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Discussion: What's your stance on...? #46: Organ Donation
Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Originally posted by Pinter
maybe.
but maybe not.
i mean its not like theres a guarantee that straight guys can do it better thou.
the main thing is commitment.
also, love grows by the time goes.  |
Not to bring anything up that could seem offensive but aren't you from the Middle East? Family virtues and things of that nature are different there and I can see why you would want to please your family.
All I can say is, if you're not happy with that, don't do it. If you are truly ready to go through with marriage to a girl despite being gay, then more power to you.
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
It's your life, your choice, do as you please.
When it comes to gay couples adopting though, you're bringing another life into the equation, so I'm mixed on that. *expects crucification*
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Once again I agree with you Nicole. 
I don't see anything wrong with people of the same sex getting married, it doesn't bother me at all. I think that the gay rights movement is gathering momentum, and once the changes that they are fighting for are put in place then people will ultimately regard marriage as a union between two people, regardless of whether they are the same sex or not. Eventually everyone is going to have equal rights, the recent setbacks cannot prevent what is inevitable.
Gay adoption is not something I would oppose, but I'm not sure how I feel about it either. The child in question would be growing up in an environment that differs from the "norm", but that's not necessarily an issue. As long as they are loved then that is the main thing.
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My Christian values say no, gays should not marry, and my Christian values should dictate everything because I have all this unfounded "evidence" that America was founded with Christian ideals in mind. We were a Christian nation then and we should be a Christian nation now. Allowing gays to marry is one huge step down the slippery slope that will end Christianity entirely. Plus, them gays can't even reproduce! In our population starved world, I can't sit back and watch two dudes with dicks **** each other in the ass and waste precious semen that would otherwise be a human life. If you ain't allowing God to create babies in his image, then you is worthless and you is killing society. The only reason to get married is to produce precious children, so if you're a homo or an unfirtile couple you best be taking your marriage requests to that land of sin they call Sweden. Nothing good has ever come out of Sweden. Abba are one of the major causes of the gay epidemic. 
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Member Since: 1/14/2007
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Originally posted by Patrick
My Christian values say no, gays should not marry, and my Christian values should dictate everything because I have all this unfounded "evidence" that America was founded with Christian ideals in mind. We were a Christian nation then and we should be a Christian nation now. Allowing gays to marry is one huge step down the slippery slope that will end Christianity entirely. Plus, them gays can't even reproduce! In our population starved world, I can't sit back and watch two dudes with dicks **** each other in the ass and waste precious semen that would otherwise be a human life. If you ain't allowing God to create babies in his image, then you is worthless and you is killing society. The only reason to get married is to produce precious children, so if you're a homo or an unfirtile couple you best be taking your marriage requests to that land of sin they call Sweden. Nothing good has ever come out of Sweden. Abba are one of the major causes of the gay epidemic. |
While that was a joke, that really is what some people really think for some unknown reason. Our lives are unaffected by who others choose to marry so just let it happen. There really isn't a good reason to not allow it.
In most arguments, there are two sides trying to make a point. You may disagree with the point but there usually is a point with some reasoning behind it. There is no reasoning behind not allowing something that effects no one. We have "separation of church and state" here in the USA so religious arguments do not count so I challenge anyone to argue against gay marriage.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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May I suggest for the next topic you go for something about war/peace/remembrance as in Britain the 11th of November is Remembrance Day, it's the day we remember those lost to war, mainly WWI and WWII, it's topical.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Previous Topics
#1 - Abortion
#2 - Same-Sec Marriage (Gay Marriage) #3
Gun Control
Domestic Violence?
Crime?
Self-Defense?
Civic Duty?
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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There... this topic should not be as insane. lol
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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I feel that people should only be allowed to have guns based on their history in crime and other areas... guns should be allowed to given to others based only on a circumstantial basis.
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Member Since: 8/2/2010
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I'm not for gun control for a few primary reasons:
1) People kill people, so if guns are banned, other methods will likely be used
2) If guns are outlawed, the blackmarket presumably still remains- so if criminals/those with ill intent still want to get guns, they will get them regardless
3) Guns should always be available to civilian populations to prevent potential government abuses. I wouldn't want only the government having firearm possession
Pretty typical reasons. Now as for what various types of firearms should be controlled, that's another issue. I do think some types of firearms/weapons shouldn't be sold to civilian populations.
