[bleuwaffle]

Originally posted by Kamren

Pretty much any politician is qualified for the job of VP. It's such a dead-end job It's more the symbolism of the role that's important which makes who she chooses important.

I know that. But it's a little demeaning to pick a minority VP for the sake of pandering, not to mention obvious politics.

[Radiance]

Originally posted by Kamren

Pretty much any politician is qualified for the job of VP. It's such a dead-end job It's more the symbolism of the role that's important which makes who she chooses important.

It depends on the administration.

Dick Cheney was incredibly powerful in Bush's Administration, much more so than any other cabinet member including the SoS. He had a much stronger hold on foreign policy than SecState.

Biden has been more symbolic, as he's been dwarfed by Clinton/Kerry in foreign policy and Sebelius (due to ACA)/other secs in domestic.

I think if Warren were VP, she'd use the position effectively.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Kinuotose

Where can I see the actual delegates math? Has Hillary reached the magic number in pledged delegates? Has Bernie earned enough pledged delegates to win if he convinces Hillary's super delegates to support him?
In short I just wanna know if Hillary is the nominee without a single doubt or is there anything Bernie will cling to?
Meanwhile, congrats Hillary!

Okay, SO. I will give you everything you need.

Hillary has 2,203 pledged delegates, which is well over the majority of pledged votes. However, it is not enough to undeniably "secure" the nomination without superdelegates; it's 180 short to be exact.

Despite this, she has definitively secured the nomination. Never in history have the supers ever overturned the will of the popular vote; they were polled by the AP on Monday and reaffirmed their support. The only delegate to switch has gone from Bernie to Clinton - they don't switch.

It's over, no matter what Bernie clings to, and if 2008 is any indication he will concede very soon, just as Hillary did when she was much closer to Obama in the pledged count and had a far better shot at "turning" supers.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by RatedG²

As soon as Retro sees this he's gonna geek out and help you

[Retro]

Originally posted by RatedG²

As soon as Retro sees this he's gonna geek out and help you

bye you little street corner hooker stop shading meee

[Kinuotose]

Originally posted by jpow

Clinton has 2,777 delegates - 2,203 of those are pledged and 574 are super delegates.
Bernie has 1,876 delegates - 1,828 are pledged and 48 are super delegates.

508 of Clinton's super delegates would have to switch for Bernie to go over 2,383.

Thanks so much!
Are there enough delegates remaining for Hillary to reach the 2,383 mark?
I know Bernie is not able to reach the mark without the super delegates but I'm not sure bout Hillary.

[Radiance]

Originally posted by Kinuotose

Thanks so much!
Are there enough delegates remaining for Hillary to reach the 2,383 mark?
I know Bernie is not able to reach the mark without the super delegates but I'm not sure bout Hillary.

Nope, only 20 (D.C) left to be won.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Kinuotose

Thanks so much!
Are there enough delegates remaining for Hillary to reach the 2,383 mark?
I know Bernie is not able to reach the mark without the super delegates but I'm not sure bout Hillary.

There's only 20 left and also why does your post have eleven [CENTER] tags

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by Retro

bye you little street corner hooker stop shading meee

who reported

[Kamren]

Originally posted by RatedG²

As soon as Retro sees this he's gonna geek out and help you

Originally posted by Retro

Okay, SO. I will give you everything you need.

Hillary has 2,203 pledged delegates, which is well over the majority of pledged votes. However, it is not enough to undeniably "secure" the nomination without superdelegates; it's 180 short to be exact.

Despite this, she has definitively secured the nomination. Never in history have the supers ever overturned the will of the popular vote; they were polled by the AP on Monday and reaffirmed their support. The only delegate to switch has gone from Bernie to Clinton - they don't switch.

It's over, no matter what Bernie clings to, and if 2008 is any indication he will concede very soon, just as Hillary did when she was much closer to Obama in the pledged count and had a far better shot at "turning" supers.

Originally posted by RatedG²

Originally posted by Retro

bye you little street corner hooker stop shading meee

You guys are too cute I just want to pinch your cheeks for some reason

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Retro

There's only 20 left and also why does your post have eleven [CENTER] tags

Not 11 [center] tags

[Kinuotose]

Originally posted by Retro

Okay, SO. I will give you everything you need.

Hillary has 2,203 pledged delegates, which is well over the majority of pledged votes. However, it is not enough to undeniably "secure" the nomination without superdelegates; it's 180 short to be exact.

Despite this, she has definitively secured the nomination. Never in history have the supers ever overturned the will of the popular vote; they were polled by the AP on Monday and reaffirmed their support. The only delegate to switch has gone from Bernie to Clinton - they don't switch.

It's over, no matter what Bernie clings to, and if 2008 is any indication he will concede very soon, just as Hillary did when she was much closer to Obama in the pledged count and had a far better shot at "turning" supers.

I see
Thanks sis

[Skywalker]

Clinton leads Trump by 24 points among college-educated white women—a group Pres. Obama lost by 6 points in 2012

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clint...&cid=abcnp_tco

[Kinuotose]

Originally posted by Retro

There's only 20 left and also why does your post have eleven [CENTER] tags

OMG DRAG ME

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Kamren

You guys are too cute I just want to pinch your cheeks for some reason

. Pinch his cheeks they bruise easily!

Originally posted by Skywalker

Clinton leads Trump by 24 points among college-educated white women—a group Pres. Obama lost by 6 points in 2012

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clint...&cid=abcnp_tco

Not this 30 point swing

[Kamren]

Originally posted by Skywalker

who reported

At this rate, the good sis is going to have to threadban ha self!

How does that even work, though? Would she just tell my daddy atrl-o-matic to pay her a visit in her PMs?

[Kinuotose]

So Bernie can still make the case and not concede until they reach the convention which is next freaking month since they'll both need super delegates support to reach the 2,383 mark?

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by Kinuotose

So Bernie can still make the case and not concede until they reach the convention which is next freaking month since they'll both need super delegates support to reach the 2,383 mark.

I don't think he is still doing this even though he says he is. I expect him to drop out shortly after DC.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Skywalker

I don't think he is still doing this even though he says he is. I expect him to drop out shortly after DC.

I may be in the minority but I don't expect him to drop out. He should, and probably would, suspend his campaign shortly after DC (give or take a week) but he wouldn't drop out. Not until the FBI gives its final verdict (which, going by what we know, is far more likely to be a non indictment). That way, in the small chance she is somehow indicted, he can un-suspend and fight on for the nomination

[Retro]

No, Bernie can't make his case. She won the majority of pledged delegates, we have no use for his continued presence.

Originally posted by Kamren

At this rate, the good sis is going to have to threadban ha self!

How does that even work, though? Would she just tell my daddy atrl-o-matic to pay her a visit in her PMs?

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