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Discussion: Do you think eating meat will be illegal in the future?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I don't think so. There's so much love for fast food.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by Callum
Nope, because by that exact same logic we shouldn't be eating any plants or vegetables either. Then what the **** would we do  |
umm ... to catch a full grown apple from a tree is not the same as beheading an animal
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Nano
If a person murders another human painlessly, does that mean there's nothing wrong with it?
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We're talking about animals, not humans.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by XXXO
You would need two Earth planets to grow vegetables enough to feed six billion people, and considering you need way more amount of vegetables and fruits to be healthy and active than you do eating meat it's totally impossible. We'll be destroying the planet faster.
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Please post some receipts for this.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by XXXO
You would need two Earth planets to grow vegetables enough to feed six billion people, and considering you need way more amount of vegetables and fruits to be healthy and active than you do eating meat it's totally impossible. We'll be destroying the planet faster.
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Oh this!
Although as a kid I was taught by some teacher that if we took away the entire population of Sudan and departed them into another country and made Sudan an entirely agricultural country it would produce enough food to feed all of Africa I think this teacher was a low key revolutionist pan Africa minded individual though
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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This all comes down to this - you simply can't compare a human life to that the life of a cow, chicken, dog, cat, mouse, spider, fly ... For OBVIOUS reasons. And if you do, then... I'll pray for you.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Maybe from animals. GM meat is the future, methinks.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Exzime.
I don't think so. There's so much love for fast food.
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Meat isn't only fast food 
In Italy, cold cuts, as well as pig, horse and cow meat are essential for our diet. In some countries where vegetables hardly grow, like Iceland and Greenland, meat is fundamental.
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
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Most humans are unashamedly cold and selfish so it'll never happen.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Peroxide
This all comes down to this - you simply can't compare a human life to that the life of a cow, chicken, dog, cat, mouse, spider, fly ... For OBVIOUS reasons. And if you do, then... I'll pray for you.
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I think the huge amounts of people who are volunteering for animal rights organizations would disagree with you.
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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I refuse to feel guilty for enjoying meat. There'd be no spaghetti without the meatballs. 
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Originally posted by NX127
umm ... to catch a full grown apple from a tree is not the same as beheading an animal |
Wait. They're not?
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Member Since: 6/9/2012
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Originally posted by Nano
Please post some receipts for this.
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I'll provide you some
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Advantages of a meat diet:
Vitamin B12: Vitamin B12 is only found in meat, fish, eggs and milk, although it is sometimes added to cereals and margarines. It is vital for the formation of red blood cells and nerve fibres. If our bodies don't produce enough red blood cells this can lead to iron deficiency known as anaemia.
{2} Protein: Two-thirds of protein comes from meat, fish, eggs and dairy food. However, protein can also be found in cereal products, nuts and pulses. Recent studies show most of us eat more protein that we need. The recommended intake is 45 grammes for women and 55 grammes for men.
[3] Iron: Iron from animal sources is more easily absorbed than iron from plant sources. This is because various substances contained in iron from plant sources can bind iron, reducing absorption. However, Vitamin C found in fruit and vegetables aids the absorption of this kind of iron. Vegetarians should drink a glass of fruit juice with their cereal to help absorb iron because it promotes a more easily absorbable acidic environment.
Omega 3: Research shows that high levels of the omega-3 fatty acids found in mackerel, herring and sardines help keep blood healthy and stop clots forming. It is already recognised that eating fish protects against a number of conditions including heart disease and high cholesterol. The downside Saturated fat: Meat contains saturated fats which can block the absorption of essential fats - important for maintaining cell structure. Too many saturated fats can make the body's cells less flexible and affect the flow of nutrients in and out of the cells. High intakes of some saturated fatty acids can increase the amount of cholesterol in the blood, and therefore increase the risk of heart disease. Fats and spreads (eg margarine, butter, lard) fish and meat products, milk and cereal are major sources of saturated fatty acids. Nutritionists recommend eating the lean side of meat - rather than fatty joints - because it contains higher levels of nutrients and lower levels of fat
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-best-you.html
It's clear since meat has more calories so it gives to you more energy than vegetarian diet does.
