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News: Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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Read some of the recently warned posts in here. Those are not simply referring to the radical groups of a religion.
Besides: This thread is about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, while it has now turned into a thread completely devoted to problems people have with the Islamic religion.
If you disagree with this, go to HQ or make a Help Request. This thread is not the place to discuss that.
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Originally posted by BadMonster
That's not ignorant, imagine you are raped by a guy you date and it happens again, of course you are going to be cautious, that's not racism
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Ok just stop now you're seriously getting embarrassing
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Of course it's not jews vs muslim,I was only responding to your earlier comments.FYI the bolded part happened to me and much more.Your claim that I'm ignorant and racist is laughable considering that you think islam has anything to do with race.plus I am not trying to "demonise" muslims just to justify Isreali actions but rather I'm only trying to point out that the rosy picture painted of the palestinians and muslims in general is not entirely true,as in recent times islam has become to radical and the voices of the moderates have been drowned by these radicals,thus the general perception of islam as a violent religion.
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This is a poster from Nigeria, really? Excuse me but to be a minority in Nigeria is as or almost as "bad" as a Palestinian in Gaza. So I think it's understandable that in his post he doesn't show much Christian indulgence.
So a reporting and WP seems to me pretty gross.
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I understand nothing about this, maybe I should take a class on this in the fall
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I understand nothing too but CakeLike is correct
edit: or not. let me get out.
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Idk why CakeLike quoted me but okay. I basically sayed that we shouldn't put everyone in the same box but I have my experience with certain people and yeah. This is not just my opinion though. Many people feel this way. But yeah, I'll keep it cute. I already have 2 warning points, someone needs to stop me
Sorry for going off-topic.
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Originally posted by BadMonster
Some people take offense to easily and misinterpret statements/opinions on purpose because of their religion though, religion has always been the cause of a lot of problems in the world and that is a fact, not an opinion, just look at the world's history. If we discuss radical/terrorist jews/palestinians/muslims some people on here will feel offended when it's very clear you are not referring to them
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Differences in ideology has been and still is the root of all wars and conflicts in the world, be it political, social, religious, or ethical ideologies. Don't just single out religion. Religion contributes a moderate share in people's disputes, yes. But it is largely about politics. Ridding the world of what causes problems will not make the world a peaceful place. It will just make things even worse. Because politics and religion and all other aspects of society have their advantages and disadvantages, benefits and damages. It's something that we have to live by.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
They are using those groups to pass judgement on all muslims. Did you miss the ones talking about how it is hard to trust all muslims because of them groups or how wars are normal where there is a large group of muslims so it makes it hard to side with them?
These are incredibly ignorant things to say and if you can't see it i suggest you educate yourself.
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Enlighten me on how this is ignorant?do I need to start sighting examples for you to understand my statement?It's funny that this is only thing you got from my entire post.the only issue I see with my statement is the lack of trust I have developed based on my PERSONAL experience and that of countless others.plus you could start by quoting my entire post so that you don't quote me out of context.Your problem is that you jump to conclusions and misinterprete what someone actually means,simply because they don't agree with you,an example of this is how you reacted to that particular comment I made,you didn't even have idea why I made the bolded comments before you jumped into conclusion and called me ignorant and racist.
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Originally posted by lightstheyblindme
I understand nothing about this, maybe I should take a class on this in the fall
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There are two versions of the story. One is the actual and official history, and the other one is historical revisionism. The actual history is what you will get from official sources and being taught in most schools. Historical revisionism is what is propagated by those opposed to the establishment of the State of Israel. Many people in this thread are knowledgeable about the issue which is a good thing. But unfortunately most of them fell for the fabricated new historians' version.
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another day, another dead child
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Enlighten me on how this is ignorant?do I need to start sighting examples for you to understand my statement?It's funny that this is only thing you got from my entire post.the only issue I see with my statement is the lack of trust I have developed based on my PERSONAL experience and that of countless others.plus you could start by quoting my entire post so that you don't quote me out of context.Your problem is that you jump to conclusions and misinterprete what someone actually means,simply because they don't agree with you,an example of this is how you reacted to that particular comment I made,you didn't even have idea why I made the bolded comments before you jumped into conclusion and called me ignorant and racist.
