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News: "Christopher Columbus was a terrorist, caused mass genocide"
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Americans are too much. How can you truly move forward if your so hung-up about the past. What went down was disgusting and wrong, but instead of doing nothing about it, move on and better yourselves. It's like a relationship. You don't keep talking about your ex, you find someone else and do better.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Americans are too much. How can you truly move forward if your so hung-up about the past. What went down was disgusting and wrong, but instead of doing nothing about it, move on and better yourselves. It's like a relationship. You don't keep talking about your ex, you find someone else and do better.
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Not if he's marked on my calendar
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Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Americans are too much. How can you truly move forward if your so hung-up about the past. What went down was disgusting and wrong, but instead of doing nothing about it, move on and better yourselves. It's like a relationship. You don't keep talking about your ex, you find someone else and do better.
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And how exactly do you move on from your ex and find someone else without acknowledging the past and learning from it? You don't.
Most American schools don't teach anything about these atrocities. Does the British school system do the same? Actually, now I get why you're so upset about acknowledging the past. Where would you even start?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Americans are too much. How can you truly move forward if your so hung-up about the past. What went down was disgusting and wrong, but instead of doing nothing about it, move on and better yourselves. It's like a relationship. You don't keep talking about your ex, you find someone else and do better.
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Are you on crack?
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It's crazy to think places in South America, North America & the Caribbean which all have huge Native American & Black populations still celebrate Columbus
But it makes sense since the ones in power in most of those countries were affected positively by him.
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My city has already paid reparations. Thank you.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Originally posted by Khaleesi
They should teach this **** in school.
If I would have known and comprehended this back when I was little, making those stupid hand turkeys I would have been disgusted.
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Nothing wrong with making hand turkeys
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Originally posted by Callisto.
It's crazy to think places in South America, North America & the Caribbean which all have huge Native American & Black populations still celebrate Columbus
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They don't hold grudges, what's so crazy?
To truly move on from pain and hurt you've got to forgive the person who caused it. Look it up.
ATRL turning into SJW's with every post.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by BadBitches
They don't hold grudges, what's so crazy?
To truly move on from pain and hurt you've got to forgive the person who caused it. Look it up.
ATRL turning into SJW's with every post.
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Bitch this is is a man who helped start a genocide of one population and the enslavement of another.
If this were Hitler the girls would have burned down parliament for even thinking of giving him a holiday.
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Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
I see the SJWs are out again. This is boring. Columbus lived in an era of violence, slavery, religious intolerance etc.
At this rate you should ban Thanksgiving for the same reason or Presidents' Day because most of the founders had slaves.
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And here comes the typical whining about SJWs. It's boring.
For the record, violence, slavery and religious intolerance were only rampant in certain parts of the world and then promoted in other parts of the world by those same people. Blaming the era is a cop out, especially considering those things still exist.
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Originally posted by BadBitches
They don't hold grudges, what's so crazy?
To truly move on from pain and hurt you've got to forgive the person who caused it. Look it up.
ATRL turing into SJW with every post.
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They celebrate it because most of them are completely unaware of the facts, not because they don't hold grudges and love to forgive.
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Bitch this is is a man who helped start a genocide of one population and the enslavement of another.
If this were Hitler the girls would have burned down parliament for even thinking of giving him a holiday.
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Pretty much every celebrated icon in the History of the USA has a pretty ****** track record. The founding fathers owned slaves, Lincoln arrested any reporter he thought was a confederate, Teddy Roosevelt killed people, FDR burned farmers crops, etc etc. They celebrate Columbus day because it marked the very beginning of European Civilization in the New world. Columbus was a bad person, but not particular bad for his time.
I'm not meaning to excuse or play off some of the evil things he did, but he, like our founders, and like us today was a product of his time. And even though he did evil things it does not make him any less important in the history of the world, his impact in changing the course of world history is what we celebrate on Columbus day.
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ATRL Contributor
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Americans are too much. How can you truly move forward if your so hung-up about the past. What went down was disgusting and wrong, but instead of doing nothing about it, move on and better yourselves. It's like a relationship. You don't keep talking about your ex, you find someone else and do better.
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I just
Yeah, Columbus day should be abolished IMO. Read his journals, the first thing he said when he reached the Americas was basically 'yeah the Taino's are really pretty and very nice, they'll make great slaves!'
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
I see the SJWs are out again. This is boring. Columbus lived in an era of violence, slavery, religious intolerance etc.
At this rate you should ban Thanksgiving for the same reason or Presidents' Day because most of the founders had slaves.
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Americans are too much. How can you truly move forward if your so hung-up about the past. What went down was disgusting and wrong, but instead of doing nothing about it, move on and better yourselves. It's like a relationship. You don't keep talking about your ex, you find someone else and do better.
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Lol
edit - lolx3 at badbitches' posts 2 and 3. It really does take a certain type of person to think like that
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Who actually "celebrates" Columbus Day tho?
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Inverted
And here comes the typical whining about SJWs. It's boring.
For the record, violence, slavery and religious intolerance were only rampant in certain parts of the world and then promoted in other parts of the world by those same people. Blaming the era is a cop out, especially considering those things still exist.
They celebrate it because most of them are completely unaware of the facts, not because they don't hold grudges and love to forgive.
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You don't see nearly as many articles in the mainstream about why keeping Columbus Day really isn't that big of a deal. I'm serving as a small counter-balance to all that.
They were rampant in most parts of the world, at least for the first two. Native American tribes fought against each other for land, winning tribes in Africa would enslave the losers and sell them to the Europeans, the Ottomans were just as violent as the Europeans etc.
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Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by BadBitches
Pretty much every celebrated icon in the History of the USA has a pretty ****** track record. The founding fathers owned slaves, Lincoln arrested any reporter he thought was a confederate, Teddy Roosevelt killed people, FDR burned farmers crops, etc etc. They celebrate Columbus day because it marked the very beginning of European Civilization in the New world. Columbus was a bad person, but not particular bad for his time.
I'm not meaning to excuse or play off some of the evil things he did, but he, like our founders, and like us today was a product of his time. And even though he did evil things it does not make him any less important in the history of the world, his impact in changing the course of world history is what we celebrate on Columbus day.
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You're completely missing the point. The article is about acknowledging the truthful account of events that happened and are ignored by most people. There's no big campaign to get rid of the holiday. Did you even read the article?
By the way, the bold part made me laugh.
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Member Since: 6/30/2012
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Originally posted by Inverted
By the way, the bold part made me laugh.
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While Columbus certainly would be considered an asshole by today's standards because he thought of natives as lesser peoples from his day he was actually probably one of the "nicer" (less bad, however you want to think of it) leaders, even if only for his benefit. With the exception of Casas and his supporters every other source on Columbus basically agrees that Columbus took a very practical approach to natives: Be nice to them because otherwise they revolt and we have to fight them which is a pain in the ass and we don't make as much money. Being "nice" to a people you've conquered is still kind of a jackass thing I suppose. But as has been pointed out elsewhere plenty of times he was a product of his time.
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