And just imagine feeding six billion people with only vegetarian products, it wouldn't be good for nature for sure, how many woods and natural areas will have to be destroyed and converted in areas to grow plants? It would be insane
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Peroxide
This all comes down to this - you simply can't compare a human life to that the life of a cow, chicken, dog, cat, mouse, spider, fly ... For OBVIOUS reasons. And if you do, then... I'll pray for you.
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How can someone be so selfish,insensitive and i dont know what else
I'll pray for you first....
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Originally posted by Nano
I think the huge amounts of people who are volunteering for animal rights organizations would disagree with you.
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Let's not.
Supporting animal rights in no way means you think animal life is just as important as human life. There is a difference between thinking an animal's life has value and thinking an animal life has the same value as a human life.
There is literally no sustainable argument you could make for why an animal life would EVER be as valuable as a human life. Think about what exactly it is that you think gives that animal's life value and I guarantee you'll find that quality to be possessed in spades more by a human life.
Free will, intelligence, imagination, morality, overall potential, self awareness. It bears no comparison.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by XXXO
I'll provide you some
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-best-you.html
It's clear since meat has more calories so it gives to you more energy than vegetarian diet does.
And just imagine feeding six billion people with only vegetarian products, it wouldn't be good for nature for sure, how many woods and natural areas will have to be destroyed and converted in areas to grow plants? It would be insane |
Not the Daily Mail as a source Here is an actual reliable source:
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A human population expected to grow by 3 billion, a shift in developing countries to eating more meat, and global consumption on track to double in 40 years point to the mother of all food crises down the road. How much food we grow is not just limited by the amount of available land but meat-eaters need far more space than vegetarians. A Bangladeshi family living off rice, beans, vegetables and fruit may live on an acre of land or less, while the average American, who consumes around 270 pounds of meat a year, needs 20 times that.
Nearly 30% of the available ice-free surface area of the planet is now used by livestock, or for growing food for those animals. One billion people go hungry every day, but livestock now consumes the majority of the world's crops. A Cornell University study in 1997 found that around 13m hectares of land in the US were used to grow vegetables, rice, fruit, potatoes and beans, but 302m were used for livestock. The problem is that farm animals are inefficient converters of food to flesh. Broiler chickens are the best, needing around 3.4kg to produce 1kg of flesh, but pigs need 8.4kg for that kilo.
Other academics have calculated that if the grain fed to animals in western countries were consumed directly by people instead of animals, we could feed at least twice as many people – and possibly far more – as we do now.
To make matters worse, our hunger to eat animals has led to overstocking of fragile lands and massive soil erosion and desertification. Overgrazing, from the downlands of southern England to the uplands of Ethiopia and mountains of Nepal, causes great loss of fertility, as well as flooding.
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http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...et-environment
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Originally posted by Worm
Let's not.
Supporting animal rights in no way means you think animal life is just as important as human life. There is a difference between thinking an animal's life has value and thinking an animal life has the same value as a human life.
There is literally no sustainable argument you could make for why an animal life would EVER be as valuable as a human life. Think about what exactly it is that you think gives that animal's life value and I guarantee you'll find that quality to be possessed in spades more by a human life.
Free will, intelligence, imagination, morality, overall potential, self awareness. It bears no comparison.
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The post right above you covered this for me.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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It's logically inconsistent to defend eating meat and not defend beastiality.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by Thisisit
It's logically inconsistent to defend eating meat and not defend beastiality.
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What. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Thisisit
It's logically inconsistent to defend eating meat and not defend beastiality.
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How though? We don't eat humans but sleep with them...so why would eating animals have to equate to sleeping with them? I'm legit just curious as to what you mean by this statement
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Thisisit
It's logically inconsistent to defend eating meat and not defend beastiality.
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Eating meat is beastiality? You clearly don't know about the EU norms about animal breeding and killing.
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