lol lol yeah he probably would.. thank god though that most gay people arn't like you. i no someone who's gay and acts completely normal none of the "queen" ******** some of you be on. i'm pretty sure he doesn't give a **** if you approve or not to be honest. at long as he's not trying to suck my dick it's cool. i don't look at him as a *** either one of the boys lol. its annoying the way you keep beating this homophone nonsense. if someone wants to hate gays then i think they have all the right to do so
he would still go to hell. But imma keep it cute and
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And yes Johnny, I wrote that. And no, I didn't aim it toward NE and Chi intentionally. I actually watched that Tyra Banks episode about "Gay Exorcism" and I couldn't help but shake my head at it.
And back to this post, your ignorant. Either you are, being an asshole, just to get me riled up or you don't know anything about life.
I don't know anyone in their right mind who would seriously say this person would go to Hell because of that minor, but major, detail. Unless you had 100% proof to back up your point, most average people would say no.
And I doubt any of you have proof. Look beyond the fact it's two guys or two woman, holy balls. It's just love, not hate, looooove. Since when is a heart to heart relationship considered a sin?
For the sake of this argument, I'm going to assume there is a God.
The fact is, we don't know what God's requirements to get into Heaven and be sent to Hell are. What we have is The Bible, which is Man's interpretation of God's ways, and according to that, no matter how good of a person he is, he will go to Hell. Unfair? Yes. But can you change it? No. If he commits to a relationship with a man, he is going against The Bible, therefore cementing a place in Hell for him. It doesn't matter if he is the "perfect man" as you so described. There is nothing you can do to try and manipulate the situation.
Did I not answer the question, you ask? I apologize. My answer is that, I don't know. Only the individual themselves and God know their own fate.
Who are you trying to convince yourself you ask? Like I said, Yourself. I think you are personally afraid because you do believe in God, but aren't 100% assured of your salvation. But that's just my perception.
That's why you constantly feel the need to challenge Christians beliefs and include your sexuality in nearly every post you make, which doesn't make sense to me. Alot of people on ATRL are gay so there is no need for you to act like it's something unusual that you need to let everyone know.
And I guess you misinterpreted the part about God not taking "just good people" to heaven.
Let me explain. Just going to church on the Sabbath, reading the bible and preaching to others means nothing if it doesn't come from the heart and if you don't have a relationship with God. God is asking for a relationship, not just good deeds.
lol lol yeah he probably would.. thank god though that most gay people arn't like you. i no someone who's gay and acts completely normal none of the "queen" ******** some of you be on. i'm pretty sure he doesn't give a **** if you approve or not to be honest. at long as he's not trying to suck my dick it's cool. i don't look at him as a *** either one of the boys lol. its annoying the way you keep beating this homophone nonsense. if someone wants to hate gays then i think they have all the right to do so
boom bye bye..
So, I'm really ****ing disgusted by your post, and not just because your grammar and writing style are horrendous. How uncool of you to post such a vile video, even if you did attempt to cover it up with a collapse tag. What would compel you to post a song that gives such a graphic depiction of violence and promotes such hatred? I'm sure you'll assume I'm just an outraged "queen" but the contents of that song would be completely offensive and disgusting regardless of whether they were directed towards gays, or towards anyone else. A really poor choice on your part.
For the sake of this argument, I'm going to assume there is a God.
The fact is, we don't know what God's requirements to get into Heaven and be sent to Hell are. What we have is The Bible, which is Man's interpretation of God's ways, and according to that, no matter how good of a person he is, he will go to Hell. Unfair? Yes. But can you change it? No. If he commits to a relationship with a man, he is going against The Bible, therefore cementing a place in Hell for him. It doesn't matter if he is the "perfect man" as you so described. There is nothing you can do to try and manipulate the situation.
Ugh, I'm really sick and annoyed now of Religion. This is why I choose not to ever read the ignorant bible. Never read it, nor will I ever.
All I know, based from what I grew up on, believing is the God I believe in is a higher power than any other living or non-living thing in our universe.
You guys make YOUR God seem like an ignorant fool and asshole. I'll post a video in a second that shows that. What is the point of life then? Like honestly? If your God has the same viewpoints has when the context the bible was written in and he's been watching down on us all through all our generations and how we improved, or not so improved, our society, how can someone "not" change their beliefs?
Anyone who has a heart and has compassion or feelings would understand where this story comes from. No one on this Earth would throw a person in Hell because of that minor detail with a life like that. Your God though? If you believe that, then your describing a God with NO heart and NO compassion for his living creatures.
