So you're siding with a terrorist group who are telling you that acts of violence are within the Qur'an.
You're otherwise not listening to the billions of others who condemn these acts and are too, Muslims. Like many others who have been captured, tortured, raped and sold within the Middle East. Those who speak loudest not always speak truth, no?
I'm not siding with anyone. I'm actually reading the Quran. You might want to try it sometime, before you make threads of this nature.
All religions, they are all the same: spew hatred and violence under the umbrella of faith and love. The root of all evil in this world. The sooner we get rid of them, the quicker the world would change for good.
The biggest problem is that Muslims are huge hypocrites. The majority aren't bad people, but quickly put the blame on everyone but themselves. Terrorist attack happens --> ISRAEL AND USA FAULT, THE WEST CREATED THIS MESS etc. every single time.
The biggest problem is that there is no clear line dividing peaceful Muslims and extremists. We know there are hundreds of thousands of Muslims who hate western society, but we don't know who is capable of what. So it becomes a very tricky problem... And most people will choose their safety over their concern of discriminating against someone.
All religions, they are all the same: spew hatred and violence under the umbrella of faith and love. The root of all evil in this world. The sooner we get rid of them, the quicker the world would change for good.
Here's the problem. Did you read Quran without referring to someone expert?
What do you mean by experts? I read the translations available to me. I personally don't know Arabic. But the majority of Muslims in the UK atleast can read Arabic but don't actually understand it. So I don't see myself as any less informed as the western Muslims, in that respect.
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I have already read the Qur'an, and have many Muslim friends who are very much against the so-called Islamic State.
If you're fuelled with a hatred nature, not even reading can save you. Lbr, no one is surprised; we've read your posts.
Ok. So when you read commandments of stoning, amputations, and the whole concept of lesser jihad, how do u come to the conclusion that Islam is a "peaceful" religion.
All religions, they are all the same: spew hatred and violence under the umbrella of faith and love. The root of all evil in this world. The sooner we get rid of them, the quicker the world would change for good.
Well this is fair, given the context.
I would much prefer it to be problem within religion as a whole than just Islam, which ostracises peace loving Muslims.
However anti-religion isn't something that's probable. We're talking about billions, and we're gonna be dead within 100 years.
Taking the action against religion would end the world, in my opinion. Like, it just isn't going to happen. God exists for many.
Ok. So when you read commandments of stoning, amputations, and the whole concept of lesser jihad, how do u come to the conclusion that Islam is a "peaceful" religion.
You're referring to the Torah, yes? There's no reference to stoning at all. It's purely a myth.
Watch these so called moderate Muslims ever so reluctant to condemn killing apostates and disavow religious leaders who encourage it, along with female genital mutilation, and executing gays.
They couldn't even bring themselves to lie on LIVE television. When they know they're being judged by thousands.
Watch these so called moderate Muslims ever so reluctant to condemn killing apostates and disavow religious leaders who encourage it, along with female genital mutilation, and executing gays.
They couldn't even bring themselves to lie on LIVE television. When they know they're being judged by thousands.
He said he disagrees. Are you exposing him as a fake Muslim or?
Either it's he's lying about his religion or there's no Biblical evidence to suggest mutilation is favoured by Islam.
You're referring to the Torah, yes? There's no reference to stoning at all. It's purely a myth.
In the Hadith there is stoning.
But even if you want to dismiss stoning, there is still plenty of violence in the quran. Don't make me quote you every single verse.
All religions, they are all the same: spew hatred and violence under the umbrella of faith and love. The root of all evil in this world. The sooner we get rid of them, the quicker the world would change for good.
This has no historical basis whatsoever. Atheism peaked in the 20th century and it was the bloodiest century. More people died as a result of secularist and humanistic ideologies in the last century alone than have died in all the religiously motivated conflicts of in history.
What do you mean by experts? I read the translations available to me. I personally don't know Arabic. But the majority of Muslims in the UK atleast can read Arabic but don't actually understand it. So I don't see myself as any less informed as the western Muslims, in that respect.
Ok. So when you read commandments of stoning, amputations, and the whole concept of lesser jihad, how do u come to the conclusion that Islam is a "peaceful" religion.
You can't simply accept those words without knowing and studying the real meaning of them. In Islam, every single act have explanation and reasons.
I recommend you to watch Dr. Zakir Naik's videos. They are very interesting. You can see a lot of people of other religions or even an atheist asking him any question and problem that might confusing them regarding to Islam. Then, you can make your justification
It's Christian and Jewish soldiers who are all over Islamic territories bombing the hell out of civilians in Syria right now.
There's been no Muslim military action here in the states. We fear far away extremism here as if the 500,000 children killed in the Iraq war was justifiable. Disgusting. 3 million Syrian children are now unable to go to school. Many of them orphaned, malnourished, and dying. What will they think about in the future, peace or revenge? Russia alone killed over 2,000 Syrian civilians in the last 6 months "fighting ISIS".. a terrorist group proven to be funded by the Gulf States + The West to provide a cover war with access to oil and gas. ISIS provides young, distressed Arab men a hearty salary and that's the harsh reality.
Religion is used to fuel Political and Militant Extremism. If Christians/Jews didn't fear/hate Muslims this fraudulent war on terror wouldn't be possible.