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Discussion: Is Beyonce at Madonna/MJ level?
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No, nobody is (yet).
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her tour #'s says she's global too hehe
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Wouldn't it be like this? - Elvis Presley and The Beatles
- Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elton John
- Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion
- Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Queen, Rolling Stones
- Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Rihanna
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Originally posted by J a y
Wouldn't it be like this? - Elvis Presley and The Beatles
- Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elton John
- Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion
- Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Queen, Rolling Stones
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Madonna is NOT on MJ's level though, in impact or influence, hes on the beatles/Elvis level
And Beyonce is not near either so...
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Originally posted by J a y
Wouldn't it be like this? - Elvis Presley and The Beatles
- Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elton John
- Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion
- Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Queen, Rolling Stones
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I mean, I guess. Michael is far far bigger than Madonna though. I don't get why people constantly group them. If anything, I'd move him up to the top tier and keep Madonna with Elton.
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
Madonna is NOT on MJ's level though, in impact or influence, hes on the beatles/Elvis level
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Not yet. Madonna isn't even at MJ's level. But BEYONCÉ is the artist that everyone in the industry admires. Like if you say something bad about her then people look at you like you're in the wrong. As far as peaks go I don't think? But she's gonna be the most respected artist since Michael & WHITNEY (Madonna?)
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It's always interesting to see people try to downplay Madonna's impact.
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Not really. I honestly thinks that Beyonce created her on way and lane.
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Originally posted by Swim
It's always interesting to see people try to downplay Madonna's impact.
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Nobody is downplaying it. Madonna is the biggest pop female undeniably but she's not on MJ level. No disrespect or shade to her at all really, nobody is.
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Originally posted by J a y
Wouldn't it be like this? - Elvis Presley and The Beatles
- Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elton John
- Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion
- Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Queen, Rolling Stones
- Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Rihanna
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Move Michael up one, & give whitney his spot. & aretha & james brown have to be somewhere.
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Originally posted by BrooklynBoy
Not yet. Madonna isn't even at MJ's level. But BEYONCÉ is the artist that everyone in the industry admires. Like if you say something bad about her then people look at you like you're in the wrong. As far as peaks go I don't think? But she's gonna be the most respected artist since Michael & WHITNEY (Madonna?)
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This whole thing screams a little delusion. Considering there's many respected artists. Acting like Beyonce has more respect then Nirvana, Tupac, and I can even throw in Adele. Beyonce is a great artist. But no way in hell is she the most respected since MJ, Whitney and Madonna. Lower your stanning a few notches.
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Originally posted by Swim
It's always interesting to see people try to downplay Madonna's impact.
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Madonna's impact is MASSIVE, but MJ's is in another league
The Beatles/Elvis/Michael are their own lever EVERY artist has been influenced by ALL three male or female, Madonna isn't there yet.
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
Madonna is NOT on MJ's level though, in impact or influence, hes on the beatles/Elvis level
And Beyonce is not near either so...
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Originally posted by FAME.
I mean, I guess. Michael is far far bigger than Madonna though. I don't get why people constantly group them. If anything, I'd move him up to the top tier and keep Madonna with Elton.
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LOL - Michael Jackson is not on the same artistic level as Madonna. Both Madonna and Michael Jackson are the epitome of branding a name, an image. But they couldn’t be further apart in the artistic realm.
Madonna’s body of work is a reflection of her creativity, she truly has an artistic soul. Not only has she changed the direction of her musical work in every step she took, but she also took real artistic risks rarely seen in the business.
Madonna, at the peak of her fame and commercial success (with the Blond Ambition) was transitioning into her Erotica Era, That is what’s called a real artistic and creative risk. Madonna has always created different ways of expressing herself while poking the society at the same time.
Michael Jackson re-created similar sound to reproduce the success of his days of Yore. It worked - he achieved much more commercial success. Rock With You, Beat it, Thriller, Billie Jean, Bad, Smooth Criminal, Remember the Time, Black or White, You Rock My World… they are all great, but no one can deny they all sound the same - he doesn't come close to Madonna's artistic merit and impact.
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Originally posted by Swim
It's always interesting to see people try to downplay Madonna's impact.
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Originally posted by FAME.
I mean, I guess. Michael is far far bigger than Madonna though. I don't get why people constantly group them. If anything, I'd move him up to the top tier and keep Madonna with Elton.
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I guess it's only because they're gender ying and yang, but yeah I'd agree to moving Michael up with Beatles and Elvis.
I also missed James Brown, Barbra Streisand and Aretha Franklin.. guess they deserve a tier.
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Madonna - Yes
Michael - No one will ever.
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Originally posted by BrooklynBoy
Move Michael up one, & give whitney his spot. & aretha & james brown have to be somewhere.
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The delusion to think Whitney is on Madonna's level She had a shot back in the 90s but when you put their careers overall side by side? Whitney's last tour before she died sold so poorly, it was embarrassing.
Madonna's ability to get WW hits, good album sales and destroy everyone in touring (the 3 biggest measures of success in the music industry) for so long is unmatched.
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