My point is though, what is the point of live if we all are stuck in the past? God had a plan, that was to reproduce and advance, which we both did, but we took it too far. We are overpopulated and we advanced way to far with technology, hence the war's were in, upgrading our weapons, etc.
I do know that God gave us a heart. A brain. Why do you think we go to school? To learn. To use oru knowledge to base an opinion, but at the same time he gave us the ability to change an opinion, with a technique called debating (like this). Otherwise we would have been senseless robots with the same opinion, etc.
People do change. I just don't get some of you guys who take everything written in context so seriously. None of you can form your own opinion. Your opinion IS the bible. Not YOURS. What do YOU have to say about homosexuality? If YOU heard this story in REAL life and the bible was NOT existant, would you be proud of this man and what he's accomplished?
But because a bible has so much power over you, you guys can't seem to form your own opinion. I, on the other hand, use my brain and my one thing you Christians seem to lack, A HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone, especially God, who has a heart would feel compassion for this guy. He got married under God's name and lived a perfect life. God WILL NOT send this guy to Hell. Keep dreaming. How do I know this?
I just said it. It's called having a heart. If you guys have a heart, you would agree. But I guess you guys have a bible in place of your heart (which I have heard from some ex-Christian video before) and I agree. You guys don't have a heart there, you have a bible instead. Where is the love?
And the video I promised. This is YOUR God, a God with no heart.
So if a straight guy, who lived the same life, touched with God, made a relationship with him, would be "okayed" into Heaven because he's straight?
But a gay guy, who lived the same life, can't?
I just updated my Facebook status about not understanding life anymore and how Christians keep insisting we are all going to Hell and like a true Christian she is, my aunt told me I'm a good person, God made me gay and I will be going to Heaven. Awww <3
You guys need to find a heart and place it inside your chest and remove that bible. You will learn a LOT about life. Believe me, you will. I know a lot more about life than any of you. And I'm still learning.
I learned also to stick up for what you believe in. You can get really far in life if you do. Otherwise we are all slave puppets under strings with no purpose at all. I'm a good person, with a heart. God made me gay and I pray to God a lot. Whatever my fate is, God will be proud of who I am and that I'm gay.
I shouldn't say I'll be going anywhere, but we will all go to Heaven if you have a heart. I won't go to Hell for being gay. And my proof is? My heart! Listen to your heart. Look into your heart. There it is, the answer to our life. Love is love. Underneath our skin, we all have the same skeleton. The difference between man and woman is the organs in us. But we both have a heart. A heart meant to reach out to love, not hate, nor ignorance.
I will be going to Heaven. God made me gay and he made me proud. I will be who I am. I'll see some of you in Heaven!
Calm down. No need to have a breakdown. Clearly you're upset and concerned about your fate, so you obviously wrote that whole story. You aren't positive that you are going to heaven, otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to constantly justify that being gay is OK. And you have yet to answer my question once again, because you know Im stating facts.
But the bottom line is, Kevin, you're talking out of your ass. And the fact that you are neglecting the Bible AKA God's Word just makes most of what you just said completely pointless. God is God and their is only one God. He is a fair and just God and He's not some tyrant as your making him out to seem. He loves us. I think you are trying to conform God into the type of God YOU want him to be, which you know won't save you in the end anyways, so you need to take a step into reality. God gave us the Bible so that we are not decieved by false teachings and we have the power to know the truth, which you are trying so hard to get around. The Bible is a fact. You can't just wake up one day and say "Hey, the bible says this, but I'm going to disagree with it and do my own thing, just because I don't like it."
And once again, you are missing the point. Good deeds or just being a good person is not going to take you to heaven. Being gay is not a sin. Pursuing it is. The bible clearly states that no man shall have a sexual relationship with another man.
If you continue to base God off of your own wants and desires, you will go to hell.
God never made ANYONE gay. People are gay because of sin.
You can continue to be delusional about the truth and conform God to the way you want him to be, but that's not going to take you to heaven.
Your an idiot. Grow up. You close minded freaks are so ****ing ignorant it gets me ****ing riled up.
How do you know God didn't make gay people? How do you know we didn't choose this way?
I denied being gay until I was 19. I tried being straight. I tried looking at girls like you do. I tried being in a relationship with one. But I was attracteed to guys physically and mentally. It doesn't work like that.
Grow some balls cause you don't got any. I don't care if I get a warning for this post, but you close minded freaks are pissing me off. Have you ever been gay? How do you know what gay people go through? If being gay is such a choice, like omg you think so, why do gay people committ suicide for being gay? Why are they depressed because they can't change? Have you ever talked to a gay guy who didn't want to be gay?
