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Discussion: Should Math be a Requirement?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Ah here in South Africa we have 2 kinds of maths when you get to grade 10 and you have to choose 1
maths proper if you want to study something that needs maths eg actuarial Science, accounting Science physics
Maths literacy if you don't need maths to study in uni E.g law, hospitality, history, art. It will make you proficient in maths but not focus on it.
There is also AP maths if you want to kill yourself. This one is optional
So maths has to be done but it doesn't have to be at the same level
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Member Since: 10/15/2011
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Math is for muggles, us truly gifted can just use magics.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The math they teach is so unecessary. When will I use most of this? 
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Eternium
Do Australians say "maths?"  I had never heard it before ATRL. That and things like "6 millions" or "3 millions."
Do you know how few people get careers in music? Be grateful those math classes will keep you from flipping burgers and answering phones. No major is safe when it comes to finding a job and job security so all gen eds should be continued for as long as possible. You'll be glad you had it to fall back on. |
Please I would never involve myself in a career that requires math skills 
I'm still waiting for someone to point out an example of needing to know how to find the area of a square in a real life situation
All that stuff is useless unless you're pursuing a career that involves it
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Yes, math is extremely important. The most important subject, imo.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Anvarie
Please I would never involve myself in a career that requires math skills
I'm still waiting for someone to point out an example of needing to know how to find the area of a square in a real life situation
All that stuff is useless unless you're pursuing a career that involves it |
When you are at home and you need to calculate how much paint you might need. Maths is everywhere. Stop being daft because we use it all the time.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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After adding, dividing, and subtracting no.
Wtf I need to know a=90 for
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Eternium
Do Australians say "maths?" I had never heard it before ATRL. That and things like "6 millions" or "3 millions." |
Haha you realise only North Americans say "math" everyone else says maths.
6 millions, 3 millions is just wrong. No native English speaking people say that.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Rihbeyga
When you are at home and you need to calculate how much paint you might need. Maths is everywhere. Stop being daft because we use it all the time.
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Umm no that's what the Internet/asking the paint experts at Home Depot is for (  )
And who says I'll be painting anything myself
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ATRL Senior Member
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What you don't realize is that math is central to all practical careers in some way, and a basic understanding of mathematical concepts is what will separate you from the guy or gal who gets the promotion. I mean, that's not as relevant a concept if you're looking into the arts, but the arts are notorious for the difficulty of finding and sustaining good, paying work, even if you're amazing at your particular art form and even if you work hard. Your fallback jobs will be those that then take some math and other gen ed knowledge to move up, get promoted, make more money.
Plus, it's just useful for optimization. Say you're redecorating your home, right? You want to get the best use out of the limited space you have or you're doing some DIY remodeling. Math concepts are required for effective execution. And that's just one example.
Here's just some articles I found real quick that you might find interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_3510398.html
http://www.mathguide.com/issues/whymath.html
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by vamp
No. management/accounting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>computer science>>>>>>>>>>>> math
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All of those require math tho 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Eternium
Do Australians say "maths?" I had never heard it before ATRL. That and things like "6 millions" or "3 millions." |
Brits say 'maths' too, and considering it is the colloquial version of mathematic s I'd say we're right.
No one says 6 millions though that's just incorrect English.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I think everyone should be able to achieve basic math up to say Algebra 2.
Calculus, trig, and other really difficult levels should only be offered based on what your career will be in.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Yes it should be a requirement till Calculus 2. Anything beyond Calculus 2 should only apply to your major. If you major in engineering or anything that requires a lot of math, then math should definitely be major requirement beyond cal 2
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Anvarie
Umm no that's what the Internet/asking the paint experts at Home Depot is for ( )
And who says I'll be painting anything myself
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How will you know what to ask on the Internet when you don't know the size of the room? I think maths also helps you to think. Something you seem lazy to do
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Arioso
What you don't realize is that math is central to all practical careers in some way, and a basic understanding of mathematical concepts is what will separate you from the guy or gal who gets the promotion. I mean, that's not as relevant a concept if you're looking into the arts, but the arts are notorious for the difficulty of finding and sustaining good, paying work, even if you're amazing at your particular art form and even if you work hard. Your fallback jobs will be those that then take some math and other gen ed knowledge to move up, get promoted, make more money.
Plus, it's just useful for optimization. Say you're redecorating your home, right? You want to get the best use out of the limited space you have or you're doing some DIY remodeling. Math concepts are required for effective execution. And that's just one example.
Here's just some articles I found real quick that you might find interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_3510398.html
http://www.mathguide.com/issues/whymath.html |
There's the /endthread/ post.
The world is math. It is a living, breathing concept that applies to so many disciplines and fields. Even in the arts and humanities, it is important. If you guys haven't heard of it, look up The Golden Ratio and how it applies directly to the aesthetics of the world (including the attractiveness of the human body). I use math in my graphic design work too. Measurements and layout in art are directly associated with numbers.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by Arioso
What you don't realize is that math is central to all practical careers in some way, and a basic understanding of mathematical concepts is what will separate you from the guy or gal who gets the promotion. I mean, that's not as relevant a concept if you're looking into the arts, but the arts are notorious for the difficulty of finding and sustaining good, paying work, even if you're amazing at your particular art form and even if you work hard. Your fallback jobs will be those that then take some math and other gen ed knowledge to move up, get promoted, make more money.
Plus, it's just useful for optimization. Say you're redecorating your home, right? You want to get the best use out of the limited space you have or you're doing some DIY remodeling. Math concepts are required for effective execution. And that's just one example.
Here's just some articles I found real quick that you might find interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_3510398.html
http://www.mathguide.com/issues/whymath.html |
/endthread
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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This is also pretty interesting: http://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=1125361
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
Brits say 'maths' too, considering it is the colloquial version of mathematics I'd say we're right.
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Please don't make this into one of those ridiculous US English vs UK English discussions. Nobody's wrong, nobody's right, now we're all equally unhappy, yay.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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It wastes time and resources, and everyone forgets the extra **** eventually cuz they NEVER USE THEM
And miss me with "But you may want to become a mathematician when you grow up!"
Henny, I'm not sure what I want but it DEFINITELY ain't THAT
This is no different than making something like advanced law required, and backing it up with "But you may want to become a lawyer one day! Trust us we're doing you a favor xoxo"
Ugh, old people.
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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This thread.
Are y'all 14 or somethin?
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