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Chart Listings: Hot 100 Formula revealed.
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Mark Ronson, Bruno Mars Top Hot 100 With 'Uptown Funk!' - January 07, 2015
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"Funk!," the 1,041st Hot 100 No. 1 of all-time, reaches the top with the majority (65 percent) of its chart activity from sales
it rebounds 2-1 for a second week atop Digital Songs with 382,000 downloads sold (down 12 percent)
"Funk!" pushes 4-2 on Streaming Songs with a 14 percent surge to 10 million U.S. streams. On Radio Songs, it rises 10-9 with an 11 percent increase to 76 million in all-format audience.
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382,000 downloads divided by 10 = 38,200 points
10 million streams divided by 750 = 13,333 points
76 million audience divided by 10,000 = 7,600 points
Total points: 59,133 points
65% of those points are from sales.
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Erh. I'll never understand what's the point of you guys trying to predict a chart that's literally gonna be released a few days later.
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Originally posted by Raava
Erh. I'll never understand what's the point of you guys trying to predict a chart that's literally gonna be released a few days later.
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This isn't about predicting, though. It's just simply telling the formula they use to put together the H100.
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Sounds legit.
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Originally posted by Dragonfury
Now girls you know what to do!
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where's that gif from?
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Seems about right.
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Tbh I use this formula for few months (I used software to find this)
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BB should change streaming formula. Good moment for change compontent weights and tracking-week period is the first Global Street Date day.
According to brand news (RIAA and PROs reports) revenue from YouTube is 3-4 times less than on-demand royalties.
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Streaming is weighted way too much
1 sale should be ~150 on-demand streams/~500 Youtube views
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Originally posted by slobro
Streaming is weighted way too much
1 sale should be ~150 on-demand streams/~500 Youtube views
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That gives streams even more weight though.
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Well, I was very close if that's the formula. I remember, I used this one but didn't work good for me at all..
My formula is 1k Sales = 940k Audience = 75k Streams
But yeah, it could be about the rounded numbers because they use more exact numbers of course. 1k Sales = 1M Airplay = 75k Streams seems accurate
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Originally posted by iHype.
That gives streams even more weight though.
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Oh sorry I didn't mean 150 divided by 500
I meant 1 sale = ~150 on-demand streams = ~500 Youtube views
150 on-demand streams is about the same revenue as 1 single sale right? And on-demand streams are apparently 3-4x more profitable than Youtube views..
75 Youtube views weighting as much as one sale is kinda messy
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My only issue with this formula is the week "See You Again" entered Top 10
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The premiere likewise helps propel the song, which claims the Hot 100's top Digital Gainer award and flies 42-1 on Digital Songs (168,000, up 488 percent).
While the majority of the Hot 100 chart points for "Again" are from sales (72 percent), the track also grows in streaming, debuting on Streaming Songs at No. 26 with 4.1 million (up 259 percent), good for the Hot 100's top Streaming Gainer nod, in addition to its sales honor; its clicks should climb further following the Monday (April 6) premiere of its official video (which features numerous scenes of late star Paul Walker from the Furious franchise). "Again" bubbles under Radio Songs with a 68 percent gain to 8.6 million. It also debuts on the Rhythmic Songs airplay chart at No. 35.
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And with this formula it gives you 72.66435986%. but yeah, it could be about the rounded thing and finally be 72.4% or something
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Originally posted by slobro
Oh sorry I didn't mean 150 divided by 500
I meant 1 sale = ~150 on-demand streams = ~500 Youtube views
150 on-demand streams = same revenue as 1 single sale right?
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You're still giving it more weight now, nn.
Example:
Something being streamed 750,000 times on Spotify under the current formula = 1,000 sales.
Something being streamed 750,000 times on Spotify divided by 150 = 5,000 sales.
Your formula would give a song 5x more power with Streaming.
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Originally posted by iHype.
You're still giving it more weight now, nn.
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Something being streamed 750,000 times on Spotify under the current formula = 1,000 sales.
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Wouldn't this be 10,000?
1 download = 75 streams = 10,000 airplay.
=750,000/75 going by this
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Originally posted by Dragonfury
Now girls you know what to do!
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Originally posted by iHype.
The formula is right here. You can easily try it yourself.
Ofcourse the #'s they give aren't EXACT (like 24 million streams was given but the real # they divided could've been 24,472,382) so that's what is causing that % to be 0.07 past what is able to be rounded down to 8.
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That makes sense.
This is actually really cool, great work iHype
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Originally posted by slobro
Wouldn't this be 10,000?
1 download = 75 streams = 10,000 airplay.
=750,000/75 going by this
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Streams (divide by 750)
750,000 divided by 750 = 1,000.
Sorry for the confusion tho. Lemme edit once the server stops being ******.
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To determine the biggest song objectively, streams should have a lot of weight. Is what it is.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Streams count too much. It should be 1 download = 500 streams.
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if anything they're not counted enough.
Streaming is the best way to measure what people are listening to. You may buy a song and listen to it twice in a week. Meanwhile thirty two and a half people may listen to a song twice in a week. Those thirty two people are being equaled to only one for the same impact of a song...
It makes sense to value streaming WAY more.
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Originally posted by iHype.
This isn't about predicting, though. It's just simply telling the formula they use to put together the H100.
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Thanks! Just add in that AI needs to be multiplied by around 0.77 for the HRS total. The five HRS totals given compared to their totals in AI ranged from 75% to 78.7%, which I came up with an average of 77.2. HRS has been around 77% or AI in the past when I compared the airplay numbers, so it's a pretty safe number to go with. AI * 0.77 = HRS.
Also, I think physical singles are divided by 5, but those totals are so low anyway the last time they changed the outcome at #1 was in 2011 with "Born This Way," when it sold 24,000 copies in its sixth and final week at #1. And yes, many of us agree On-Demand Streaming should weigh heavier than You-Tube streaming, but Billboard hasn't acknowledged our complaints yet.
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