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Celeb News: 168M streams = $12,359 royalties; Wake Me Up singer fumes
Member Since: 10/22/2010
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Originally posted by ianBK4
Taylor has no power to destroy something as Global as Spotify.
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40m subscribers is 'global'? The service wasn't even in existence in the US 4 years ago. Taylor has sold more three fold more records than Spotify has subscribers. Don't overestimate it.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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This is why I buy my music. It is really unfair how these people are getting paid on streaming services. Do you expect them to want to continue to make music when they are being robbed?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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All he did was write a song...I think $4,000 is more than enough for that song, no shade.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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I never understood how artists make money from free streams, so I'm not surprised at the growing industry backlash.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
All he did was write a song...I think $4,000 is more than enough for that song, no shade.
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So the biggest song of the year is worth 4k in profit?
What century do you live in where 4,000 is an amount that sounds correct for a #1 song?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 23,412
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Originally posted by Pristine
40m subscribers is 'global'? The service wasn't even in existence in the US 4 years ago. Taylor has sold more three fold more records than Spotify has subscribers. Don't overestimate it.
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Spotify is based in Europe, what gon Taylor do? 
If it was Rihanna, Avicii or Calvin Harris that would make sense, but not Taylor Swift.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 7,793
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Originally posted by ianBK4
Taylor has no power to destroy something as Global as Spotify.
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Of course she can. She has $200 million in the bank. She could easily set up a rival to Spotify and kill it within 6 months. Spotify is losing money constantly. In order to break even it needs the major mainstream artists to stay with it. No Taylor Swift, no Beyonce, no Black Keys, no Garth Brooks, no U2. What is stopping these artists joining up together and creating their own rival to Spotify that pays artists better royalty rates? Nothing. If artists can get better deals elsewhere then they will go there.
Spotify needs to change or it could die quickly. Taylor, Savan Kotecha and now Aloe Blacc have all spoken out against the low rates given by Spotify, in the last week alone.
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Member Since: 10/12/2002
Posts: 21,317
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Originally posted by White
So the biggest song of the year is worth 4k in profit?
What century do you live in where 4,000 is an amount that sounds correct for a #1 song?
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First of all, the 4,000 was from Pandora exclusively, that doesn't count YouTube, Spotify or any of the on-demand streaming services. Pandora is an internet radio that is primarily free.
Also, that doesn't include iTunes, terrestrial radio play or any other royalties.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Time to move yo asses and go buy CDs at your local store! Possibly PRISM.
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Member Since: 8/1/2008
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Streaming is almost literally the equivalent of making illegal downloads legal.
I still love it though
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 10/8/2011
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Originally posted by aboynamedginger
Don't forget to purchase, "Me. I am Mariah...The Elusive Chanteuse"....Mama gotta put her kids through College.
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don't know why but i screamed 
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Member Since: 12/21/2009
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People need to stop acting like taylor swift can change an industry :agh:
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Lose My Breath
This is Pandora, not spotify
It's a radio service, not on demand streaming, there is a large difference
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Tell em.
EDIT: I always buy albums and singles and i think music should be supported in that way. but lets not act like spottily is something bad and "needs to be destroyed!!!!!".
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Spotify aint going anywhere, if anything, this is just FREE PUBLICITY to check on their site. More people=more streams!
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
All he did was write a song...I think $4,000 is more than enough for that song, no shade.
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"All he did was write a song" are you ****ing kidding me?  And you're a music fan on a music forum with THAT disgusting dismissive attitude towards musicians and songwriters? Songwriting is a craft and a profession and can take years and years of hard work and sacrifice, people deserve to be paid for what they do
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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This is standard. Artists get paid dust too for digital and physical.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
"All he did was write a song" are you ****ing kidding me? And you're a music fan on a music forum with THAT disgusting dismissive attitude towards musicians and songwriters? Songwriting is a craft and a profession and can take years and years of hard work and sacrifice, people deserve to be paid for what they do |
This is just Pandora - he maybe has earned 40k from all internet radios and maybe 60k from all other radio stations in the world,
That's about 100k for one song he has earned alone by radio. I don't know your earnings but I could live with 100k 3 - 4 years others probably a whole life.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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This reminds me of Metallica rebelling against Napster 
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Member Since: 4/8/2012
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I've never liked this "stream" idea.
We paid half price of an album for a month, and we can listen EVERYTHING?
It's totally make no sense.
But streaming music is a trend now, no one could change it, even Taylor.
I understand why she leaves, I applaud for her courage but I don't think its a good step.
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Member Since: 11/20/2011
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Originally posted by revel8
Of course she can. She has $200 million in the bank. She could easily set up a rival to Spotify and kill it within 6 months. Spotify is losing money constantly. In order to break even it needs the major mainstream artists to stay with it. No Taylor Swift, no Beyonce, no Black Keys, no Garth Brooks, no U2. What is stopping these artists joining up together and creating their own rival to Spotify that pays artists better royalty rates? Nothing. If artists can get better deals elsewhere then they will go there.
Spotify needs to change or it could die quickly. Taylor, Savan Kotecha and now Aloe Blacc have all spoken out against the low rates given by Spotify, in the last week alone.
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No, she couldn't kill Spotify in a matter of months. If Spotify is losing money with their business model, what makes you think a rival service would be anymore profitable, if it's paying out higher royalties? There's not going to be some mass subscriber exodus from the premiere streaming sites to Swift's imaginary service, just because she's Taylor Swift. Spotify has had rivals for years, and yet it still stands.
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