And stop calling me those ****ing names. I know a lot more about life than you. Your whole opinion is based from the bible only. Stop saying I have no sense of intelligance abou this topic and that I want it to happen.
So **** off. I listen to my heart. I talk to God. I still pray to God wishing I wasn't gay sometimes. God makes people gay. If it was that easy, I would be straight. Stop bringing people down, is this what your God wants? To bring people down, cause you are bringing me down. I dont' want to be gay.
Thanks to you, I might just end up being alone my whole life just because I'm scared of being who I am.
I'm 23. Your how old? 12? 13? I'm an adult, your barely a teenager yet. Like I will seriously listen to some pathetic kiddy boy who thinks he is all that. I know a lot of adults like me who have the same sense of mortaility and can give reasons to why being gay is ok.
You guys can't. Instead you quote the ****ing bible. I'm done. **** you NE. **** you homophobic bitch. I hope you close minded freaks learn your lesson later in life. I'm a nice kind person but you get me so ****ing riled up.
Ok, hold up,You were the one who decided to open this thread for discussion, so don't get mad at people for expressing their beliefs and opinions. If you were really certain that you were going to heaven, than you wouldn't be going off on me trying to convince me of it.
You just said God made you gay and he's proud of it, and that you're proud of it yourself, so why would you pray to God to make you straight? Now you're just tripping over your own feet and contradicting yourself.
I'm not close-minded. You are close-minded for shooting my opinon down and not taking it into consideration, when I took yours into consideration, but have a different opinion on it.
Do I think you know more about life than I do? No. But maybe I'm wrong. That's just not what I'm getting by your attitude.
You call yourself an adult because you are 23, yet you are online behaving erraticly because people don't agree with you? That doesn't sound like much of an adult to me. You said you won't listen to me because I'm some "pathetic kiddy boy", yet you once again contradicted yourself and said that you may live your life afraid of who you are, which means you listened to me and just proves my point that you truly are uncertain about your salvation.
I respect your beliefs, but don't get angry at others just because they don't agree.
I don't think your 13 NE. You have to be lying about that age. No 13 year old can write all that. I just read the full post you posted.
And let me clarify some great facts for you. The bible has been re-published many times, and re-edited. Wanna argue on that? It's true.
Second of all, the bible has been translated back then into English. English wasn't a common language back then, right? Or am I mistaken about that? Wasn't English founded years later?
Third of all, people can interpret the bible or anything for that matter differently. Haven't you, for instance, read some instructions or read a manual and took it differently from someone else? Right? Why are there so many different relgions based from ONE God like you insist? Because it's how we intrepret. So why does YOUR intrepretation make it any better than the others? Hmmm....
Forth of all, no one, NO ONE , not even the Church knows the truth about Religion. If I went back in time and edited the bible saying, do not worship Britney Spears or you'll go to Hell, you guys would honestly believe that? It's crazy how a book through so many generations has so much power over you guys. Over your heart. Over your sense of from right and wrong.
And I'm not making any of this up. I don't get where you are going with that. Honestly? I'm not trying to make up another God. I'm not saying your God isn't real either. I'm just saying, if what the bible says is true and is supposed to be taking literally in OUR context of time, then that God is just a cold hearted bastard with tons of ignorance? That's a fact.
Why so much hate on love? Are you guys afraid of gay people? Why does it bother you so much. Are we going to ruin your miserable lifes as it already is? Isn't over 50% of the population divorced? That's a fact based on research, not a bible. Thanks very much so.
Why would anyone care who we fall in love with. We aren't spreading hate. We aren't spreading violence. We just want to fall in love with another person, like you, and be happy. I don't understand, based on your facts, on how that is soooooo wrong. Why? Because the bible states so?
What if the bible was a test of human knowledge? What if God wanted this to happen. This debate. Maybe he wanted people to figure out what life really is about. Does my word really have so much more meaning or power over what you have to say? No. It's an opinion.
Maybe life is a test. Figure out life. And without the bible, we would be lost right? I figured out life and that's all I need to know to know where I'll be. I don't hate people, I don't hold grudges, I forgive, I sin just like everyone else and lastly I stick up for what I believe in.
Because believe it or not, people have formed thier opinion from the bible. Some believe it, some don't. Some agree with parts of it, some believe all of it. That was obviously God's intention. The real problem is, how are you going to live your life and take it? It's your life.