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Celeb News: Monsters offered counselling at BTW ball(NA dates)
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Originally posted by wanderlust
LOL that would be HUGE compliment because I always thought my english was horrible, and thinking I own that site means you must have the impression I'm very articulate and intelligent. so thank you!
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For someone who supposedly doesn't know English very well, your grammar is impeccable. ten bucks says you start making grammatical mistakes on purpose to cover your ass.
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Originally posted by B2R4D
"Tonight, I want you to forget about all of your securities. I want you to reject anyone or anything that have made you feel like you don’t belong, or don’t fit in. Or made you feel like you’re not good enough, or pretty enough, or thin enough, or can’t sing well enough, or dance well enough. You just remember that you’re a god damn superstar, and you were born this way!"
- Lady Gaga
And there you have it. The WORDS of the legend herself. Her show is intended to be an escape from any kind of issue or prejudice her fans may experience in their daily lives. As I said, I support her will to ensure the wellbeing of her supporters and I think her foundation is great - but her live show is supposed to be a good time. It's a place to forget about all the negativities just for one night and let it all go. You do have a point, that it's a choice. BUT, the whole idea does not seem genuine to me. It doesn't look good on her, and it's making people question her motives. Helping people is a great thing, but when it becomes over-the-top, that's when it irks me. And why is it fair that only the North American venues only have access to this treatment also? I mean, all her fans deserve equal access to such services.
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Nowhere does she mention mental health in that speech, so your argument just flew right out the window. The only people who question her motives are the people who don't like her. Forbes, Harvard University, GLAAD, the Trevor Project, and various other esteemed organizations and companies continue to praise her. if helping people = over the top to you, then once again you're the one with the problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVER THE TOP WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP.
Because the BTWF is an American foundation and has been since the beginning. It's not a very big organization, so they don't have the power to reach across the globe. That is why she was doing work with UNICEF on behalf of the BTWF.
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Is she saying that her fans need professional support?
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Originally posted by .aR
Is she saying that her fans need professional support?
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Yes, just like bey is endorsing poisonous, chemical-filled soda.
No. She's saying those who need it can get help. Omg, our education system really is failing our youth.
I'm done here. Some of you are a lost cause and I feel like I'm going to slip into a depression because of the sheer amount of projecting going on in this thread. I sincerely hope you guys aren't this negative and pessimistic about things in the real world, unless you frequent Red Cross buildings and picket them for being contrived and implying everyone in the world is poor and needs help.
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Originally posted by jeremyyy
Nowhere does she mention mental health in that speech, so your argument just flew right out the window. The only people who question her motives are the people who don't like her. Forbes, Harvard University, GLAAD, the Trevor Project, and various other esteemed organizations and companies continue to praise her. if helping people = over the top to you, then once again you're the one with the problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVER THE TOP WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP.
Because the BTWF is an American foundation and has been since the beginning. It's not a very big organization, so they don't have the power to reach across the globe. That is why she was doing work with UNICEF on behalf of the BTWF.
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Someone who is having serious mental health issues - shouldn't be focussing on those during the night, or shouldn't be going in the first place. No one is going to be depressed, when they are watching someone who actually wishes to liberate them from their insecurities when they perform. Her fans should be, beyond ecstatic to see her. Focusing on mental health then, defeats the purpose of the live show, when you're supposed to be having the best damn night of your life instead, where you don't have to deal with such issues. That's the point I was trying to make. I'm not going to argue anymore. I hope those organisations continue to praise her, because what she does is good. I just don't think she is doing it the appropriate way, and it comes across a little forced to me. BUT, whatever makes her fans happy I guess. Best of luck to her with this service. I hope the fans get something positive from it.
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Originally posted by jeremyyy
For someone who supposedly doesn't know English very well, your grammar is impeccable. ten bucks says you start making grammatical mistakes on purpose to cover your ass.
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DAMN!!! thanks again, you think i'm a ****ing genius.
jeremy, I honestly IDGAF about what you think of me or who you think I am, but you're wrong about this one. idk maybe there's a way to check the IP. I'm from europe and I think he's from south america cuz he went to see some M shows there & posted scans of those newspapers. I could write to you in dutch now to proof that I'm from europe
there's more madonna fans than just pawsdown and myself. i think you're being a bit paranoid about this.
and yeah i read his blog, like many people do.
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anyway im not even hating on gaga because her motives (or that of her management, who the **** knows) at least sounds nice, but she's shooting herself in the foot with this and it's not giving both her & her fans a very good look. it's starting to look very cultish. maybe a help line (FREE of charge), not marketed as just for her fans, but for everyone (maybe she can team up with some suicide hotlines or whatever), would be more beneficial
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Some of y'alls faves should go
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Originally posted by jeremyyy
Hun, we all know you run
Pawsdownlittlemonsters.tumblr.com
Twitter.com/putyourpawsdown
You gave yourself away by posting your opinions on here and then immediately copying and pasting those same opinions on your blog.
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DRAG HIM LIKE A QUEEN!
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Yes, just like bey is endorsing poisonous, chemical-filled soda.
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Name one drink or food item which isn't filled with chemicals.
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Name one drink or food item which isn't filled with chemicals.
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And this is how you completely miss a point.
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The M stans in this thread
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omg at these last two pages just being jeremyy dragging over and over
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Originally posted by lipstick lesbian
"food and games" will do anything but appease any mental disorder. CBT is almost always needed to change thought patterns and replace negative, malignant, hot thoughts with positive, balanced thoughts. "food and games" will not allow the person with the disorder to reexamine his or her core beliefs--therapy with a licensed psychiatrist will
i am currently undergoing CBT for body dysmorphic disorder.
i at this thread.
mental disorders can not be cured by jumping on a colourful, flamboyant bus loaded with cupcakes and clarinets. this "counseling" is temporary and, ultimately, futile: i STRONGLY recommend anybody who wishes to melt the ice that has been glassing their heart for years to seek help in a CLINIC.
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Hell no! Not THE clarinet!!!
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Ok, Honestly this freaks me out Is she charging extra for this too?
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Good lord, how are you guys managing to one up the ignorance earlier in this thread?
There is nothing embarrassing or wrong or freaky about needing psychological help. I promise one of your friends or family members has or will need it at some point.
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free food & music? sign me up
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Originally posted by wanderlust
anyway im not even hating on gaga because her motives (or that of her management, who the **** knows) at least sounds nice, but she's shooting herself in the foot with this and it's not giving both her & her fans a very good look. it's starting to look very cultish. maybe a help line (FREE of charge), not marketed as just for her fans, but for everyone (maybe she can team up with some suicide hotlines or whatever), would be more beneficial
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I'm sorry, how are professional and certified psychiatrists from a charity based out of Harvard University "cultish?" You tried.
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Originally posted by B2R4D
This act is highly offensive towards her community of somewhat naïve followers.
Like, is she really implying that her supporters are psychologically unstable? That could be the case for some fans, but like the Little Monsters say - it's very unfair to "generalise" a whole fan base based on the behaviour of a select few, yet that is exactly what Gaga seems to be doing. I totally endorse her trying to ensure their happiness and wellbeing, but this is a step too far. It's disgusting and contrived. Aren't her shows intended to be a place where people are to forget their insecurities? It sounds highly contradictory of what the concert stands for. I know this, because I've seen her live. That is my opinion.
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I didn't realize forgetting about your insecurities at a two hour concert was better for you than speaking to a licensed mental health professional. I'm assuming you learned this while pursuing a doctorate in psychology?
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