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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (December 16-23, 2009)
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We do have to give it to the Britney stans -- their girl has had LONGEVITY.
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i feel bad for the boy in that pic
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What you are saying works in theory, but not in reality. Fans are fickle, not loyal. So according to you Rihanna is flopping because she doesn't have a strong fanbase, is that the case for Mariah Carey aswell? If she had a 'stong fanbase' then surely she would have a hit regardless of the quality of her material... Surely you can explain to me why Britney's Blackout album flopped? Shall we go with your theory that she doesn't have a strong fanbase? Blackout was one ofher best. The majority of people are not crazed die hard stans for anybody, unlike the people on this forum... Often people buy a song/album because they like the matrerial, they don't have to like the artist/group. Sucess does not last indefinitely.
With regard to Lady GaGa a release of 'speechless' would be a terrible idea, its not single material. I hate it.
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Actually yes. Mariah Carey's fanbase is weak as Hell at the moment and has been since Glitter / Charmbracelet. She dropped the ball then. Emancipation was not a sign of a fanbase, it's the same case as Good Girl Gone Bad. It was an in the moment situation. She was producing hot songs, so people were buying it. Stop producing hot songs, public stopped buying. Memoirs further proves this since it's the closest Mariah has come to making music that made her and it still wasn't being bought. So yes, she doesn't have a strong fanbase.
Blackout? Wow. Blackout UNDERPERFORMED because of so many reasons. Her fanbase was vulnerable at the time. The music was great, it was what fans wanted, but a lot doubted her and didn't want to associate. Her personal life affected the fanbase, not the music. So your example to my is invalid. Britney does have die hard fans outside forums. You might not recognize it, but she does. Nice try though.
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Originally posted by Bibliotheque
EXACTLY
and that is all that tschai said before you had a meltdown and brought up Britneys 11 years back catalogue vs GaGa's 1 year catalogue
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
How can you even compare? Britney has been around for 11 years, Gaga for 1 year.
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But GaGa stans are always the first to attack Britney. Even when a Britney stan is congratulating another artist you all come and claim they are jealous. It's stupid.
And I've figured the Ke$ha situation. Ke$ha is actually GaGa's competition. Her stans are threatened because an actual new artist is outdoing her. Instead of comparing to Britney who is of a much higher stature than GaGa.
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Originally posted by tschai
LOL. I can't even remember those songs. Refresh my mind, please.
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I really hate idiocy. And you are the definition of it based on your posts. "...Baby One More Time", "Crazy", "Oops!...I Did It Again", "I'm A Slave 4 U", "Toxic", "Piece of Me", and "Womanizer" are all iconic songs for Britney. And FYI, "Womanizer" is among one of Britney's most covered songs a long with "Toxic" and "BOMT".
A signature song is ONE SONG (or a couple) that an established artist is most associated with. Even if they have had a lot of hits, the signature song is THE song. Britney's signature song is definitely "...Baby One More Time". "Toxic" is also considered one. So your laughing at that is quite ridiculous.
Meaning you would laugh that Michael Jackson's signature song is "Thriller". He's mad bunches of hits, but "Thriller" is the signature one. Madonna's signature would be "Like A Virgin". Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" would go for her, Aretha Franklin "Respect". Though these people have a lot of hits, one song defines them.
GaGa doesn't even have a signature song as of yet. "Just Dance" is a forgettable pop song, "Poker Face" is just a huge hit. It will most likely be her biggest hit as I doubt she will top it in success and definitely quality.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
I really hate idiocy. And you are the definition of it based on your posts. "...Baby One More Time", "Crazy", "Oops!...I Did It Again", "I'm A Slave 4 U", "Toxic", "Piece of Me", and "Womanizer" are all iconic songs for Britney. And FYI, "Womanizer" is among one of Britney's most covered songs a long with "Toxic" and "BOMT".
A signature song is ONE SONG (or a couple) that an established artist is most associated with. Even if they have had a lot of hits, the signature song is THE song. Britney's signature song is definitely "...Baby One More Time". "Toxic" is also considered one. So your laughing at that is quite ridiculous.
Meaning you would laugh that Michael Jackson's signature song is "Thriller". He's mad bunches of hits, but "Thriller" is the signature one. Madonna's signature would be "Like A Virgin". Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" would go for her, Aretha Franklin "Respect". Though these people have a lot of hits, one song defines them.
GaGa doesn't even have a signature song as of yet. "Just Dance" is a forgettable pop song, "Poker Face" is just a huge hit. It will most likely be her biggest hit as I doubt she will top it in success and definitely quality.
