many twists in this movie ITS INSANE.
I seriously suspected ALL the characters through out the movie.
I ever suspected the 2 police men guarding Sidney at one point.
Kristen Bell killing Anna Paquin was also a big shocker for me. I thought they would both be killed. EPIC.
I think another reference to previous Screams was Jill being cut on her hand by the other killer. Similar to the Scream 2, where Sidney's boyfriend was attacked by the killer and he only cut his hand. And Dewey and Randy suspected him, since it was too "convenient" that the cut wasnt deep or sth.
And this time Jill was indeed the killer.
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Just came back from the cinemas, after watching it 2nd night in a row..
Lmao.
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I saw it for a second time as well, and I recommend others do so. There's so much that you don't notice that foreshadows the rest of the movie if you pay close attention. I was really impressed by all the detail the writers and Wes made.
In the school scene, Kirby says Charlie likes her, and Jill points out that she could do a lot worse then him.
When Trevor sneaks into Jill's room and says to Sidney "you look a lot smaller in person" Jill gives the most annoyed, bitchiest face, obviously foreshadow her dislike of Sidney getting all the attention.
The first scene with the cops in the car, Adam Brody asks for a 4 letter word for courage while doing a crossword puzzle. Anthony Anderson answers with "guts." 5 minutes later, Olivia is stabbed to death, her guts hanging out everywhere.
I know there's more, but I'm forgetting at the moment.
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I also saw it a second time enjoyed it just as much as i did the first.
Man that scene with Kirby, Charlie and Sidney is by far my favorite scene in the film. Hayden was so awesome in that scene gave me chills all over again.
Also when i first saw the film i wondered how did Jenny and Marnie tie into all of this but then i noticed when Jenny got the call she asked if it was Trevor and then i said Oh now i get it Jenny was the girl Trevor was cheating with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do hate that some stuff was cut out. I was reading that there was a moment in the script where Kirby and Sidney were talking and she told Sidney how cool it was that she lived in Stu's house and that people would come to see it but it got old after Stab 3. When i read that i said a ha it made sense how Sidney knew where Kirby lived and then i thought how cool that they sort of recreated the original finale for the new movie.
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Not gonna spoil, but I did NOT see the ending coming at all...
I also loved the beginning bit with the movie within a movie thing...although they tend to do it a lot in the other screams, this one was especially great
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OK, my thoughts - if you dont want it spoiled dont read, or you should have already watched it
The character development was weak, but I don't think they could have changed that because of the huge cast, but the only character i felt REALLY sorry for was when Kirby died (As much as I want her to have survived, I dont think she did because when Jill was naming off all the victims near the end, Dewey didn't correct her until she got to Sidney, he didn't tell her she was still alive or anything. She probably bled to death). Olivia's death made me feel sorry for her, not because of the character, but because of how brutal and painful the death looked (goriest/most brutal kill of the franchise possibly?). However, I didn't really feel sorry for Kate, the police men or Rebecca when they died.
Another thing I would have changed would be Rebecca's scene in the car park (it wasn't suspenseful enough IMO - and why did she get out of the car instead of phoning someone? They should have had her just drop her phone on the way running to the car, and they could have shown her seeing her tires were slashed or something). The opening scene was great and clever, but the real kills were over pretty quickly - you can tell how much they cut out because you don't even see the first girl get attacked, you just hear her, and in the trailers and pics you can see the first girl getting chased and stabbed, theres a shot of her on the floor covered in blood, looking up at the killer (who's also covered in blood) and saying 'you're not real'. Also, how the hell did Olivia not hear the killer talking on the phone in her closet? That thought just came to me.
But anyways, enough with the bad stuff, I thought it was an amazing film. Jill's self-mutilation scene was shocking but so great, she really played that part well. It was probably Hayden's best performance as well, she's never been the greatest actress but she was brilliant in this role.
I also loved all the death remakes; the opening kill getting crushed under the garage door, which is how Tatum's character was originally supposed to die. Jill getting her arm cut like Derek in S2, Hayden's questioning scene, Gale getting attacked in the barn in front of a distracted crowd watching Stab just like Jada Pinkett in S2, Rebecca getting thrown from that building just like Sarah Michelle Geller in S2, it was all so well written and directed and I think it's a shame most of it will go unnoticed because of how much comedy is in it.
For me, it now goes;
2>4>1>>>3
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ORIGINAL OPENING BEFORE RESHOOTS:
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The MPAA didn’t order any cuts to Scream 4, but a major amount of material was removed by Team Scream themselves. In the first of a multi-part series of articles, Scream-Trilogy tells you – and shows you – what was left on the cutting room floor. We start with the opening scene.