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What you said was ignorant,you can deny if you want.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
It's easy for you to say people are stereotyping muslims because you've not been forced to leave your birth place with only the clothes on your back because of religious intolerance on the part of your muslim neighbours,I'm sorry to say until islam rids itself of religious fundamentalist it would continue to be percieved as a violent religion.on a good day I can relate with muslims individualy because the ones I have come across are actualy nice until their religion is bought into the mix,during the times of religious riots in my country it's not uncommon to see a muslim that you thought was your friend lead a mob to your house to finish you off,they are fond of starting trouble and once the other party retaliates they start to act like the victims,the fact that conflicts and wars are the order of the day anywhere there are a significant amount of muslims makes it difficult for me to side with muslims in time of conflict.
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First of all accusing muslims of being "fond of starting trouble", you can't just pass a judgement like that on a group of people because of your own experiences with a minority of them.
The fact that you think wars and conflicts are the "order of the day" where there is a large muslim population is also an incredibly ignorant thing to say, there are plenty of majority muslim countries whom live no different to other non-muslim nations.
Just because they are predominantly Muslim should have nothing to do with how peaceful you deem them to be. You're proceeding from a logical falacy ... the one has nothing to do with the other. How many Catholic nations would pass your test? Not too many in Latin America, not Spain or Ireland, nor Greece, Cyprus, or Malta. How many nations populated predominantly by those of Sub-Sahara African descent would pass your test? Not too many anywhere. How many current or former Communist nations could pass your test? Not very many there, either, are there? How many Asian nations would pass your test, or Third World nations, or emergent democracies? Are you also quick to pass judgement of them?
What you've got there is a prejudice, not a premise
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Alright, anyone who's offtopic will get a threadban from now on.
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Generalization about a whole group of people is naive and ignorant. Using your classically conditioned perception as a gauge for the entire world shows you are not a very educated person.
I am a Muslim and I don't get violent or victimized when I find myself in a debate. I hate when others, including my fellow Muslims, use their own religious-driven emotions instead of logic and historic facts as a way to "win" debates. Open your eyes and mind to the possibility of meeting good Musilms and good people, and who knows, maybe that perception can be corrected. #casedismissed
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another day, another dead child
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God Bless them up in the Heavens.
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United Nations human rights council votes to launch inquiry into alleged Israeli war crimes in Gaza. US votes against.
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Originally posted by Sagitario
United Nations human rights council votes to launch inquiry into alleged Israeli war crimes in Gaza. US votes against.
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So disrespectful/hypocritical Do they have a veto, or will it still go ahead cuz the majority voted in favour?
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Originally posted by lightstheyblindme
I understand nothing about this, maybe I should take a class on this in the fall
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Originally posted by Mariah4life
I understand nothing too but CakeLike is correct
edit: or not. let me get out.
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Long story short, Israel is overreaching.
But the US' hands are bound cause of how money circulates around our legislative branch.
No one in Congress nor the President want to put their necks out.
So we continue in our morally bankrupt support for Israel's conquest.
It's entirely too much.
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Palestinian Family Finds Missing Son in YouTube Video of His Shooting
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After two days of searching for a son they lost contact with during a rushed evacuation from their home in Gaza City, one Palestinian family was surprised to hear the young man’s voice, calling out for a missing cousin, in video posted on YouTube on Monday by human rights activists.
A sister and a cousin of the missing 23-year-old, Salem Khaleel Shamaly, were horrified to see video of him lying on the ground in the ruined neighborhood they had fled, Shejaiya, wounded by an unseen sniper, according to activists from the Palestinian-led International Solidarity Movement who witnessed the incident and released the footage. As the man tried to get to his feet, two more shots rang out, and he stopped moving.
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How can Israelis still claim they are killing them in self defence?
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