And psychlogical/background checks should be very extensive/comprehensive.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Jewfro
I'm not for gun control for a few primary reasons:
1) People kill people, so if guns are banned, other methods will likely be used
2) If guns are outlawed, the blackmarket presumably still remains- so if criminals/those with ill intent still want to get guns, they will get them regardless
3) Guns should always be available to civilian populations to prevent potential government abuses. I wouldn't want only the government having firearm possession
Pretty typical reasons. Now as for what various types of firearms should be controlled, that's another issue. I do think some types of firearms/weapons shouldn't be sold to civilian populations.
And psychlogical/background checks should be very extensive/comprehensive.
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1) yes other methods will be used but it won't be as easy to kill someone and murder rates will likely decrease
2) true... however it would still decrease the amount of people who have guns.... because if it is illegal and you could spend time in prison for it.. less people are willing to take the risk
3) I agree with you here
agree.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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If anyone has ideas/suggestions for the next topic.... wall post and I will choose it if it is logical. Thank You
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
1) yes other methods will be used but it won't be as easy to kill someone and murder rates will likely decrease
2) true... however it would still decrease the amount of people who have guns.... because if it is illegal and you could spend time in prison for it.. less people are willing to take the risk
3) I agree with you here
agree.
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1) Yes, good point; I would still say if someone is bent on killing someone, they will find other ways. However, crimes of passion/heat of the moment could arguably decrease since guns are an easy thing to use in such cases. Calculated crimes? I'm not sure the decrease would be so significant. Knives would still be easily accessible but that's much more personal than a gunshot.
2) You would think so but that doesn't keep the drug market from thriving here. Some people won't; but others, such as criminals, gang members, and various people who still want guns regardless if they're illegal, will still get guns illegally because they don't give a **** about the rules. That's my concern - people with bad intentions will still have guns but people with good intentions will not.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Jewfro
1) Yes, good point; I would still say if someone is bent on killing someone, they will find other ways. However, crimes of passion/heat of the moment could arguably decrease since guns are an easy thing to use in such cases. Calculated crimes? I'm not sure the decrease would be so significant. Knives would still be easily accessible but that's much more personal than a gunshot.
2) You would think so but that doesn't keep the drug market from thriving here. Some people won't; but others, such as criminals, gang members, and various people who still want guns regardless if they're illegal, will still get guns illegally because they don't give a **** about the rules. That's my concern - people with bad intentions will still have guns but people with good intentions will not.
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1) Yeah.... it's much harder to stab someone to death then it is to shoot someone...
2) Agree.... that could be a concern, sad that people can't just follow basic rules 
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ATRL Contributor
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Completely agree with it. Even though it can't be completely successful, ignorant people shouldn't be allowed to be in possession of them
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Jurred
Completely agree with it. Even though it can't be completely successful, ignorant people shouldn't be allowed to be in possession of them
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Agree  Thank you for posting your thoughts on this less popular topic lol 
Tomorrow's topic will be more controversial than this one 
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I agree...people with clean records should be allowed to carry guns. Yet, that won't stop drug lords and other criminals from carrying them.
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Member Since: 10/28/2008
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I'm all for gun control. It should be regulated since a lot of people are easily persuaded by their arrogance while holding possession of a firearm. 
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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The gun laws in America are appalling.
People NEED a mental health and background check before they buy a gun, you should have to apply for a license and people who are not stable or wanting a gun for the right reason it should be rejected.
The whole 'theyd find other ways to kill' thing is stupid, the USA, for it's population size, has the highest gun crime and murder than any other western country. Whether or not theyd find another way guns are the easiest and if they were not readily available crime would go down.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
The gun laws in America are appalling.
People NEED a mental health and background check before they buy a gun, you should have to apply for a license and people who are not stable or wanting a gun for the right reason it should be rejected.
The whole 'theyd find other ways to kill' thing is stupid, the USA, for it's population size, has the highest gun crime and murder than any other western country. Whether or not theyd find another way guns are the easiest and if they were not readily available crime would go down.
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Agree
and  at your signature
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Gun control is not about banning guns, it's about controlling the availability of guns. People seem to think that it's their constitutional right to have free and easy access to guns because of the Second Amendment. Um, no. That amendment is about militias, which we no longer have. I think requiring background checks and more regulation in the purchase of firearms is an extremely important step. We have very real problems with street violence, school shootings and the like in this country and we should be trying to do something about it.
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