After two fake-out Stab scenes which were left untouched, the Woodsboro opener with Jenny (Aimee Teegarden) and Marnie (Brittany Robinson) begins. However the sequence was almost completely reshot and would reverse each girls’ role of centerpiece or supplementary victim. All that that remains of the original scene is the discussion on the couch about the Stab sequels at which point the released film diverges into the new footage (starting with hearing a noise upstairs). What follows is how it originally played out:
Marnie gets up from the couch and heads to the kitchen, voicing her hate of horror movies. She opens the cupboard (possibly to get some Stab Popcorn) and shuts it, surprised to see none other than Ghostface standing behind an oblivious Jenny. Marnie assumes it’s a prank and goes back to getting food ready, so Ghostface starts stabbing Jenny in the back from behind the couch. Ouch! Jenny is screaming bloody murder, Marnie just rolling her eyes, telling them it’s not funny. Once she starts seeing all the blood on the couch while the stabbing keeps on going, she approaches, sees Jenny is really dead and screams – causing Ghostface to snap his attention to her.
She runs for the door, phone in hand to call emergency but Ghostface cuts her off in the hallway, pulling her away. He stabs her and once she’s down on the floor he moves into place for the kill. Marnie’s final line is: “But you’re not real…” Cue Scream 4 title card.
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In the final film, Sheriff Dewey is notified about the deaths by Deputy Perkins over radio. The following aftermath scene was removed due to the reshoots – it was either rendered contradictory, or simply a running time casualty because the new opening scene was longer. “It’s bad. Real bad.” But how bad? A blood-scrawled message on Jenny’s living room wall rhetorically asked “What’s Your Favorite Scary Movie?”, Marnie’s body has been hung from the ceiling fan and Jenny’s corpse is bound to a chair, duplications of Casey & Steve from the opening scene of the very first Scream (1996)
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Note: you can see Jenny’s bloody foot in the bottom left hand corner of the image above.
Cutting this aftermath scene deprived us of the most important part of each Scream: Wes Craven’s cameo! After playing a janitor, doctor and tourist respectively in the previous movies, the director appeared as coroner here, one of the fan suggestions he asked for
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Originally posted by PopBoi
OK, my thoughts - if you dont want it spoiled dont read, or you should have already watched it
The character development was weak, but I don't think they could have changed that because of the huge cast, but the only character i felt REALLY sorry for was when Kirby died (As much as I want her to have survived, I dont think she did because when Jill was naming off all the victims near the end, Dewey didn't correct her until she got to Sidney, he didn't tell her she was still alive or anything. She probably bled to death). Olivia's death made me feel sorry for her, not because of the character, but because of how brutal and painful the death looked (goriest/most brutal kill of the franchise possibly?). However, I didn't really feel sorry for Kate, the police men or Rebecca when they died.
Another thing I would have changed would be Rebecca's scene in the car park (it wasn't suspenseful enough IMO - and why did she get out of the car instead of phoning someone? They should have had her just drop her phone on the way running to the car, and they could have shown her seeing her tires were slashed or something). The opening scene was great and clever, but the real kills were over pretty quickly - you can tell how much they cut out because you don't even see the first girl get attacked, you just hear her, and in the trailers and pics you can see the first girl getting chased and stabbed, theres a shot of her on the floor covered in blood, looking up at the killer (who's also covered in blood) and saying 'you're not real'. Also, how the hell did Olivia not hear the killer talking on the phone in her closet? That thought just came to me.
But anyways, enough with the bad stuff, I thought it was an amazing film. Jill's self-mutilation scene was shocking but so great, she really played that part well. It was probably Hayden's best performance as well, she's never been the greatest actress but she was brilliant in this role.
I also loved all the death remakes; the opening kill getting crushed under the garage door, which is how Tatum's character was originally supposed to die. Jill getting her arm cut like Derek in S2, Hayden's questioning scene, Gale getting attacked in the barn in front of a distracted crowd watching Stab just like Jada Pinkett in S2, Rebecca getting thrown from that building just like Sarah Michelle Geller in S2, it was all so well written and directed and I think it's a shame most of it will go unnoticed because of how much comedy is in it.
For me, it now goes;
2>4>1>>>3
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For me it's, 1>4>2>3.
I loved all the homage to the previous Scream's.
There is an English CAM out but apparently the quality is ****, If it's good I'll link you.
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For me it's, 1>4>2>3.
I loved all the homage to the previous Scream's.
There is an English CAM out but apparently the quality is ****, If it's good I'll link you.
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Link me also. I need to see this again.
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