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Interesting that you find that! I sure hope not though. GaGa has a lot of promise and potential as a musician, and we've already seen some of that potential turn into success ala Poker Face. But, considering GaGa's only been around for a year, I don't think she's reached one of her peaks. A defining song usually comes at a peak, just as Toxic ( ) did, and in the beginning of the career (such as BOMT for Britney, or Poker Face for GaGa - I have found that Poker Face is quite memorable for the general public, due to its widespread success across the Western world)
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Originally posted by £100
Interesting that you find that! I sure hope not though. GaGa has a lot of promise and potential as a musician, and we've already seen some of that potential turn into success ala Poker Face. But, considering GaGa's only been around for a year, I don't think she's reached one of her peaks. A defining song usually comes at a peak, just as Toxic ( ) did, and in the beginning of the career (such as BOMT for Britney, or Poker Face for GaGa - I have found that Poker Face is quite memorable for the general public, due to its widespread success across the Western world)
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Eh, I guess it's true. I just don't know how much more GaGa can do outside the pop/dance area and the RedOne productions. We'll see I guess.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Eh, I guess it's true. I just don't know how much more GaGa can do outside the pop/dance area and the RedOne productions. We'll see I guess.
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I think (or hope ) that GaGa will do ok outside RedOne. Hopefully we'll see her move away from RedOne dominated albums, because I think with a diverse collection of producers (assuming she picks the right ones) she'll just get better.
But, yes, we shall see. Speculation can and usually ends up being totally incorrect.
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ahhh and this stupid wars continue GaGa stans saying britney is ****, britney stans saying GaGa is nothing .
I have so much respect for GaGa cuz the bish has achieved so manyy stuff in just one year, she knows hoe to entertain people, she's "creative", she's fun, she can sing. I think she has a very bright future and I can't wait to see her evolving and developing as an artist cuz she has potential.
Britney is a pop icon and is stupd that other stans are trashing her lately, like it or not the bish has had a lot of success and somehow she managed to stay here for more than a decade, how many artists can do that??? not so many if u ask me, stans are just trashing her cuz their faves did better than her this year.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Eh, I guess it's true. I just don't know how much more GaGa can do outside the pop/dance area and the RedOne productions. We'll see I guess.
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Couldn't someone have said that about Britney and Max Martin in 2000? Let's not do hypotheticals mmkay?
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^ yes they could of but she did and could do stuff outside of max martin
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
I really hate idiocy. And you are the definition of it based on your posts. "...Baby One More Time", "Crazy", "Oops!...I Did It Again", "I'm A Slave 4 U", "Toxic", "Piece of Me", and "Womanizer" are all iconic songs for Britney. And FYI, "Womanizer" is among one of Britney's most covered songs a long with "Toxic" and "BOMT".
GaGa doesn't even have a signature song as of yet. "Just Dance" is a forgettable pop song, "Poker Face" is just a huge hit. It will most likely be her biggest hit as I doubt she will top it in success and definitely quality.
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what you type makes NO sense. you basically just selcted a handfull of britney hits and deemed them memorable and iconic, and then casually dismissed all of gaga's hits, even going as as far as to say "poker face is just a huge hit"
the problem with your logic is that you based your entire analysis of reality off your own individual perception, which is deeply flawed. what evidence did you employ to support your theory?? because as far as i i'm aware of, Gaga's hits thus far have been "monumental" enough to shatter records left and right and dominate radio and downloads for an entire year....but i guess none of that matters since you've determined that there all unforgettable pop songs
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Eh, I guess it's true. I just don't know how much more GaGa can do outside the pop/dance area and the RedOne productions. We'll see I guess.
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Originally posted by MonsterRoco
^ yes they could of but she did and could do stuff outside of max martin
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And GaGa's done things outside of RedOne so...
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Can we PLEASE end the GaGa/Britney thing? It's so tiring.
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Originally posted by £100
Can we PLEASE end the GaGa/Britney thing? It's so tiring.
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Amen. Not to mention it's POINTLESS & IMMATURE.
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Amen. Not to mention it's POINTLESS & IMMATURE.
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Bish I am trying to get a simple point across, it's not my fault it takes this long!
But ok
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
I really hate idiocy. And you are the definition of it based on your posts. "...Baby One More Time", "Crazy", "Oops!...I Did It Again", "I'm A Slave 4 U", "Toxic", "Piece of Me", and "Womanizer" are all iconic songs for Britney. And FYI, "Womanizer" is among one of Britney's most covered songs a long with "Toxic" and "BOMT".
A signature song is ONE SONG (or a couple) that an established artist is most associated with. Even if they have had a lot of hits, the signature song is THE song. Britney's signature song is definitely "...Baby One More Time". "Toxic" is also considered one. So your laughing at that is quite ridiculous.
Meaning you would laugh that Michael Jackson's signature song is "Thriller". He's mad bunches of hits, but "Thriller" is the signature one. Madonna's signature would be "Like A Virgin". Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" would go for her, Aretha Franklin "Respect". Though these people have a lot of hits, one song defines them.
GaGa doesn't even have a signature song as of yet. "Just Dance" is a forgettable pop song, "Poker Face" is just a huge hit. It will most likely be her biggest hit as I doubt she will top it in success and definitely quality.
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TELL EM.
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Bish I am trying to get a simple point across, it's not my fault it takes this long!
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Bish, so is everyone else. But by trying to make your long "simple point" across just ensues more arguments. It's the same thing the Britney stans are trying to do. Give everybody a simple point. Everyone just needs to get over it. Nobody's competing. They're both the **** in what they do as entertainers.
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