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Stats: Madonna Surpasses 15 Million All-Time Attendance | $1.7 B
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It sold way more than 3 million in its first year 
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Originally posted by ezra
In the OP it uses in its certifications "Europe". Like, for Hard Candy it says in "Europe" it sold 1,000,000 copies. But Europe is a continent not a country So, what places does that include and is it double counting sales in places like Hungary, Sweden, Portugal, Poland, etc.? I've never understood what that meant.
Ahhh so Hard Candy sold 3 million worldwide not 4 million. Knew that extra random million sales seemed fishy. OP should update that or clarify! |
You don't say. 
Like Starstruck already told you, those are IFPI awards that represent the sales from a whole region, in this case Europe. And no, certified units from European territories aren't double counted, if it's too difficult for you, you can always grab a calculator and let it do the simple math for you.
HC has sold 4 million worldwide as confirmed by multiple sources, it reached 3/3.5 million during its chart run, so next time inform yourself before saying dumb things little monster. Google is there for you to use. 
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<3 the update!!
She should do 1m we're already at 500k, should be 550 next week!
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Originally posted by ezra
Ahhh so Hard Candy sold 3 million worldwide not 4 million. Knew that extra random million sales seemed fishy. OP should update that or clarify!
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Mediatraffic reported 3.6m back in 2008.
But hey, you tried.
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<3 the update!!
She should do 1m we're already at 500k, should be 550 next week!
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YES fingers crossed that this sells 1M. I think we can hardly call a million selling album in 2015 a flop!
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Originally posted by Sahn
Mediatraffic reported 3.6m back in 2008.
But hey, you tried.
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44. Madonna - Rebel Heart: 590 (Total: 9,780)
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
what Hard Candy did sell 4M copies 
Mediatraffic also confirmed that.
I remember it crossing 3.5M during its chart run. |
Nobody answering my question The question is what countries is IFPI counting for that extra 1 million? You aren't selling 1 million albums in places like Croatia and Crete For example, in TFMs sales it doesn't include the 3 million "Europe" IFPI reported in its total. If it did, it'd be at like 17 million and that's way overestimated.
I think that Europe certification double counts countries in a "summary" of the entire region minus France & the UK. Idk could be wrong
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
YES fingers crossed that this sells 1M. I think we can hardly call a million selling album in 2015 a flop!
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do you think the tour will help?? maybe 1.5m by the end of its run?
she does have like 3 different covers for that mag right and a fallon interview on the 9th right? that could help to keep her doing 50-70k ww next week too
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i think there are 4 covers plus the fallon interview 
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Japan Oricon Weekly:
26 (29) 4 Rebel Heart 2,601 / 20,392
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Originally posted by ezra
Nobody answering my question The question is what countries is IFPI counting for that extra 1 million? You aren't selling 1 million albums in places like Croatia and Crete For example, in TFMs sales it doesn't include the 3 million "Europe" IFPI reported in its total. If it did, it'd be at like 17 million and that's way overestimated.
I think that Europe certification double counts countries in a "summary" of the entire region minus France & the UK. Idk could be wrong |
There's no such thing as "extra million", what exactly is so hard to understand?
Let me explain this the apples and oranges style for you:
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IFPI's Platinum Europe Award honours the elite community of artists who have achieved sales of one million copies of an album in Europe. The award is now recognised as an established hallmark of success for artists in Europe.
Sales in the following countries will be considered eligible for inclusion towards the award: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom.
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Like I said, that info was a few clicks away from you.
HC certified units stand at 2.35 million. 1 million from Europe + 1.35 million from elsewhere. If I double counted European territories like your trolling self is implying the certified units would stand at 3.5 million instead. Keep in mind certified units and estimated sales are two totally different things.
The Fame's certified units stand at 9.9 million (3 million from Europe + 6.9 million from elsewhere). Nowhere near its overestimated sales of 14 million. The problem is you're mixing certified units with estimated sales in a failed attempt to "shade" HC sales. Like someone already said, nice try but NO.
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Originally posted by Rolland
HC certified units stand at 2.35 million. 1 million from Europe + 1.35 million from elsewhere. If I double counted European territories like your trolling self is implying the certified units would stand at 3.5 million instead. Keep in mind certified units and estimated sales are two totally different things.
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Stay on topic. TF's award for 3 million was an example not something to argue over. And it's certified sales are 13.1M alone. Look it up.
Anyway, what I'm pointing out is this:
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Sales in the following countries will be considered eligible for inclusion towards the award: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom.
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HC's total already includes many of these countries in its total so why would we re-add this 1 million sales to the total a second time? All I'm saying. Looks strange to me.
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wtf? HC sold well over 3.5M during its chart run. Go to UKmix for the weekly receipts. What extra extra 1M are you even talking about?
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Originally posted by ezra
Stay on topic. TF's award for 3 million was an example not something to argue over. And it's certified sales are 13.1M alone. Look it up.
Anyway, what I'm pointing out is this:
HC's total already includes many of these countries in its total so why would we re-add this 1 million sales to the total a second time? All I'm saying. Looks strange to me.
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Nah, you're confused.
If you do:
United States (744,000) + Japan (252,520) + Canada (120,000) + Mexico (80,000) Australia (70,000) + Brazil (60,000) + Argentina (40,000) + Chile (5,000) = 1,371,520 + Europe (1,000,000) = 2,371,520.
This total= CERTIFIED SALES: 2.3 million (Number from the OP).
As you said, Europe = UK (335,523) + France (240,000) + Germany (200,000) + Italy (70,000) + Russia (60,000) + + Spain (40,000) Denmark (30,000) + Switzerland (30,000) + Finland (20,311) + Sweden (20,000) + Austria (20,000) + Poland (20,000) + Portugal (20,000) Greece (15,000) + Ireland (15,000) + Hungary (6,000) + Turkey (3,000) = 1,144,834. (Keep in my mind the IFPI certification is outdated, thus lower than the actual european number).
It wasn't double counted:
-You either take IFPI's number and you get 2,371,520 certified sales
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-You do the total of Europe and you get 2,516,354 certified sales.
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Originally posted by bsdoacao3
Japan Oricon Weekly:
26 (29) 4 Rebel Heart 2,601 / 20,392
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Gold is 100,000.. is she touring there? if she doesn't then she had no hope of going Gold there sadly 
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Originally posted by ezra
Nobody answering my question The question is what countries is IFPI counting for that extra 1 million? You aren't selling 1 million albums in places like Croatia and Crete For example, in TFMs sales it doesn't include the 3 million "Europe" IFPI reported in its total. If it did, it'd be at like 17 million and that's way overestimated.
I think that Europe certification double counts countries in a "summary" of the entire region minus France & the UK. Idk could be wrong |
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The IFPI Platinum Europe Awards were founded in 1996. They are awarded for actual retail sales (as opposed to shipments) of one million albums, in one of the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey and United Kingdom.
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It's just an award for cumulative European sales. However, just because an album has received the IFPI Platinum Europe Award does not mean that it sold only 1M copies in Europe. It could certainly be somewhere above 1M, perhaps 1.5M or higher, but not enough to receive 2X IFPI Platinum cert (which is likely the case w/ Hard Candy).
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So far this week:
UK - 4.7k
US - 12k
Japan - 2.6k
40k worldwide this week?
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wait 500k isd pretty good
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